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p.1 #1 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

Hello,

I currently have a 1ds2 for connecting to my long lens to shoot wildlife and planes. I'd like to stick with the 1D series for it's AF and also it's ability to use center point focus at f/8 instead of f/5.6 of the 5D/7D series. Opens up the possibility of teleconverters.

Right now, I'm trying to decide if I'd be better off with the 1D3 instead of the 1Ds2 for my applications. I like the higher MP count of the 1Ds2 but I also like the better high ISO performance of the 1D3.

Thoughts?

Sep 06, 2012 at 04:43 AM

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p.1 #2 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

datousteve wrote:
Hello,

Right now, I'm trying to decide if I'd be better off with the 1D3 instead of the 1Ds2 for my applications. I like the higher MP count of the 1Ds2 but I also like the better high ISO performance of the 1D3.

Thoughts?

You can probably take MP count out of the equation, both sensors have the same pixel pitch. So if you crop your 1DS2 down to the same FOV as the mk3 you will have the same number of pixels .

Sep 06, 2012 at 08:17 AM

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p.1 #3 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

While that is true, shooting on the 1ds2 with the option to crop to the same MP count results in my mind to more options with the 1ds2.

a) since u don't get the extra reach, you can get more of the surroundings.
b) if you really want to crop it, you'll get the same or very similar image (in terms of MP count) as you would had you shot it with the 1D3

Not sure if that makes any sense but that's my logic!

Sep 06, 2012 at 08:28 AM

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p.1 #4 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

But you get more keepers with the AF when the subject is larger in the frame/viewfinder. That's why I often prefered my 1D3 over my 1Ds3 when shooting birds with long lenses

Sep 06, 2012 at 08:54 AM

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p.1 #5 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

very good point lars. I never thought about that.

Sep 06, 2012 at 06:08 PM

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p.1 #6 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

I shot a 1Ds2 for years with my 500 f/4 (& 100-400) and was very happy with its results. Both 1Ds2/1D3 have the same pixel density so the extra MP of the 1Ds2 has the advantage there. I routinely shot ISO1600 with the 1Ds2 and even at ISO3200 it would clean up nicely. A full frame viewfinder makes tracking moving targets easier over the APS-H viewfinder. The only real disadvantage in my books on the 1Ds2 is its 4 FPS. If you can live with that the 1Ds2 is a brilliant camera.
Dave

Sep 07, 2012 at 03:33 AM

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p.1 #7 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

Thanks for the feedback Dave. Did you ever miss MFA on the 1Ds2? The lenses seem to be playing nicely but I always wonder if they could perform better with a tiny bit of MFA. I also like the one button operation and dust removal of the 1D3. Sigh... decisions.

Sep 07, 2012 at 08:04 AM

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p.1 #8 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

I'm drawing a blank - what is MFA?

Sep 07, 2012 at 01:30 PM

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p.1 #9 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

By the context I think "MFA" = Micro Focus Adjustment

If memory serves I think Canon actually calls it "AF Microadjustment" and around here it's generally just referred to as "MA"....which is what might have thrown you off.

Sep 07, 2012 at 03:06 PM

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p.1 #10 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

ChrisRD wrote:
By the context I think "MFA" = Micro Focus Adjustment

If memory serves I think Canon actually calls it "AF Microadjustment" and around here it's generally just referred to as "MA"....which is what might have thrown you off.

Thanks - that makes sense. For my 1DsMk2/1DMk2/20D/50D/5D I had no problem. Focus was spot on. Oddly enough my 1DMk4 required significant micro adjustment.

Sep 07, 2012 at 03:28 PM

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p.1 #11 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

I shot those two bodies side by side for a day with my 500 and they both make beautiful files. I ended up with 1D3 for the faster buffer/frame rate, the dust buster, and for MFA.

Granted, I have too many lenses... But my MA adjustment is between 9 and -8 on 1D3 for my entire glass collection, so MFA is super useful for me (as is FoCal).

Sep 07, 2012 at 03:40 PM

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p.1 #12 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

When I see MA, I think of Massachusetts. Which is why i go for MFA. AFM just doesn't ring to me.

Sep 07, 2012 at 05:15 PM

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p.1 #13 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

I use the 1DsII with the 500 but will upgrade to the 1DIV when the money is available.. I tried the 1DII, 1DIIn, 1DIII, and the 1DIV... If at all possible, save for the 1DIV and use what you have until...

Sep 08, 2012 at 11:28 AM

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p.1 #14 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

"I like the higher MP count of the 1Ds2 but I also like the better high ISO performance of the 1D3."

Despite the 1D3's ISO6400 setting, I found the 1Ds2 to be at least as good at high ISO when shooting raw.

Sep 08, 2012 at 04:26 PM

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p.1 #15 · Body for long lens - 1Ds2 or 1D3?

Mitchell Carter wrote:
"I like the higher MP count of the 1Ds2 but I also like the better high ISO performance of the 1D3."

Despite the 1D3's ISO6400 setting, I found the 1Ds2 to be at least as good at high ISO when shooting raw.

Thanks for sharing. Another option is going for the 7d and just forego extending beyond f/5.6. Or maybe I need to read up more about using the tape to trick the extenders. Thoughts?

Sep 09, 2012 at 04:31 AM

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