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Archive 2006 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

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p.1 #1 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

I think the title says it all for itself. I've come into information suggesting the following. Whether Canon will choose to release them all during Photokina remains unknown. However, the following is what I've found out so far.

30D: Digic 3, 10mpx

3D: Digic 3, looks similar to 5D on the outside, FF, priced between 5D and 1DS RS

1DS RS: Pellicle system, reminiscent of the 1N RS. 5fps on the full 18mpx, 8fps (on a crop maybe?), 18mpx, not built as well as the 1DS Mk2, Digic 3, priced somewhere in the $6,000+ range.

10-22 mk2: Better build, to eliminate some wobbliness.

40/1.4 or 1.2

17-40L to be discontinued

Italicized parts = not 100% solid, but pretty darn close.

Here is a link to the film-equivalent of the upcoming 1DS RS. Go figure.

What is interesting about this piece of news is that if true, Canon has now a complete set of FF cameras, from 5D, to 3D and 1DS RS. This mimics their film series of EOS-5, EOS-3 and EOS-1 series. VERY VERY interesting. This could tempt a significant segment of film shooters to move to (more) affordable FF. The decision to retain a 30D/350XT pro-/consumer series will also bring in most of the moolah for Canon.

And before you start flaming me, my source has actually handled the 1DS RS himself. Just thought I'd share it with the larger community. Let me emphasize however, that this is not a prediction on whether Canon will be releasing them in this final form. I'm simply passing on some tidbits of information, nothing more. If it coincides with their eventual release, all the better.

I'll be editing this if I get more information. It's not too nice to keep trying to fish for NDA-protected info from your friend and put him at risk.

Edited by data1ore on Feb 14, 2006 at 07:46 PM GMT

Edited by data1ore on Feb 14, 2006 at 07:48 PM GMT

Edited by data1ore on Feb 14, 2006 at 09:34 PM GMT

Edited by data1ore on Feb 15, 2006 at 05:39 PM GMT (Reason: new info)

Edited by data1ore on Feb 18, 2006 at 06:11 PM GMT (Reason: new info on 17-40)

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:06 AM

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Feb 15, 2006 at 02:09 AM

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p.1 #3 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

Isn't Photokina in Fall?

Will there still be a 35D?

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:11 AM

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p.1 #4 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

If canon already showed us that they can make a normal shutter that shoots at 10fps with the 1v-HS, why would they use one that causes a 3 stop light loss?

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:12 AM

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p.1 #5 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

Can you please share what you have been smoking?

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:13 AM

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p.1 #6 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

MPerdomo wrote:
Can you please share what you have been smoking?

yeah, and where i can get some?

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:14 AM

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p.1 #7 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

JPorter wrote:
If canon already showed us that they can make a normal shutter that shoots at 10fps with the 1v-HS, why would they use one that causes a 3 stop light loss?

BTW, do you go to UMBC too? The name is familiar

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:15 AM

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p.1 #8 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

Well all I can say is that my friend has evaluated the 1DS RS for Canon, and that's what he told me. I don't do drugs

, especially not when it concerns photography.

Edited by data1ore on Feb 14, 2006 at 06:16 PM GMT

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:15 AM

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p.1 #9 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

MPerdomo wrote:
JPorter wrote:
If canon already showed us that they can make a normal shutter that shoots at 10fps with the 1v-HS, why would they use one that causes a 3 stop light loss?

BTW, do you go to UMBC too? The name is familiar

Yes I do, im in harbor right now actually.

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:15 AM

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p.1 #10 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

MPerdomo wrote:
JPorter wrote:
MPerdomo wrote:
JPorter wrote:
If canon already showed us that they can make a normal shutter that shoots at 10fps with the 1v-HS, why would they use one that causes a 3 stop light loss?

BTW, do you go to UMBC too? The name is familiar

Yes I do, im in harbor right now actually.

Hey Justin!

Hey Mike!! haha jk.

I'm Jeff. What's up Mark?

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:17 AM

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p.1 #11 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

3 stops of light!! That would kill the deal for most sports shooters right there! Canon's previous pellicle mirrors only lost like 1/3 to 2/3 of a stop of light I believe. 3 stops is pretty crazy.

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:24 AM

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p.1 #12 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

Wow, this thread disentegarted REEALLLY fast! Anyways,Yeah, I'm just wondering if this 'friend' works for Canon and how he got past all of the waivers that you have to sign to not talk about this sort of thing....

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:26 AM

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p.1 #13 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

The new camera system uses a new shutter system, that stops down to achieve the 10fps. The 1v HS was released almost 7 years AFTER the 1n RS. Please get your facts right. :-)

If I may add, the FF cameras weren't really meant for sports were they? I presume Canon would still retain the 1D series. Who knows what they'll do there? At least now FF users can have the option of catching 10fps in good light. Couple that with high iso performance...you can imagine :-)

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:27 AM

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p.1 #14 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

dirb9 wrote:
Wow, this thread disentegarted REEALLLY fast! Anyways,Yeah, I'm just wondering if this 'friend' works for Canon and how he got past all of the waivers that you have to sign to not talk about this sort of thing....

I really didn't appreciate the actions of the early posters. This thread isn't a joke, please don't treat it like one. I have nothing to gain to try to dissuade or lie to people.

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:31 AM

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p.1 #15 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

ROTFLMAO!

Your source was handling something I guess.

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:32 AM

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p.1 #16 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

Why is there no full frame Rebel?

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:33 AM

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p.1 #17 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

Why 10fps with three stops of light loss? the 1DMKII could do 8fps already, why not use that motor on the FF camera, is it worth it 2 extra fps?

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:46 AM

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p.1 #18 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

Honestly, I don't know. Perhaps Canon feels their pellicle technology has matured substantially since its film days, and it's ready for prime time. There's a lot more to fps than just the motor, I doubt you can just transplant it without significant re-engineering and achieve 8fps on a FF vs a 1.3x.

It's more of a good-to-have? I'd focus more on the elimination of viewfinder blackout when taking photos in the future. The new shutter system should be interesting too.

Feb 15, 2006 at 02:54 AM

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p.1 #19 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

I'm not totally disbelieving the 1ds rs. There is one place where pellicle is appreciated: golf.

Feb 15, 2006 at 03:02 AM

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p.1 #20 · 30D, 3D, 1DS RS

SKPhoton wrote:
3 stops of light!! That would kill the deal for most sports shooters right there! Canon's previous pellicle mirrors only lost like 1/3 to 2/3 of a stop of light I believe. 3 stops is pretty crazy.

I agree there - even a 50/50 mirror only gives up a stop each way (50% light split). Interesting stuff, rumor or not. I know that they're working on some new stuff, but I have no idea what it is. Maybe this. Maybe not.

Feb 15, 2006 at 03:08 AM

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