fredmiranda.com
Login

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1              end
  

Archive 2012 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field

  
 
JameelH
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #1 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field


Look into Promote Controller - it does a pretty good job of focus bracketing in addition to a bunch of other things.

http://www.promotesystems.com/products/Promote-Control.html



Nov 28, 2012 at 05:46 PM
Pixel Perfect
Offline
• • • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #2 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field


Bacalhau wrote:
Another "way" to get the DOF you want, is to buy in TS-e lenses. Sure there are compromises, but so does stacking.


He's not after DoF, that is he's not taking shots at different focus points and combining them for large DoF, he want to take a series of shots at a range of different apertures to see which one works the best. You certainly don't bracket aperture when doing multiple shots for extended DoF.



Nov 28, 2012 at 05:47 PM
wicked-d
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #3 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field


Took the risk and loaded the Magic Lantern software, all went well. Problem is the DOF Bracketing feature is not there. It seems that feature is only on the NIGHTLY BUILDS software, which is USE AT OWN RISK they say....hmm.


Nov 28, 2012 at 06:10 PM
snapsy
Online
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.2 #4 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field


wicked-d wrote:
Took the risk and loaded the Magic Lantern software, all went well. Problem is the DOF Bracketing feature is not there. It seems that feature is only on the NIGHTLY BUILDS software, which is USE AT OWN RISK they say....hmm.


Generally speaking the biggest risk from ML is in the first install, since it modifies the boot loader in your camera's firmware. Once you get past that the ML image itself is loaded off the card every time you turn your camera on, so if you encounter a bug its effects should be limited to that power-on session (provided the bug didn't corrupt one of the NVRAM properties), after which you can simply cycle power or if need be, remove your CF/SD card so that ML doesn't boot for the next power-on session (or leave the card in and hold "SET" down during power-up, which will bypass ML for that session). You can then decide to fall back and flash to an official ML release or even stock firmware.

Edited on Nov 28, 2012 at 06:31 PM · View previous versions



Nov 28, 2012 at 06:29 PM
RobDickinson
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #5 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field


Problem with holding SET down on boot is that it seems to forget that and load ML when the camera comes back from sleep again anyhow...


Nov 28, 2012 at 06:30 PM
Bacalhau
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #6 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field


Pixel Perfect wrote:
He's not after DoF, that is he's not taking shots at different focus points and combining them for large DoF, he want to take a series of shots at a range of different apertures to see which one works the best. You certainly don't bracket aperture when doing multiple shots for extended DoF.



Thanks for the clarification. That seems to be dfficult to obtain considering that the AF focus happens automatically - so in manual focus, one would have to rely in tweaking the focus point manually,and using a narrow DOF to start with - how can them the software guess where a given focus range will be?
Indeed the TS-e lenses wil not be automated, but will allow a superior control of DOF - without changing the aperture or speed settings - just a knob twist (or two). you can have a very narrow to a very large range,and withe the newer lens versions, that allow T&S rotation at 0 to 90 degrees, focus/DOF can become very creative.

There is a specialized stacking software - actually comes together with hardware, that allows automated focus stacking. The camera sits on rails, and a small electric coupled motor, does the work, per say. according to pre-set software comands. It's used in ultra macro photography.

Not sure if it fits the bill, but maybe can be adapted.



Nov 28, 2012 at 09:27 PM
wicked-d
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #7 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field


I do not need or want stacking, simply three images shot at three different apertures, all with one button press on the camera. It bewilders me why this is not a stock feature.


Nov 28, 2012 at 09:29 PM
RobDickinson
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #8 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field


wicked-d wrote:
It bewilders me why this is not a stock feature.


Because features add complexity and you must be the only one who wants this as an automatic feature.

It would be relatively easy (guessing) to write a pc app to drive it via tethered shooting.



Nov 28, 2012 at 09:32 PM
gdanmitchell
Offline
• • • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #9 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field


OK, varying aperture to control DOF makes sense, but I still don't understand why you would want to shoot at every full stop throughout the camera's range. Either you could just select the aperture that produces the effect you want, or you might shoot one at a very large aperture and one at a very small aperture.

What am I missing?

Dan

wicked-d wrote:
Dan, I shoot products for my web site, but I prefer a stylised shot at times rather than an 'all in focus' shot, but depending on what I am going for, I may like a shallow depth of field or a really shallow depth of field.

Some examples of the shooting I do is here: click here

The above are fairly standard, but when I want the varying depth, it is for a result such as the banner graphic on this page: click here

The above shot was taken three times at f4, f8 and f16, and I choose which I want to
...Show more



Nov 29, 2012 at 02:22 AM
wicked-d
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #10 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field


gdanmitchell wrote:
OK, varying aperture to control DOF makes sense, but I still don't understand why you would want to shoot at every full stop throughout the camera's range. Either you could just select the aperture that produces the effect you want, or you might shoot one at a very large aperture and one at a very small aperture. What am I missing?


It is a simple matter of having the ability to choose POST shooting and image processing, which depth of field suits my needs. I can not simply just use f8 as that is not what I always want, sometimes I do want to use the shot with f2.8, it all depends on the creative I am making at the time, which can be sometime down the track after shooting.



Nov 29, 2012 at 02:34 AM
Bacalhau
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #11 · Canon 5D MkII Bracketing for Depth of Field


interesting article:
http://www.visus.uni-stuttgart.de/uploads/tx_vispublications/eg07-kraus.pdf

now, what about photoshop Photoshop DOF effect? it might help...?

http://www.photoshopessentials.com/photo-effects/depth-of-field/
http://digital-photography-school.com/how-to-recreate-depth-of-field-in-7-steps-post-production
http://www.creativepro.com/article/one-click-depth-field-photoshop-cs6



Nov 30, 2012 at 02:07 AM
1              end




FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1              end
    
 

Welcome back
Log in to your account