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RJKphoto
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


Could some one who owns this lens please pm or post a close up image of the front element where it is monted into the face of the lens? Does it appear to have a few "steps" between the outer filter ring and the front element?

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Jan 28, 2013 at 02:24 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


The old MF one?
http://mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/180200mmnikkor/200mma.htm
The AF versions don't have a filter ring.



Jan 28, 2013 at 02:30 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


I saw that TM, but I'd like to see a closer view.


Jan 28, 2013 at 02:34 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


Humm I think I figured it out. Opinions please, is this lens REALLY missing the front element?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-AIS-200mm-F-2-Nikkor-ED-Professional-Manual-Focus-Parts-or-Repair-/261159132872?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cce4c1ec8



Jan 28, 2013 at 02:42 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


Yes it is.


Jan 28, 2013 at 02:54 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


it states so in the info on the ebay auction...


Jan 28, 2013 at 03:02 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


Alan


http://photofinish.smugmug.com/Other/Misc-Camera/i-kpqPW8k/0/XL/242806-XL.jpg



Jan 28, 2013 at 03:32 PM
RJKphoto
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


It states that it's missing the front element in the auction, but the seller is an antique dealer not a photo dealer. Every image I've looked at of the lens online looks like the front element is very recessed...What are the odds of Nikon having that element anymore? And who would take just the front element out of an expensive lens?


Jan 28, 2013 at 05:53 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


The latest model of the Ais version came with an element at the very front IIRC but it served as a clear filter to protect the optics. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...

Chris C.

Edited on Jan 28, 2013 at 06:00 PM · View previous versions



Jan 28, 2013 at 05:56 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


RJKphoto wrote:
And who would take just the front element out of an expensive lens?


I would guess that the front element was probably broken and that's why it was taken out. As Chris C. says above it is clear glass anyway...but it should still be on the lens.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


I don't think on the old AI ED-IF version it was just a protective element, rather a serious part of the optical formula, as can be seen in the link that TrenchMonkey provided.


Jan 28, 2013 at 06:11 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


Quoted from MIR:

The remarkable Nikkor 200mm f/2.0 ED IF lens was given another upgrade as Ai-S lens which has serial number from 178501. However, a facelift was also being done to the last of the series which occurred during mid of '80 where the high speed telephoto lens was again redesigned with a fixed 122mm built-in UV filter which serves more to protective its front lens element.

I believe this 122mm UV filter was in front of the forward-most glass...

Chris C.



Jan 28, 2013 at 06:26 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


That one on eBay just squeaked in then, serial number 178957


Jan 28, 2013 at 08:30 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


Just an FYI, the seller responded in an email that they did test it on a Nikon body and it wouldn't focus...

Chris C,



Feb 14, 2013 at 02:52 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


New developments coming soon..


Feb 28, 2013 at 06:22 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


Did somebody get a great deal


Feb 28, 2013 at 09:17 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


I picked up a malfunctioning 400 f2.8 ai and have noted the following symptoms:
- won't quite focus to infinity
- very soft wide open, improves slowly until f11, at which point it's decent, but still not as sharp as my 300 f4.5 ai, while still much heavier
- switching between 2.8 and 4 seems to make no difference whatsoever in pictures, though you can see the aperture blades move accordingly
- focus is super smooth, glass is clean barring a few marks on the frontmost element

What might be the issue here, an element knocked out of alignment? Who might be able to adjust/repair it, or could I do it myself somehow? Are there some reliable guides out there for this sort of thing? Thanks a lot ahead of time, guys, I('d/'ll) appreciate it!

Edited on May 14, 2013 at 06:39 PM · View previous versions



Mar 13, 2013 at 03:34 AM
Stilltime
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


That was the new development? That you purchased a low-production, discontinued lens for a few hundred less than the typical used price knowing it was missing the largest element and will not focus on a Nikon body?

I'm sorry, you might scour eBay for other damaged lenses for parts or call around to small Nikon repair centers? It will probably be extremely difficult to source one though.

Chris C.



Mar 13, 2013 at 11:03 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


aisi wrote:
Any thoughts on where one might be able to find the front element for this lens? Where would I even search, or who might have nonfunctioning versions with a good element?

More importantly, I picked up a malfunctioning 400 f2.8 ai and have noted the following symptoms:
- won't quite focus to infinity
- very soft wide open, improves slowly until f11, at which point it's decent, but still not as sharp as my 300 f4.5 ai, while still much heavier
- switching between 2.8 and 4 seems to make no difference whatsoever in pictures, though you can see the aperture blades move
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you need special tools to work on these lenses. it's pretty safe to say, no, you're not going to be able to fix it.




Mar 13, 2013 at 11:07 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Nikon 200mm f2.0 ED-IF owners


Thanks stilltime, but I'm not that daft. Nikon gave me a quote for the repair ahead of time, another upon receiving it, took my credit card info, and then shipped it back a few days later, parts no longer available. Seems they might have known that at any prior stage, given the problem, model and serial number.

The tools are not a problem (thought a wide spanner may be tricky for the massive glass), it'd be finding a repair manual, as I'd think it's an adjustment issue (for the 400, obviously). I'll try looking, perhaps ask the repair centers. I already work in a cleanroom lab setting. Thanks, if anyone else has any other leads or suggestions, fire away. The 400 is a promising gem in the rough.

Edited on May 14, 2013 at 06:40 PM · View previous versions



Mar 14, 2013 at 03:02 AM
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