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p.10 #9 · Being asked to shoot a wedding when you aren't a wedding photographer | |
Ziffl3 wrote:
Since we are on page 10 .....
Noobs/newbies/lurkers need to understand that doing a fly-bye or a crash-n-dash without much homework or any intentions to dive into this world of employment (full time / part time) will garner you some back lash.
Shall we say a 'crash' for you aviation nuts out there.
Part of society can not take criticism or critique, particularly when harsh.
Yes, harsh criticism is apart of this forum. Lately it has been a little soft. (Such is the ebb and flow of an on-line forum.)
What most noobs/newbies don't know ....this actually helps you deal with clients who can get irate and disrespectful.
It will help you gain the thick skin in dealing with clients.
Clients that may even sue you because you missed Great Aunt Bettie at the wedding and she passed away.
Don't like it .... move on.
To this point there has been no name calling or out and out slander.
Hence the Mod(s) has not locked down or appear to have visited.
The wedding section is pretty good at moderating itself - for the most part.
When needed ... the Mod will step in.
Like any community, you need to make your way. Be it either ugly or smooth.
Unlike other forums, we tend to call members out on B.S., trolling, and/or a quick-trick-pony (It is not Vegas/Macau).
If you stick around, share your thoughts, actually engage in discussions you will get nuggets of information. Even golden nuggets from time to time.
Happy - Hump Day!
-Mark...Show more →
The thing is, Mark, is that those who give harsh criticisms, can't receive those criticisms back. Especially when their criticisms are based on nothing but preconceived and erroneous assumptions.
To take it a step further, justifying the reactions in this thread as preparation for clients is a cop out to me.
Irrational and disrespectful people are not unique to photography. And like I said before, professionalism and customer service are not alien to me.
This post is a bit patronizing.
It's almost like you're saying "Oh the people in here are mean to you, because it's for your own good" lol.
It's not about thick skin, it's not about being defensive. It's about me replying to replies. That's all it ever is. Nothing said here ever got me upset. A little concerned about the amount of people that are so hell bent over something so insignificant, but that's about it. All I did was stand my ground.
Yes, I am well aware that there is probably over 500 years of solid experience in this thread alone, and the members
here are great at wedding photography which is why I posted here. But even with that experience and the knowledge, no one should treat another person with inferiority from the gate; Not to mention the condescension was being passed off as "good advice".
Unlike other forums, we tend to call members out on B.S., trolling, and/or a quick-trick-pony
I can't think of a single forum I've been a part of that doesn't do this.
Here's the deal. For everyone that thinks that I have a poor attitude and that I came here just to start a fight and I like the negative attention and you have all of this animosity towards me etc, I'm not going to change your mind. I'm not going to say that I didn't try. But you aren't going to change mine either. So from here on out, all of these words of wisdom posts that address me like I'm an 8 year old, all of these posts summing up my character as a human being, etc - I'm going to refer you to this post. That's it.
I repeat myself because I get that some people don't want to read the entire thread, but I think this will be it for those kinds of posts.
As for those that whole heartedly feel that I shouldn't do this, because you have a genuine concern that I may do something that could hurt me. I thank you for your concern, and I sincerely mean that. However, If I have an ounce doubt after receiving the prominent info about this wedding, that it may be much tougher than originally anticipated, I give you my word that I will bow out graciously.
I'm a pretty good guy, I like discussions and I enjoy debating. It's healthy and everyone involved can learn from it. But I can only say the same thing so many times lol.
Everyone that I've disagreed with, I hold nothing against any of you. Some people get very passionate and aggressive online. It's almost like the internet has become the new highway, and flaming is the new road rage. Some of the nicest people become some of the harshest on the internet, just like they do when they get in a car lol.
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