p.2 #1 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
Hi Jeremy,
I did come to the same idea 4 weeks ago and since i own a EOS 5D and a EF-S 60-2.8 i only have to buy a EF 12II extensiontube, so i did.
Everything fits on my 5D and there is no vignetting like with your EOS 1n.
There is just a "small" problem, the electronics in the 5D isn't capable to regonize the lens/extensiontube/camera combo. Just a few times everything workes fine but most of the time the camera gives errors and isn't capable to give/set the right f-stop (like there is no lens connected to the camera).
I didn't figure out a workaround yet and i am a bit afraid that all these excercises will damage my camera so for this moment i stopped experiencing.
p.2 #2 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
Canonfan wrote:
Can you get Agfa Ultra 100 in Australia? I think you'll find it's got just as much punch as Kodak UC with MUCH MUCH less grain.
I don't think there ever was an Agfa Ultra 100. Just Ultra 50 and Optima 100/200/400. Ultra was discontinued in 97 or so. I still have a freezer full of it at home
p.2 #3 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
Hornbill - This 'behaviour' is something I NOT ONCE experienced with my film body. Perhaps the 5D is EF-S aware and trys to lock it out of use. The 1N is way before the EF-S generation. Just a thought.
Perhaps the tube has a problem with the electrical contacts.
p.2 #4 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
Hi Jeremy,
I must admit that i didn't test the EF12mkII with my other lenses so it is possible that something is wrong with the extensiontube. I am going to test it with my other lenses and the only film body (EOS 3) i have.
Testing will take some time because i am at work now and i will have to wait till tonight (for you till tomorrow morning) or till the weekend.
p.2 #6 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
Thanks captainatomic,
I understand it now. I have the 60mm and its amazing so im really glad i can still use this macro beauty on my film camera and in the future on larger framed bodies.
p.2 #7 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
You could also cut the mirror. Guy Mancuso can tell you how to do that. A dremel and some guts is all you need. You would not lose infinity, but warranty. Also have a look www.camerahacker.com if you are interested.
p.2 #8 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
Hi Dick,
Interesting! Personnaly i wouldn't cripple my camera for this but i am wondering if the camera will recognize the lens in the right way. It would be a pity if one cuts the mirror and after doing so the lens showed incompatibility issues with the EOS 5D.
This because i met some problems with the combination EOS 5D / EF 12mkII / EFS 60-2.8.
p.2 #10 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
stanj wrote:
I don't think there ever was an Agfa Ultra 100. Just Ultra 50 and Optima 100/200/400. Ultra was discontinued in 97 or so. I still have a freezer full of it at home
Looks like you're right about Ultra being no more, but they definitley did make a 100. I have it in my order history on the BH website and I have the negatives in a drawer next to me. A shame, it was a fine film. Well, there's always Fuji Reala.
Richard
p.2 #11 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
Hello Jeremy,
A very interesting thread indeed. I do not have the 60mm EF_S macro but I have the 10-22 EF_S with my 20D. I also have the 12,20,and 36 Kenko tubes. (I use them with my 50mm and the 70-200 f4 and they are superb.) Now to get to the nittygritty. I am a retired tool and die guy, so I measured the Kenko tubes and the inside diameters are 34.7mm. The 10-22mm won't marry with the Kenko tubes because the diameter of the rear projection is 40mm. And it is so close to the contacts. If anyone has access to a lathe they can take off 3mm from the Kenko tubes and still have a 1mm of metal between the edge of cut and the contacts. This should let the Kenko tubes marry to the EF_S mount OK. Of course I do not have the 60mm Macro so there is no point for me to do so for the 10-22mm. I must be getting cabin fever, Oh well Spring is not too far away. Thank you Jeremy for an interesting idea.
Jim.
p.2 #12 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
PlaneGuy wrote:
Intersting. Thanks for the post.
The other interesting thing is that the image circle ofthe lenses has never been specified, and all the boards assume that EF-S is reduced image circle. The whitepaper that Canon recently put on mentions that the 17-55 covers the full 35mm image circle. Now that is an interesting development if it means that EF-S may not be just intended for the 1.6x cameras.
Imaging a FF with a pellicle mirror - hence no mirror box to interfere with the EF-S (is that how they work, I have never seen one or even a schematic). The mind boggles
Some believe the white paper has a typo which makes it look as though the 17-55 covers full frame, but in fact does not.
p.2 #13 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
Jimbob - sounds like it not worth the effort. If I could have used a Kenko tube I would, but i got a bargain on a EF12 tube (thanks Pete!), and it is the only one that claims EF-S Support.
You can always send me your 10-22 for testing
What I dont understand is why someone would want to use the 10-22? You loose focus from about a rulers length away, so its pretty much useless.
I will give the 10-22 a go over the weekend, that is if my camera store will let me use the lens!
But .... I have another idea!
If the 10-22 can be used on a full frame, just with lost infinity from the extension tube - then all you need to do is find someone capable of removoing the EF-S mount and replacing it with an EF mount.
FstopJojo ( I think thats his name ) has a small guide on his Pbase account with details and pictures on how to do this. I dont have the lnik handy at the moment.
Anyway chances are the UWA lens wont cover much of the full frame at all!
p.2 #14 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
Hi all there!!
Yesterday evening i did some testing.
EOS 3 (film camera)
- 100% compatible with EF12 mkII and EF 60-2.8 macro.
- no vignetting
- shutterspeed and diafragm selectable and values visible in viewfinder
- AF works, all 45 focussing points are usable/selectable
EOS 5D
- usable but not 100% compatible with EF12 mkII and EF 60-2.8 macro
- no vignetting
- shutterspeed and diafragm selectable but not allways visible in playback mode, esp. diafragm value "00"
- (flash)exposure is correct
- autofocus not possible (to me for macro not a issue)
- focussing between about a few cm's from object to about 30 cm
- magnification , (i think over 1:1 lets say 1:1.2)
I have to do some more testing but i think the results are razorsharp!
p.2 #18 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
Just a thought here, but taping the pins on the x-tube might help "un-confuse" the camera, if indeed there is a programed "lock-out" on the newer bodies...
Interesting topic; I hope more people contribute to these kinds of solutions.
p.2 #20 · EF-S Macro on a EOS 1N! Works like a dream
OK here are some results from this morning (I didn't have too much time as the family want to go out!). The first two demonstrate the closest & furthest focussing range.
, (i think over 1:1 lets say 1:1.2)