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p.4 #1 · F-18 Jet

I Pm'd you back Dennis.

Great shot.
I'd contact some of the magazines dedicated to planes/jets with it for sure.

Also, if the Canadian Gov. does it, register the image with them as I said.

Then, see if there is a stock house that might want it.

Make some dough !!!!!!!!!!!

Sep 08, 2004 at 03:21 PM

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p.4 #2 · F-18 Jet

sick shot man!

Sep 08, 2004 at 03:57 PM

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p.4 #3 · F-18 Jet

so is it breaking the sound barrier or engaging afterburners or

Sep 08, 2004 at 04:01 PM

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p.4 #4 · F-18 Jet

Dennis,

Congratulations! With all of the discussions about rights and such you should see the other thread in this forum.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/128315

It references this article

http://www.sportsshooter.com/news_story.html?id=1272

Best Wishes!

JD

Sep 08, 2004 at 04:32 PM

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Kurt Jones wrote:
I Pm'd you back Dennis.

Great shot.
I'd contact some of the magazines dedicated to planes/jets with it for sure.

Also, if the Canadian Gov. does it, register the image with them as I said.

Then, see if there is a stock house that might want it.

Make some dough !!!!!!!!!!!

kj

Hello Kurt,

I got the PM and thanks again for you help.

I have contacted the Canadian gov and they are mailing me the forms today, and I will register the image.

I will be getting a list of Magazines to send a sample image to and see what the out come is from them.

As for the Stock house's how do these work out, I'm new to this sort of thing and I want to get as much information on the ins and outs before I start going to them. I rather go in with some knowledge knowing how they work....

Thanks again for your help here

Sep 08, 2004 at 05:23 PM

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tri_fin wrote:
sick shot man!

I don't about sick, but I will take amazing over sick {Grin}

Sep 08, 2004 at 05:24 PM

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tri_fin wrote:
so is it breaking the sound barrier or engaging afterburners or

I did not here the sonic boom at all, and the best guess he was near MACH 1 I don't think they are allowed to go past that at all. Otherwise broken windows etc....

Sep 08, 2004 at 05:27 PM

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zoomfactor wrote:
Dennis,

Congratulations! With all of the discussions about rights and such you should see the other thread in this forum.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/128315

It references this article

http://www.sportsshooter.com/news_story.html?id=1272

Best Wishes!

JD

Well this was a great article to read. I was amazed with some of the lost money in images wow.

Now that has me thinking after reading that article what my image is worth, I really have not thought about a price tag for it. I really don't want to sell myself short after reading that.

So my question is to all of you, what would you think the starting price for this image would be$ As Kurt has said Make Some Dough from it!

The reason is that I'm new to this sort of stuff and I need all the help and advice I can get here, and Kurt Jones has got me on the right path at this time, but hey this is a hobby to me, and if I can pay for some gear the better it is.....

So whats your guess Grin!

Also thanks for the compliments on the image and the articale was a grat assit as well.

Sep 08, 2004 at 05:34 PM

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p.4 #9 · F-18 Jet

FWIW Navy photographer John Gay won a World press award in 2000 for a similar photo which was used all around the world. Here is a link to the photo and comment from John Gay.

http://www.wilk4.com/misc/soundbreak.htm

There is the potential for you to make a decent sum of money from the excellent photo but most likely in ongoing sales and licensing through a large reputable stock photo agency ( rather than the press agencies such as Reuters/Getty/AP which would only pay you a small one time fee and get it published worldwide ) in the US as well as some sales now to magazines. And definitely follow the advice already given and register the copyright in the US/Canada.

Sep 08, 2004 at 08:55 PM

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smudger wrote:
FWIW Navy photographer John Gay won a World press award in 2000 for a similar photo which was used all around the world. Here is a link to the photo and comment from John Gay.

http://www.wilk4.com/misc/soundbreak.htm

There is the potential for you to make a decent sum of money from the excellent photo but most likely in ongoing sales and licensing through a large reputable stock photo agency ( rather than the press agencies such as Reuters/Getty/AP which would only pay you a small one time fee and get it published worldwide ) in the US as well as some sales now to magazines. And definitely follow the advice already given and register the copyright in the US/Canada.

Thanks very much for this information and advice given. I'm in the process of getting the image copyright here in Canada, and I will see if I can do the same is the US as well. I will have to check out these stock photo agency as well. I have sent one email already and waiting for a reply from them.

Again thanks.

Sep 08, 2004 at 09:55 PM

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jc1d wrote:
Dennis,

There is no real set price for an image unless you are talking about individual print sales. But it appears you have the potnetial for licencing and usage fees which will all depend on the potential buyers useage. You do not sell the rights to the image but sell a licence for the client to use the image.

Prices will range widely depending on useage. If the local air show promoter wants to include a small image for next years brochure you are certainly not going to charge them as much to use the image as you might if some international corporation wanted to use your image to sell their product.

It is all about the useage license you sell and keeping control of your image.

It appears you have something very useful in this image. Protect it and explore your options.

Again this is good stuff to know and I will be trying to see what I can do here for this image. I want to keep control of the image so that is good news indeed. Thanks for all the valuable information.

Sep 08, 2004 at 09:59 PM

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p.4 #12 · F-18 Jet

wich lens did you use for that ?

Sep 08, 2004 at 10:56 PM

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p.4 #13 · F-18 Jet

sadghost wrote:
wich lens did you use for that ?

I used a Canon 75-300 UMS III lens for this shot.

Sep 08, 2004 at 11:58 PM

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p.4 #14 · F-18 Jet

Hi Dennis ... this is one very amazing shot... I'd be placing an order for that new camera if I was you.

If this does not spin you a dollar or three I would be very very surprised.

Andrew

Sep 09, 2004 at 01:06 AM

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adom wrote:
Hi Dennis ... this is one very amazing shot... I'd be placing an order for that new camera if I was you.

If this does not spin you a dollar or three I would be very very surprised.

Andrew

Thanks for the compliments on this image and yes I hope to get some dough for this image, but so far I have just started to look around on the web sites where I can try to sell this image, and yes that would be nice to get the new camera for sure or another lens.

Thanks again

Sep 09, 2004 at 01:31 AM

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p.4 #16 · F-18 Jet

Not to take away from an excellent photo, but...

Actually, the effect is unrelated to the sound barrier (despite the notation on the McDonnell Douglas website showing a similar image and making this claim).

It's simply that moist air enters a zone created by the airfoil (wings) that imparts a change in velocity, thus a decrease in pressure, which is what causes the water molecules to condense. The key factor is the pressure differential, not the absolute velocity.

This can and does happen below the "speed of sound" and it's a virtual certainty that NO mach 1+ flights are occurring within populated areas and especially at low altitudes.

Sep 09, 2004 at 01:31 AM

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p.4 #17 · F-18 Jet

we stated this on the first page

Sep 09, 2004 at 02:00 AM

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p.4 #18 · F-18 Jet

SYN ACK wrote:
we stated this on the first page :)

No, the cause was incorrectly stated as: "When brea[k]ing the sound barrier,..." and this effect is not related to the sound barrier, but rather is dependent on the temperature, pressure (fluctuations) and presence of sufficient a quantity of water molecules to condense. Refer to "Prandtl-Glauert Singularity" for detailed explanation. The only connection is that an appropriate pressure differential is more likely with, but not required by, the aircraft reaching Mach 1. In fact, most examples of this phenomenon are cited as "slightly subsonic".

I maintain that an airshow demonstration at low altitude, over land, and in a populated area, would not involve supersonic flight.

Sep 09, 2004 at 02:38 AM

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DBevis wrote:
Not to take away from an excellent photo, but...

Actually, the effect is unrelated to the sound barrier (despite the notation on the McDonnell Douglas website showing a similar image and making this claim).

It's simply that moist air enters a zone created by the airfoil (wings) that imparts a change in velocity, thus a decrease in pressure, which is what causes the water molecules to condense. The key factor is the pressure differential, not the absolute velocity.

This can and does happen below the "speed of sound" and it's a virtual certainty that NO mach 1+ flights are occurring within populated areas and especially at low altitudes.

Thanks for the compliments on the image, and yes I have learned that this is the case for this image and not the sound barrier. Still this is all interesting just the same.

Again thanks for the details on the effect

Sep 09, 2004 at 03:14 AM

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p.4 #20 · F-18 Jet

Well first of all nice image but being in the navy I see this all the time. Only thing it looks more like an F-14 than a F/A-18. There are thousands of these shots taken every year by military photographers. As far as marketing it Im sure that someone would want this its a great capture

Sep 09, 2004 at 04:13 AM


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