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Archive 2008 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8

  
 
chris hwang
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p.1 #1 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


I'm not a professional photographer nor a technical lens comparing master. My focus is sometimes off and the positions change slightly, and my lenses might be good/bad copies as they are, this is my first comparison that I did for myself because I was looking into Zeiss lenses and found them at a decent used price and wanted to compare to my Canon EF 50/1.4 and Canon EF 85/1.8

Body used Canon Rebel XTi (ISO 100 on all)
- Faithful Mode, Raw then saved to JPG from DPP with no editing.
- Canon EF 50/1.4
- Canon EF 85/1.8
- Carl Zeiss Planar T* 50/1.4 AE (all black, made in Japan)
- Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85/1.4 AE (all black, made in Germany)

Conclusion:
85mm
- Zeiss seem sharper on the edges (except when my focus is off) than the Canon
- Canon seems sharper on the center than the Zeiss
- Canon has more contrast, while Zeiss shows more shadow detail
- Canon is more prone to CA than the Zeiss
- Bokeh stopped down between 1.8-4 the Zeiss is ugly
- Color rendition, Canon seems SLIGHTLY warmer than Zeiss
50mm (I think my canon 50mm AF is back focusing)
- but even so, the edge sharpness on the Zeiss is very noticeable compared to Canon
- Color rendition, Canon looks VERY warm compared to Zeiss
- again Canon seemed more prone to CA than the Zeiss

I prefer the more cooler look of the Zeiss than the Canon... so I'm going Zeiss Manual over Auto Canon =)

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Zeiss 85 at 1.4 versus Canon 85 at 1.8
Zeiss 85mm 1,4 at 1.4Canon 85mm 1,8 at 1.8

85mm-1.8


Zeiss 85 at 2.0 versus Canon 85 at 2.0
Zeiss 85mm 1,4 at 2.0Canon 85mm 1,8 at 2.0

85mm-2.0


Zeiss 85 at 5.6 versus Canon 85 at 5.6
Zeiss 85mm 1,4 at 5.6Canon 85mm 1,8 at 5.6

85mm 5,6


Zeiss 50 at 1.4 versus Canon 50 at 1.4
overexposed slightly because I was at ISO100 1/4000 shutter, and that's as fast as my XTi goes
Zeiss 50mm1.4 at 1.4Canon 50mm 1.4 at 1.4

50mm-1.4


Zeiss 50 at 1.8 versus Canon 50 at 1.8
Zeiss 50mm 1.4 at 1.8Canon 50mm 1.4 at 1.8

50mm-1.8


Zeiss 50 at 5.6 versus Canon 50 at 5.6
Zeiss 85mm 1,4 at 5.6Canon 85mm 1,8 at 5.6

50mm-5.6


Edited on Feb 15, 2008 at 04:47 AM


Feb 15, 2008 at 04:24 AM
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p.1 #2 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


Chris

Well If nobody else is thanking you for your efforts I will.

http://forum.manualfocus.org/index.php

Sincere thanks on your afternoon of time...That 85/1.8 Canon looks great against the Planar.

Cheers
Guy



Feb 15, 2008 at 05:57 PM
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p.1 #3 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


Nice made comparison, thanks for the effort. I am a little bit surprised to see that CA on the 50mm shots, but what I noticed is that the Zeiss lenses tend to show a little bit of it in the OOF areas. Also, you may want to try tests with a subject that is somehow flat on wide apertures, to make sure that edge and corners are in focus - a problem with the fast mid telephoto lenses.

Regards, Stefan



Feb 16, 2008 at 04:10 AM
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p.1 #4 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


Excellent post! Thanks for the comparison. I've been using a CZ 85 1.4 recently, and I totally agree with your findings. It's sometimes tough to do a straight A/B comparison, as my focus isn't always spot on. But I find something intangibly "better" about my photos with the CZ 85 1.4. I can't quite put my finger on it.


Feb 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM
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p.1 #5 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


Thanks for the comparison, especially to see the characteristics of the CZ 85/1.4 compared in real life to a Canon 85/1.8.


Feb 16, 2008 at 01:55 PM
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p.1 #6 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


Thank you

after looking at you pictures I would take the Canon 85 over the ZP any day
the 50mm ZP does look a lot better than the Canon

thanks again



Feb 16, 2008 at 03:44 PM
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p.1 #7 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


The zeiss does show a bit more contrast in the small details, like the dirt for example. In comparison the canon looks a bit smudgy. But you cant argue with the canon for the price.


Feb 17, 2008 at 01:23 AM
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p.1 #8 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


the canon 85mm are both great lenses, my 1.8 was even a bit sharper than the EF1.2 stopped down. the contax was sharper than both of them stopped down, not that it mattered in any way. I replaced my cz 85 with a contax zoom

What makes you say that the bokeh of the zeiss looks ugly, the OOF blobs?



Feb 17, 2008 at 03:26 AM
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p.1 #9 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


Before jumping on to final conclusions (and buy or sell lenses), don't forget that these tests, although very nicely done, do only show the central portion of the glass. All edges and corners are cut out and that is where 80% of the differences between lenses come to play.



Edited on Feb 17, 2008 at 09:43 PM



Feb 17, 2008 at 09:42 PM
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p.1 #10 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


Well done. Thank you.


Feb 18, 2008 at 07:43 AM
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p.1 #11 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


Great Thanks for real life test!


Feb 18, 2008 at 08:26 AM
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p.1 #12 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


Great Thanks for real life test!


Feb 18, 2008 at 08:48 AM
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p.1 #13 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


Andi Dietrich wrote:
the canon 85mm are both great lenses, my 1.8 was even a bit sharper than the EF1.2 stopped down. the contax was sharper than both of them stopped down, not that it mattered in any way. I replaced my cz 85 with a contax zoom

What makes you say that the bokeh of the zeiss looks ugly, the OOF blobs?


between F1.8 to F4 or so the blades of my AEG (germany) have the shape of a "ninja star", wide open it has beautiful BOKEH, but as you can see from my image the OOF lights are shaped not round but like a circular pointed star.



Feb 18, 2008 at 12:11 PM
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p.1 #14 · Zeiss Planar T* AE 50/1.4 & 85/1.4 vs. Canon 50/1.4 & 85/1.8


Chris thanks for the taking the time, you may have just saved me a lot of money .


Feb 19, 2008 at 10:35 PM





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