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Archive 2005 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


Just got my newest lens, a Minolta 70-200/2.8 Apo G (D) SSM and I'm surprised at how BIG it is. This is my first "white" lens and I'm excited to get out to the zoo and try it out. Unfortunately, I'm working a lot of overtime during the New Year's Eve/Day holiday to pay for the new glass.

I have a few observations that I'd like to share:

1. It has a really cool little sliding window in the bottom of the lens hood that opens to allow a finger tip to rotate a polarizing filter without having to first remove the hood or stick a finger way into the very deep petals of the attached hood. Do all lenses of this size (Canon, Nikon, Sigma, etc) have a feature like this? I haven't heard of it or seen it mentioned in any other online material that I've read.

2. It has two tripod attachments - a standard 1/4-inch and a 3/8-inch threaded hole on the tripod collar. I was wondering how I was going to attach a monopod, but now I think I might not bother with a Arca QR plate as the idea of screwing on and off the monopod doesn't seem so bad at this point. My Fiesol MP has a reversible attachment screw and I can use the 3/8 side for the best strength. I just thought the two threaded holes was a cool feature.

3. The SSM focusing is indeed very fast. I can't compare it to the USM of a Canon lens, but I've heard it's not as fast as the Canon AF. It is way faster than my old 70-210 f4, vintage mid-80's. This new lens is a replacement for that lens, sold to a friend.

4. Did I mention that it's heavy? Every time I drop another one or two thousand dollars on a piece of glass I end up getting bigger arms. It's hand-holdable, but single-handing the camera for quick shots is out of the question. I used to be able to single-hand the 70-210 while holding an off-camera flash in the other hand for some close-ups of frogs, flowers, etc. No more.

I don't know how you Canon/Nikon guys do it - the specs on this lens say it's slightly lighter than comparable lenses from those other guys, although I think the KM 7D is a little bit heavier than all but the biggest DSLRs from C or N, especially with the vertical grip and two batteries.

5. The close focus distance is about 47 inches and it's nice to be able to shoot things at my feet while looking through the viewfinder. With the 1.4x TC (also new) it seems to be a pretty good "critter" lens.

6. I like the alternate Full-Time DMF option. At any time while the AF system is working, you can simply twist the focus ring slightly and the AF releases control to manual. The usual release-and-depress of the shutter release puts the lens back into the selected AF mode.

Like I said, I'm working a lot of hours for the next week, then I go on vacation. Hopefully I will soon have some examples of what my new baby can do. So far I have given it some very cursory tests around the house and I can say there is NO aberration and it's quite sharp, although I have yet to realize the full potential as I've just been testing is lower light than I would like and the dogs are a pretty tired subject at this point.

In case you're wondering, it was $1800 at B&H. They have been "out of stock" for weeks and weeks (the same goes for every online retailer I could find), so when they got a new shipment of these lenses I was quick to snap one up. Minolta gear is still more expensive than that of other manufacturers, but that's what you get when you want fantastic ergonomics.

Edited by PDBreske on Jan 03, 2006 at 06:46 PM GMT (Reason: I've added some samples to page 2)



Dec 31, 2005 at 09:35 PM
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p.1 #2 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


I will as soon as I get some nice ones to share. I plan on using the heck out of the lens during my upcoming vacation. I'll be visiting Ocala, FL (Horse Capitol of the World) and hopefully I'll get some good horse pictures. I don't think there will be any racing this time of year, but I really don't know much about it, so who knows. If there are any races scheduled, I'll try to be there.

I don't like riding horses all that much, but I sure do like taking their pictures.



Jan 01, 2006 at 10:00 PM
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p.1 #3 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


robbie20D wrote:
Nice lens, are you going to post some photos?


Oh, wait. Did you want to see pictures of the lens?



Jan 01, 2006 at 10:01 PM
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p.1 #4 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


[jealous]

Bastard!

[/jealous]

Have fun with it!



/still jealous...



Jan 02, 2006 at 03:11 AM
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senna4ever wrote:
[jealous]

Bastard!

[/jealous]

Have fun with it!

/still jealous...


Heheeee. You wouldn't be as jealous if you knew how much overtime I'm working to pay for it! Ouch!



Jan 02, 2006 at 05:55 AM
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p.1 #6 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


Hehehe...I know what you mean....I paid a pretty penny for my Tamron, too.


Jan 02, 2006 at 06:18 AM
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p.1 #7 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


robbie20D wrote:
Why not both, a pic of the beast and some images taken with it. I would be interested in seeing what it looks like mounted on the 7D.


Ah, therein lies the problem. I have but one digital camera now and that's the 7D. I just gave my brother the Oly C5050Z for a Xmas gift (I got tired of him sending me low quality P&S images and asking me to "fix" them. ).

Maybe a mirror shot will work. I'll work on it.



Jan 02, 2006 at 04:50 PM
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p.1 #8 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


Well, I couldn't get a decent picture of the lens mounted on the camera, but I did manage to get this shot of tonight's moon just before it went below the horizon here in Miami. Hazy night, so the details aren't up to the lens' performance. I just wanted to post something!

This is a 100 percent crop. Handheld (anti-shake on), 1/250 sec, f4, 280mm, ISO 400. (Wide open with the 1.4x TC.)



Jan 02, 2006 at 08:09 PM
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p.1 #9 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


PDBreske, I saw your self-portrait in the other forum.... Has anyone ever told you that you look like Willem Defoe?


Jan 02, 2006 at 10:28 PM
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senna4ever wrote:
PDBreske, I saw your self-portrait in the other forum.... Has anyone ever told you that you look like Willem Defoe?


Actually, yes. I have heard that. I've also heard that I look like one of the Darrens from Bewitched, Gomez from The Adams Family, and a young, clean Keith Richards.



Jan 03, 2006 at 01:25 AM
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p.1 #11 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


How nice....I'm always compared to Shrek.....


Jan 03, 2006 at 01:44 AM
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p.1 #12 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


Here's a few examples of things around the neighborhood. I am VERY happy with this lens. The SSM focuses very quickly and accurately, and the three focus-hold buttons on the lens are very convenient.

These are right from ACR, only resized for the web. No additional sharpening after ACR and the resize was with Photoshop's Bicubic (Sharper) option. Other than the usual exposure tweaks in ACR there were no other adjustments in PS.

http://homepage.mac.com/pdbreske/PICT4745w.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/pdbreske/PICT4746w.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/pdbreske/PICT4756w.jpg

I didn't post these for composition critique, just as lens examples. Please don't attack me for the lack of drama.



Jan 03, 2006 at 06:51 PM
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p.1 #13 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


Here's a 100 percent crop of the wing on the left side of the first image.
No sharpening or resizing - straight from ACR.
http://homepage.mac.com/pdbreske/PICT4745crop.jpg



Jan 03, 2006 at 06:59 PM
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p.1 #14 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


How does the lens work on your 9000?


Jan 04, 2006 at 03:54 AM
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p.1 #15 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


senna4ever wrote:
How does the lens work on your 9000?


Hmm, I haven't tried it, but the lens instructions say the AF will not work with anything older than a Maxxum 7. It will obviously manual focus, but then you lose the really nice feature of the SSM AF.

But, I can mount it on the 9000 and snap a few digital pictures of it so you can see the comparable size of the lens. I'll do that today sometime.



Jan 04, 2006 at 06:04 AM
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First let me say it's nice to see such an in-depth review of a minolta product.
I would now like to ask for some advice. Everyone is telling me to sell off my maxxum 5 and switch to cannon or nikon before I buy a digislr. I like the minolta set up, and I don't mind only having new stuff to buy since the used minolta market is small. would you suggest an opinion between the 7d, 5d and waiting for the next one. I max out around 700 - 800 $$. Is the extra bucks worth it for the 7d. Thanks for your input.



Jan 04, 2006 at 03:02 PM
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Micah Levy wrote:
First let me say it's nice to see such an in-depth review of a minolta product.
I would now like to ask for some advice. Everyone is telling me to sell off my maxxum 5 and switch to cannon or nikon before I buy a digislr. I like the minolta set up, and I don't mind only having new stuff to buy since the used minolta market is small. would you suggest an opinion between the 7d, 5d and waiting for the next one. I max out around 700 - 800 $$. Is the extra bucks worth it for the
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If you were a new user and didn't already own a Minolta camera, I would probably recommend a Nikon/Canon. I guess it depends on what you want from the camera and how many lenses you already own that will work with the KM 7D/5D.

In favor of the Nikon/Canon argument, you have a very wide array of lenses to choose from, and probably every top pro shooter uses one of these two systems, so you know neither of them are going to go away anytime soon. Plus, no one can say the image quality from either Nikon or Canon isn't top-notch.

If, on the other hand, you have a half dozen Minolta lenses, you might well want to stick with the KM brand, especially of those lenses are G-series glass and you've invested a lot of money in them. With the 7D/5D all of those lenses will gain the advantages of the Anti-shake in the camera body (something I never turn off unless I'm tripod mounted) and that's a HUGE bonus. I owned two Minolta lenses before I bought the 7D and they were each over twenty years old, but each of them became immediately stabilzed when mounted to the new camera. Pretty cool. I've since replaced one of those two and bought three others, so I'm in it for the long haul. If I ever need to buy a $50 el-cheapo lens, it will still use the AS, as will the $6000 600mm f/4.0 APO G.

There are other, less tangible features that you may consider. I love the ergonomics of the Minolta. I have never liked the control layout (or lack thereof) of the Canon/Nikon camera bodies and the 7D's controls are all well-placed and easy to find without removing my eye from the viewfinder or going into the LCD menus. This, to me, is such an advantage that I can't begin to quantify it. There is no bigger waste of money than a camera you don't use because you're just not comfortable with it or you're intimidated by its operation.

Now, the 7D is currently KM's top DSLR, but I have to believe that another, higher-end model is in the works (although I have nothing to rely on, just a hunch) and when it comes out I'm hoping it will have a ton of professional-strength additions. Something like a 12MP+ sensor, 5FPS+ frame rate, even greater digital controls over the image quality/settings, etc. Of course, I coud be way off and they never release another DLSR, but it won't matter to me for a very long time, because I'm so happy with the 7D that I'm not planning on spending any more money for a new camera for many years. I'm really just hoping for a new camera so the naysayers will eat crow when they read the glowing reviews of a giant-killer from KM.

Is the extra money worth it for the upgrade to the 7D over the 5D? Once again, it depends on what you have in mind. A friend of mine bought the 5D after using my 7D and reading the 5D's reviews. She's very happy with it, even though it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of mine. The pictures are exactly the same, it's just a little more work to get there (not all of the controls are on the outside - there is more menu-diving to set things up). I would buy the 7D again, but I'm big on switches and dials, plus the bigger body of the 7D fits my long fingers better than the smaller 5D. The 7D is also a bit tougher, and I don't plan on babying this thing forever, so the extra strength is nice. (It is nice to keep it looking like new for a while, though.)

I hope this helps a little. I won't be offended if you decide to go Canon or Nikon. Well, not much.



Jan 04, 2006 at 04:29 PM
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robbie20D wrote:
KM will convert a Dynax 9 so that it can use the SSM lens free of charge.


Yes they will. The Dynax/Maxxum 9 is as old as you can go and still use the SSM lenses, but that body does require it be sent to Minolta so they can modify it for the SSM feature.



Jan 04, 2006 at 04:30 PM
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p.1 #19 · Minolta 70-200 2.8 G (samples added)


Here's a few snaps of the lens on my 9000. I haven't yet bought a lens plate for the tripod collar, so it's on an old tripod for these shots.

http://homepage.mac.com/pdbreske/PICT4759w.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/pdbreske/PICT4762w.jpg
This one shows the hood door for spinning a polarizing filter withouth removing the hood:
http://homepage.mac.com/pdbreske/PICT4764w.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/pdbreske/PICT4765w.jpg

Ain't she a beauty?



Jan 04, 2006 at 04:44 PM
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Very nice detail, your lens seems incredibly sharp.


Jan 04, 2006 at 05:47 PM
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