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p.12 #1 · Canon EOS 5D. New camera. Pics.

Guy Mancuso wrote:
My reason for saying the 10-22 is NOT a pro lens is simple this if it won't work on my three bodies than this Pro will not buy it. That makes it a non pro lens

Cheers Guy! This pro shoots 20d and still won't buy EF-S lenses.

Aug 10, 2005 at 06:21 PM

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bellyface wrote:
it's a fake. it's missing the film advance lever...

The opening for the viewfinder is also the same size as the one on the 20D, at least in the picture in the "pdf" - one would expoect it to be larger if it were a real picture of a real FF 5D, wouldn't one

Aug 10, 2005 at 06:23 PM

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The 1D, IMO, is the best 4MP cam ever made, and even when I pick up a new body (1D Mark II, 20D, or possibly one of the "two" new models being talked about), the 1D and I won't be parting.

I was actually just thinking of this today. There was a point in time in the production line where a film EOS body never became obsolete, i think we are aproaching...if we havnt already aproached, the point where the DSLRs will have longevity that you wouldnt expect.

I was pondering how soon i'll be able to afford a 1DmkII (assuming it is replaced someday) and that lead me to thinking of ways to come up with the money. One was to sell the 1D, then i thought:

A.) by then it wouldnt be worth much
B.) Wait...why would i sell it? It works great!

I told myself when i bougth my first DSLR (300D) that i would never sell it...i did, to get the 1D. But i can honestly say i will probably never sell this camera, for when i do reach the point where it almost NEVER gets used, it'll be worth pennies by then...that is my expectation at least.

Aug 10, 2005 at 06:26 PM

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mickr7an wrote:
Horses for courses mate. The quality from an 8mp camera is not good enough for me, that doesn't mean I'm crazy for needing 12mp just because you don't. I'm obviously just fussier than your customers and just about bear an A3 print from my 20D that my friends would ooh and ahhh over. I know photo journalists still happily working with 4mp cameras. Each person has to assess their own needs withouth being subject to the holier than thou attitude from some on this site, you know the ones... "it's about the photography not the equipment", or "I'm still happily using a 2mp P&S and blowing them up to 300 ft square and making millions from it." Give me a break!

It doesn't mean you're crazy at all. But you are no a majority of users or clients, and even so, you have no reason to complain. A higher resolution option exists within the Canon system to suit your and your clients' needs and preferences. A used 1Ds or a new 1Ds Mark II can do what you want today. Similarly, if I needed higher resolution, I could justify it based on my preferences and budget as a hobbyist or my calculation as a businessperson.

Complaining that the high resolution options cost too much, or endlessly speculating about when a FF camera that is under $2500 would be released, is pretty much meaningless. My point is not that the photographer is all that matters, but rather that FF or 12+ MP are not necessary to make a great image capture device. You can do a lot with what already exists in the Canon lineup, and these discussions routinely overlook that fact in the quest for the latest and greatest.

The 1D Mark II, for example, is probably one of the most versatile cameras ever made, and the 20D gives you all of that camera’s imaging qualities at a third of the cost. That’s an extremely compelling set of options below the 1Ds. What could you reasonably cram between those two?

If Canon never releases another camera again, any decent photographer should be able to make great images and earn a good income with cameras from the existing 350D-1Ds Mark II product continuum. If I were a Canon exec, plugging pricing gaps would be the last thing on my mind… I would be more concerned about having feature rich units at the price points I have already laid out.

Arka C.

Aug 10, 2005 at 06:32 PM

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p.12 #5 · Canon EOS 5D. New camera. Pics.

Didn't Minolta roll out a 5D? Why would canon follow suit with a 5D.

Aug 10, 2005 at 06:45 PM

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Digital is still in its infancy. For artists the capability of making finely detailed enlargements is a real need. Sure you can make posters from 8MP but you'll get a much better result with medium format film. The only digital option is an $8,000 camera--digital can compete with medium format now but only at a crazy price. Sure pros who 'need' it will spend the cash, but only a fool would doubt that high resolution full frame digital will be tumbling in price and is sure to become availabile sooner rather than later. Who would doubt that in five years full frame 22 megapixel cameras will be sold for under $2000? Certainly not me. Think what we had five years AGO? Not much.

Aug 10, 2005 at 06:46 PM

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Ahh yes,.
Rumor time!
My favorite time of the year!

Time once again to speculate on all kinds of fantasies to come true,
Time when half the forum puts there current model on the sales forum,
Time when the other half insists that what they have will allways be good enough....

And then we can all fight about it!

Aug 10, 2005 at 07:00 PM

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CyberDyne wrote:
Ahh yes,.
Rumor time!
My favorite time of the year!

Time once again to speculate on all kinds of fantasies to come true,
Time when half the forum puts there current model on the sales forum,
Time when the other half insists that what they have will allways be good enough...

And then we can all fight about it!

I love how sure everyone is with each new rotation

Aug 10, 2005 at 07:06 PM

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p.12 #9 · Canon EOS 5D. New camera. Pics.

Fast Shadow wrote:
The D2X is a fine camera but the 1D2 is just as capable.

And what is the massive gap between the 1D2 and 20D you speak of? Having owned both I don't see it. Image quality is nearly identical. The difference in AF speed is far from "massive". The lack of a spot meter on the 20D is not that big a deal, either.

Price, Price, Price that's the massive gap. One can debate the performance differential endlessly, but the price differential is tangible, obvious and large. $2500US gap is massive in my books, because in Australia that gap is $4500. I like to see a $2500US camera that's all and I can make up specs of a camera that would fill that role nicely and I'd rather have that than a FF 5D at this stage.

Aug 10, 2005 at 11:44 PM

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timmyquest wrote:
13mp and 3fps and 9 AF points

What niche is this supose to fill?

Traveller Landscapes photographer.. act as a backup or 2nd body if u feel too heavy or expensive to squeeze 2 1D series body into one bag...

Aug 11, 2005 at 06:48 AM

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AJSJones wrote:
bellyface wrote:
it's a fake. it's missing the film advance lever...

?

Maybe Canon just want to ensure there is some room between with the 1Ds mk2....& 5D...

Aug 11, 2005 at 06:51 AM

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where do i get a pdf file about 5d

Aug 11, 2005 at 07:55 AM

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ChrisEOS wrote:
where do i get a pdf file about 5d

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http://alex.netfun.ro/Canon5D-specs.pdf

Aug 11, 2005 at 08:14 AM

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Lalfer wrote:
ChrisEOS wrote:
where do i get a pdf file about 5d

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http://alex.netfun.ro/Canon5D-specs.pdf

anything in english?

Aug 11, 2005 at 08:18 AM

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ChrisEOS wrote:
Lalfer wrote:
ChrisEOS wrote:
where do i get a pdf file about 5d

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http://alex.netfun.ro/Canon5D-specs.pdf

anything in english?

nup

Aug 11, 2005 at 08:22 AM

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Shivatron wrote:
cineski wrote:
A 1/200th flash sync

? What?!? Why is it Nikon can go to 1/500th on certain models (including the upcoming D200)?

It's the same reason that the 1D can do 1/500 and the Mark II can't. CMOS sensors cannot be switched on and off and thus require a mechanical shutter to control the exposure. Thus, the sync speed is limited by the fastest speed that the shutter curtains can travel.

On CCD cameras, like the 1D and most Nikons (D1*, D70, but NOT the D2H), the exposure is controlled via electronic CCD timing, although a mechanical shutter is still retained for protection and bulb mode. Thus, even at fast shutter speeds, the whole frame is exposed at once, allowing a much higher sync. (If you use the PC port I'm told you can sync a 1D right up to 1/8000, but of course the flash duration is usually longer than that.)

Alex53 wrote:
with an external flash you can shoot faster than the flash sync (albeit at the expense of some power),and this camera has no built in flash

External flash has absolutely nothing to do with max sync speed. You're thinking of high-speed sync, or as Canon calls it focal-plane flash mode, which pulses the flash many times a second for a longer duration in order to ensure that the whole frame is covered by the flash exposure as the shutter curtains move.

Edited by Shivatron on Aug 09, 2005 at 11:17 AM GMT

Thanks for your detail explaination.

Aug 11, 2005 at 08:53 AM

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http://www.digitalkamera.de/Kameras/Canon-EOS-5D.asp

Aug 11, 2005 at 01:52 PM

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Price, Price, Price that's the massive gap. One can debate the performance differential endlessly, but the price differential is tangible, obvious and large. $2500US gap is massive in my books, because in Australia that gap is $4500. I like to see a $2500US camera that's all and I can make up specs of a camera that would fill that role nicely and I'd rather have that than a FF 5D at this stage.

I don't think Canon considers filling price gaps when they determine their vision for a five-year plan. That's certainly going to come later, when determining final requirements for a particular camera model release, but from what I've seen discussed by their reps, they do their long-range planning with customer types in mind, not price points.

Aug 11, 2005 at 02:18 PM

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mdbassman wrote: http://www.digitalkamera.de/Kameras/Canon-EOS-5D.asp

Is there anything about that page that lends credibility? Like attributable sources? Any discrepancies between it and the Romanian page (the one with Spanish text and English specs)?

Aug 11, 2005 at 02:26 PM

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Mmm...the rumor seems to be true. A Dutch online company already takes orders for it. If you can read Dutch, see below...

10-08-2005 14:50 uur
Canon komt met de nieuwe EOS 5D!
Gerucht wordt waarheid, Canon introduceert een nieuwe spiegelreflex camera de Canon EOS 5D.

Deze camera heeft een 12,8 megapixel fullframe sensor (type CMOS 35,8 x 23,9mm). Het LCD scherm is groter dan dat van de andere modellen, het gaat hier om een 2,5 inch LCD scherm met 230.000 pixels. De Mount is gebouwd voor de EF lenzen, de EF-S lenzen zullen dus niet passen. De camera heeft een USB 2.0 aansluiting en de accu type BP511 is ongewijzigd gebleven. Schrijf u nu vrijblijvend in voor deze camera, prijs en levertijd momenteel nog niet bekend.(inschrijven kan via de button verwacht)

Aug 11, 2005 at 02:27 PM

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