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400d Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #1 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount This sounds crazy, I know. I have 70-200mm 2.8 IS and 135mm f2, I shoot special events like wedding, sweet 16, and on location portraits. Now, after 7 months of having a 135mm f2 I found it was close to useless to me. Of course it blows the 135mm on 70-200mm away, but without IS it's really sitting in the bag as another 860g weight in my bag which I don't use at all! So right now, I want to buy a body, 1D or 30D, and I need cash. I afraid 135mm f2's day is coming..I read about the Nikon/Canon FD/Pentax or whatever to Canon EF mount, some have optics to allow infinity focus and some don't. Since if I ever use a 135mm f2, it would be for portraits (I believe portraits won't be farther than 20m), I believe focusing at infinity is not a concern. I look up Nikon's 85mm f1.4 and 135mm f2, they are mind-blowing low priced. What do you guys think if I sell the Canon 135mm f2 and get a Nikon manual AI-S 85mm f1.4 and/or 135 f2? As far as I know, those adapters which don't have optics, would not suffer any light and IQ loss, am I right? I may still have cash left after getting these two manual lenses and the adapter. Oct 10, 2006 at 05:28 PM

cogitech Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #2 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount Most of the other mounts don't need optics to allow infinity focus when adapted to EOS, including: Contax/Yashica Nikon F Olympus OM Pentax K M42 Lieca R ... more that I can't remember So, if the adapter is made right, these will acheive infinity without optics. The adapters that use optics to get infinity (like for FD mount lenses) usually suck. So, not only will you get bargain prices on those older manual lenses, you'll also get infinity focus without any extra (crappy) optics. The Contax Zeiss 85mm f1.4 and Contax Zeiss 135 f2.8 are both fine lenses and you should be able to find them for a good price. The 85 will be more expensive, but well worth it. BTW, this is not crazy at all. Look at my lens lineup. I am about to add an Olympus OM mount, and two Pentax M42 mount lenses to that list. Head on over to the Alternative forum (here at FM) if you get beat up here in the Canon forum (forgive them, they don't know any better). Edited by cogitech on Oct 10, 2006 at 01:04 PM GMT Oct 10, 2006 at 06:00 PM

FretNoMore Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #3 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount Sure, if you can live without AF. Personally I find that is only tolerable on wide angles. Oct 10, 2006 at 06:02 PM

Thatspeck Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #4 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount You need good eyes to focus (or a center prism screen) but I'm having great luck with older AI-s lenses on the 1D, 20D, and 10D. Buy the cheapo $15 adapter on Ebay which works great for most smaller lenses. Oct 10, 2006 at 06:24 PM

400d Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #5 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount Yes, I know, I have thought about the focus issue. I started off with a bunch of FD cameras (AE-1P, Ftb-n, T70, T90...etc.) so I was doing just fine with split screen. It's another concern for me to struggle for 30D/1D, 1D has the split screen for like $45 and all ready to go, while 30D has the resolution..But, back on the track, as I realize I rarely use the 135mm f2, I figure, hell, the AF won't save my day anyway, as long as I stay away from sports field (and I talked to a full time sport shooter once, he's about to sell his 135mm f2 since he feel that the 70-200mm takes care of it and 135mm's speed isn't all that amazing). Umm, so my plan should be getting the 1D first-BYE BYE to EF 135mm f2(I know the resolution is low, but the vertical grip on 30D is killing me, so horribly designed that the body slips when I have the 70-200mm and 580ex on it..maybe I just have a small hand), then I will go for the Nikon AI-S 135mm f2 and sooner or later be melted with the 85mm f1.4. This one claims the mount is made by brass, are all of the adapter made by brass? I kinda worry about the cheapo adapter screw up the mount on the body: Brass Oct 10, 2006 at 06:36 PM

Tentacle Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #6 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount Speaking as a Materials Science & Engineering graduation student, I'd say brass is fine. It has a lower hardness than steel, so if there is any wear, it'd be the the adapter ring that's wearing out, instead of the lens mount or the Nikkor lens fitting. Given the prices of those passive adapter rings, I'd say that's no big deal. Even so... How fast does the EF mount wear with normal EF lens use? Except for the el-cheapo lenses, all lenses have a steel fitting, and the mount is steel too. The wear can not be worse than it would be with using EF lenses, even if you'd use a much more wear-resistant steel adaptor. Oct 10, 2006 at 06:50 PM

400d Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #7 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount Thx Tent for the tech point of view~ I was wondering if all the cheapos on ebay are made of brass.. Anyway, anther thought about the EF 135mm is, at f2, it has nasty CA, BUT, you can only see it around strong white edges. I think it's crazy to sell the 135mm, since it's like the fantasy of everyone, people has praised so much about the lens, kinda makes me feel an idiot if I sell it And as a matter of fact, I would love to stick FD glasses, I love them, very well made and solid..too bad I can't use them without the adapter with optics..And lol, I have been using C for quite a while (loyalty, anyone? heh I know it's silly), now I am thinking of getting a N lens, it's like I am cheating! Oct 10, 2006 at 07:12 PM

Tentacle Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #8 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount Brass is a lot easier to machine than steel, and it's easier on the tooling too, so making the adapter rings from brass is cheaper. With that in mind (and the fact that the bill of materials itself will be quite small) I'd guess that all the cheap adapters are brass. Oct 10, 2006 at 07:40 PM

jjlphoto Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #9 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount I believe the only adapter available that is not brass is the FotoHuppert one. Theirs is some sort of aircraft aluminum I believe. The Bob Shell one is naked brass, but with the rest being chrome plated, that certainly helps keep things gliding smoothly. Using these lenses are great if you are doing speciality work like landscape or architecture, but for people shooters, remember that you will be viewing through a lens that is now stopped down and dark. Also, if you will be using fully automated flash functions, that will not tie in as well anymore either. Oct 11, 2006 at 03:29 PM

bigreen505 Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #10 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount Getting back to your original question, IMO the Nikon 135 is no where near as good as the Canon 135/2. The Nikon 85/1.4 is a very good lens, but nothing great. The Nikon 85/1.4 AF-D is a great lens by any standard. Take a look at the lens tests on www.16-9.net. Oct 11, 2006 at 04:24 PM

Qwerty64 Offline Upload & Sell: On p.1 #11 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount A Nikon 'hall of fame' lens is the Nikon 105mm f2.5 AIS, I've been using it for a while and it's just stunning. Super sharp edge to edge and great contrast. So good that I sold my Canon 85mm f1.8 AF. I use the 105mm all the time and manual lenses for everything from architecture to people, kids, pets, etc. without any major issues. Couple of examples from my 105mm on a 20D body, including a 100% crop which has no extra sharpening. Oct 11, 2006 at 05:03 PM

CFWhitman Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #12 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount Just a note about the Pentax K mount to EOS adapter. There is, I believe, a mirror clearance issue with EF mount bodies, but EF-S mount bodies work fine. There are ways to get around the clearance issue, but they involve modification to the lens (or perhaps the body, but I can't confirm that a body modification fix is possible). You probably don't care since you don't seem to be considering any Pentax lenses, but since this adapter was mentioned I thought I'd add that point about it. Oct 11, 2006 at 07:55 PM

cogitech Offline Dedicated FM Upload & Sell: On p.1 #13 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount jjlphoto wrote: I believe the only adapter available that is not brass is the FotoHuppert one. Theirs is some sort of aircraft aluminum I believe. The Bob Shell one is naked brass, but with the rest being chrome plated, that certainly helps keep things gliding smoothly. Using these lenses are great if you are doing speciality work like landscape or architecture, but for people shooters, remember that you will be viewing through a lens that is now stopped down and dark. Also, if you will be using fully automated flash functions, that will not tie in as well anymore either. For stationary people, as in traditional studio portrait work, the photographer would easily have time to manually focus wide open and then stop down for the shot. I've been using this technique for all kinds of stationary subjects (including people) with great success. As far as flash goes, I shoot bounced flash in Av mode anyway, so the only flash issues I've encountered with manual lenses (so far) have been the typical EC tweaks that are necessary with all stopped-down metering on a Canon body. Shooting RAW allows so much exposure latitude that it is easy to get it "close enough." Oct 11, 2006 at 09:42 PM

Lance Lee Offline Upload & Sell: Off p.1 #14 · Nikon or Whatever to Canon mount As someone else mentioned, the cheap $15 ebay Nikon AI to Canon EOS work very nicely. I'm not completely sure I have infinity focus, but I can focus on buildings 1.5 blocks away, so that is good enough for me. I wouldn't have tried the adapter, but I already have Nikon AI lenses, and I really love my 50/1.2, and the 75-150/3.5 is such a pleasant surpise, as good if not better wide open than my Tamron 28-75/2.8. Oct 12, 2006 at 11:50 AM

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