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i'm gonna take a swing with Nissins new MG8000 unit. ordered one at the show (special deal) complete with HVPP. seems to be a bit better thought out and beefier build. they also claim capability of 1000 full output pops w/o a temp issue.
quartz flash tube and ceramic polymer reflector. some incidental additional cooling. fully nikon CLS compatible in cluding the SB800. outputs are within a margin of error close enought to not make a real difference. even supports nikon HVPP too which will give me a choice of 3 different HVPPs to use now.

http://www.nissindigital.com/mg8000_spec.html







i guess i'll see in a week or two

if you want more it's gonna be Quantum.



Oct 28, 2012 at 03:14 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


Awesome. I saw this in Pop Photo. I have a di866 MKII and I love it.

brad



Oct 28, 2012 at 04:55 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


what kind of special deal did you get on that?


Oct 28, 2012 at 05:21 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


Yeah i saw it at the show also. I didn't bite because of first version syndrome.

When you get the unit. See if it support FP-SYNC above 500 as a remote. The Di866 first version as a remote wouldn't listen to the commands correctly. On hotshoe however it supported it.



Oct 28, 2012 at 05:40 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


luke0622 wrote:
what kind of special deal did you get on that?


$539 for the flash and the external HVPP shipped


Edited on Dec 17, 2012 at 10:00 PM · View previous versions



Oct 28, 2012 at 11:50 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


mrgetalife wrote:
Yeah i saw it at the show also. I didn't bite because of first version syndrome.

When you get the unit. See if it support FP-SYNC above 500 as a remote. The Di866 first version as a remote wouldn't listen to the commands correctly. On hotshoe however it supported it.


it is essentially a boilerplate Di866 with some HD upgrading. nothing new here just flash unit body armor. 2 year warranty too. add the warranty extension of my CC and thats 3 years. no fear here. i'll see, but FP has issues/limitations in itself.



Oct 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


well i have the MG8000 now and finally have power to charge the HVPP up. used it today and a 10k race and it performed as well as my SB900 in everyway. did not get an opportunity to "stress" it or use any of the ther functions other then iTTL. i am pretty much happy with it. supports on camera FP throughout the range. i have not tried it off camera as a slave other then just some basic stuff wehich it did perform as adverted. the P300 battery back has a "homemade" feel about it but works as it should. it is to me larger then it needs to be. friction fit cabling (quite tight too) and 2 outputs. the flash unit also accepts the nikon SS-SD9 HVPP too as well as my DCB40 as soon as it comes back from rebuild (now in its 9th year of use)


Nov 12, 2012 at 01:22 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


It should perform as well as a 900 for $629...


Nov 12, 2012 at 01:55 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


thats $539 w/ a NDP300 HVPP. and it should and will outperform it when it comes to high output repeated use. you see when one doesn't understand the product/usage and what you are getting one can become very confused on cost vs value.

the HVPP from Nikon (SD9) is a fairly low order device even compared to what i referred to as "homemade" feel nissin pack (approx pricing in the $300+ range ref B&H) is still a better overall product with higher output/control/features vs $189 battery pack. the nikon is a backup but not a primary product by any means. in reality it is very pricey for its construction and function.

even the case was just a little better thought out. no the flash unit only comes with the single soft dome, but it can remain on the flash unit in the case due to the velcro false bottom which can drop out and allow the extra room.

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Nov 12, 2012 at 04:16 AM
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mrgetalife wrote:
Yeah i saw it at the show also. I didn't bite because of first version syndrome.

When you get the unit. See if it support FP-SYNC above 500 as a remote. The Di866 first version as a remote wouldn't listen to the commands correctly. On hotshoe however it supported it.


works like a charm in combination with a SB900/SB700/MG8000 slaving off a SU800 in FP



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6 weeks of use and so far in normal operation it has performed as advertised and out performed the SB900/910 for use in power stressing situations.


Dec 07, 2012 at 01:09 PM
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Steve Beck wrote:
It should perform as well as a 900 for $629...


My BAD!!!! just looked at the receipt after 2 months. it was even a better deal then I thought at $539



Dec 17, 2012 at 10:01 PM
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I'm interested in this flash... but I've read somewhere that it has a very long recycle time when used at 100%, almost double than a regular Nikon device. Can you confirm / infirm that please?


Dec 18, 2012 at 02:03 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


Where can you order one of these?

Never mind. Found it at B&H.



Dec 18, 2012 at 02:16 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


Mishu01 wrote:
I'm interested in this flash... but I've read somewhere that it has a very long recycle time when used at 100%, almost double than a regular Nikon device. Can you confirm / infirm that please?


these are real world values not specs from the companies.

using 4 AA fully charged imedion 2400 mah NiMh batteries and both flash units on full manual
SB900 from off to pilot lamp on 2 sec
MG8000 off to pilot lamp green (on) 3-4 sec

recycle time after 4 full bursts to fully form the caps
SB900 3-3.5 sec
MG8000 4-4.5 sec

using a fully charged Nikon SD9 HVPP with 8 imedion 2400 NiNh batteries
SB900 under 2sec
MG8000 just under 2sec

using the Nissin SP 300 HVPP on Hi(red) (has 3 output pos/ green low/ orange mid/ red high)
MG8000 over 1 but less then 2 sec
SB900 over 1 but less then 2 sec
in Low both averaged approx. 2 sec between burst to pilot light on

this unit was designed for use with a HVPP for optimum performance and to do it continuously where continuous use at full output will stop a SB900 and reduce the effectiveness of the SB910.

the use of iTTL of course increases its uability considerably.
as with anything it is give and take. from here up you would use a quantum a that's only a few dollars more.



Dec 18, 2012 at 06:55 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


Well, the numbers you are offering looks pretty good! Thank you!

One extra question... is this flash menu easy to work with or is a PITA? As I get older and older I hate complicate things



Dec 18, 2012 at 09:46 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


super easy once you do the walk around through the system


Dec 18, 2012 at 01:55 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


Mishu01 wrote:
Well, the numbers you are offering looks pretty good! Thank you!

One extra question... is this flash menu easy to work with or is a PITA? As I get older and older I hate complicate things


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I think this has the same menu system as the di866 MKII and it is awesome. I love it. Really fast, easy and visual.

brad



Dec 18, 2012 at 02:18 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


yes it does


Dec 18, 2012 at 08:34 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Nissin MG8000 Flash Unit


I just pulled the trigger on the NISSIN DI866 II SPEEDLITE FLASH for $253.34

At that price.. it's almost disposable. But all good things rad so far. I gave the SB-800 to my GF for her new body I bought her for Xmas. This is just the adjunct to the T5D r Quantum I run for regular gigs.



Dec 28, 2012 at 09:27 PM
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