KCollett wrote:
Great set Peter. Long-tailed shots are superb. Ontario Dove images are neat. Lots of potential in that short lens.
Thank you, Ken, I am only sorry I didn't get 8-15L sooner. When I finally get to the Raptor Conservancy, 8-15L lens is the one which will see some action, this was just a feasibility study. Even if I was into it, which I am definitely not, baiting wild (or semi-wild ) raptors doesn't cut it.....in order to get a viable shot at 8mm, a bird has to practically land on your lens. So we are talking captive birds only.
StillFingerz wrote:
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More beautiful images Peter, great set, the last with the wing positing is just stunning
Thank you Jerry, ole bean, good gears make a difference. In fact, if you can attract birds to alight on your hand with offering of seeds, you should be able to get their picture in flight with a very wide angle lens. When your plan/gears are ready, I'll share a few little tips with you.
K mueller wrote:
very nice, looks as if hes going to land on your lens
Actually, it came very close to that a few times, and one of them tried to get a grip on the front objective of the lens.......for a moment I thought that the glass coating was marred permanently ....thankfully, those were just smudges that I could clean off.
ashley138 wrote:
Great set!! The LTD shots are superb!! THe pigeon shots are awesome, great work - you can see the noise but still great images.
Thank you much Ashley.
Some time ago I did a similar BIF test with 15mm Fish Eye (the old prime), and then last year did it with 16-35L @ 16mm. Now with 8mm FL it's the and of this sorta experimenting.....Canon makes nothing wider than that.
surfnron wrote:
Very nice again Peter. 2 is my pick for the great detail ~ Ron
Ron, thank you kindly.......1120mm FL pulls the detail in pretty good, particularly on (still) superb IQ camera such as 1DsMkII, as long as ISO is no more than 400-800, depending on the degree of cropping, scene luminance and such.
Great shots.
....thankfully, those were just smudges that I could clean off. 
Beautiful detail.