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p.2 #1 · 50mm: Canon Zeiss Nikon Oly - is there really any difference?

You guys owe it to yourself to see a roll of chrome shot with the new Leica M 50 1.4 asph. I have never seen chrome look that good.
Unfortunatly it wasn't my lens :-(

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Feb 02, 2006 at 04:56 AM

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p.2 #2 · 50mm: Canon Zeiss Nikon Oly - is there really any difference?

Robert

It might have been my testing - The Oly adapter I had was not very good, I now have a cameraquest OM:EOS and need to reshoot the test this year when I get sunlight again......

I got severely mauled by some quarters as I tested over several weekends at about the same time of day - I also cannot recall if the Macro had a B&W UV filter on it or not - oops! which may explain the strange colour cast compared to the other images.......the links if any one stil interested were as follows

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I also I don't have the luxury of being able to buy multiple copies of lenses (not meant as a dig at any one ;-)) ), but used these tests to sort out my best lens for my purposes.

Mike Smith

Feb 02, 2006 at 09:11 AM

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p.2 #3 · 50mm: Canon Zeiss Nikon Oly - is there really any difference?

Brambling, yout tests look interesting. .Im not sure if you did shot during same conditions. Because I see some shadows at some pictures, not at all pix. Zeiss pictures look completely flat, with high sharpness, no shadows. I liked best Zuiko lenses in color rendition, tonality. Why shots look so awkward with Canon Macro? It is just too much difference for me. The canon lense had everything except colors. Where are those? It was very interesting to look at your tests anyway. It would be nice to get a look at test shoots with typical primes as canon, nikon, leica and compare results with other.

Feb 02, 2006 at 04:39 PM

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p.2 #4 · 50mm: Canon Zeiss Nikon Oly - is there really any difference?

Its surprising how good the macro looks at infinity. That is the Canon 50mm f/2.5 ? I wonder how an unshifted 45 TSE compares with the Zeiss 50's or the Macro 50 at f/5.6? Anyone have both?

PS: Now Im thinking about my Pentax 6x7 lenses - I think I have a 45mm, too! Ive neen trying to find a straight P67>EOS adapter used to try it.

Paul

Feb 02, 2006 at 05:00 PM

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p.2 #5 · 50mm: Canon Zeiss Nikon Oly - is there really any difference?

CZ's are optimized for f/5.6 and the MTF for some look best at f/4 - thanks mbroomf! I didnt know THAT!

Is the CZ f/1.7 sharper than the f/1.4 ?

Paul

Feb 02, 2006 at 05:51 PM

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p.2 #6 · 50mm: Canon Zeiss Nikon Oly - is there really any difference?

Paul; the 1.7 stopped down is not IRL sharper than the 1.4 stopped down. I can't possibly think you'd see a difference between the two. From my vague recollection I remember the 1.7 was sharper wide open than the 1.4 was, wide open. I mostly used my 1.4 at f2 or f2.8 with great results (and gorgeous bokeh) but the 1.7 I can't recall as I didn't put it to much use except for a wedding shoot wide open where it was great.
Both are splendid but as said, the 1.4 focused closer and that was what made me choose it over the 1.7.

Feb 02, 2006 at 10:08 PM

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p.2 #7 · 50mm: Canon Zeiss Nikon Oly - is there really any difference?

Getting back to the Leica "ahhhhhh" vs. the Zeiss "wow," I want the wow ...the contrast and crisp detail. Im posting a Buy/Sell ad for another adapter and a CZ 50mm f/1.7 Also, I have shot tests with my wides - the cheap adapter that came with my CZ 28mm doesnt allow focus on infinity (glad I found out that on the ground!!!). It focuses at about 15-20 ft.

My want ad:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/edit/message/2989272

Feb 10, 2006 at 01:08 AM

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p.2 #8 · 50mm: Canon Zeiss Nikon Oly - is there really any difference?

pchaplo wrote:
One thing about doing aerials is you need a more high contrast and saturation in your lenses because the light looks more flat coming from above.

Guy, that is so true & why, with film, I used to shoot alot of Velvia -
Paul

Hi Paul- My chance to maybe repay you

For increaseng contrast and saturation, and especially for dealing with haze, there is nothing like working in LAB, IMHO.

If you haven't done so already, check out Dan Margulis' book "the Canyon
Conundrum." If you have any particular questions, I'll try to answer them

Bill

Feb 23, 2006 at 04:38 AM

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p.2 #9 · 50mm: Canon Zeiss Nikon Oly - is there really any difference?

Bill,

...nice have a repay instead of payback

Margulis is one of my hero's -- I love it when he said that he could color correct on a black & white monitor just as well as a calibrated one

He really knows his color and prepress! I learned to craft a curve by looking at his examples, but Im not familiar with that Canyondrum

book. I photograph canyons, too!

Maybe I can find a used one?

Paul

Feb 23, 2006 at 04:47 AM

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p.2 #10 · 50mm: Canon Zeiss Nikon Oly - is there really any difference?

pchaplo wrote:
Bill,

...nice have a repay instead of payback

...
Maybe I can find a used one?

maybe- it's now 6 mos. old- if not it's worht the price.

If you can't find one I could try to summarize the relevant parts for you- but it'll have to wait as I am under the weather (pinched nerve in neck (OUCH!!) and now I have a f$U%&%$# cold!)

Bill

Feb 23, 2006 at 05:28 AM

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p.2 #11 · 50mm: Canon Zeiss Nikon Oly - is there really any difference?

pinched nerve in neck (OUCH!!)

You need to stop being sick! Pinched nerves are no fun.

I will email you. Thanks!

-Paul

Feb 23, 2006 at 05:39 AM

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