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p.58 #1 · p.58 #1 · OM-D & PEN Images


surf monkey wrote:
So have most OM-D users upgraded from the 20f1.7 to the 25f1.4?

The 20f1.7 seemed to be first good prime, so I assume their were many early MFT users.
Now I see so many photos on this thread using the 25f1.4.
Is it that much better? Is it the DOF, AF speed, bokeh?

Makten wrote:
I did, but recently got the 20/1.7 again for its nicer AOV and smaller size.
Everything is a little bit better with the 25/1.4, so overall it's preferable. But it's much larger, especially with the hood on, and of course narrower.
The worst thing with the 20 is the terribly slow and inaccurate AF. Sometimes it just hunts for five seconds without finding anyting, even in good light.


Thanks Makten,
That's the kind of info I'm looking for. I typically like the 35/40 mm focal length (35mm equivalent) better for "general" use, but I might try the 25. I just a beginner with the OM-D and 20/1.7, so I'm just starting to notice the AF issues with the 20.
I've also noticed that it doesn't like shooting toward the sun.



Nov 11, 2012 at 02:37 AM
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p.58 #2 · p.58 #2 · OM-D & PEN Images


I could see owning both, really - the 20 is a nice FOV and pocketable, the 25 is faster in aperture and AF, and they seem to render a bit differently.

Two from the 7.5mm Rok, then a "toned" photo (which is really just flare across a Minolta 58 1.4) then the Pany 100-300


Leaf in world by J L Smith, on Flickr


MonoForest by J L Smith, on Flickr


Auto_Toned by J L Smith, on Flickr


Leaf by J L Smith, on Flickr



Nov 11, 2012 at 02:48 AM
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p.58 #3 · p.58 #3 · OM-D & PEN Images


Monochrome conversion, shot with the PL25


Head by alkanphel, on Flickr



Nov 11, 2012 at 06:58 AM
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p.58 #4 · p.58 #4 · OM-D & PEN Images


Makten wrote:
I did, but recently got the 20/1.7 again for its nicer AOV and smaller size.

Everything is a little bit better with the 25/1.4, so overall it's preferable. But it's much larger, especially with the hood on, and of course narrower.
The worst thing with the 20 is the terribly slow and inaccurate AF. Sometimes it just hunts for five seconds without finding anyting, even in good light.


I'm always surprised to hear people complain about the 20's AF - I've never had an issue with it. I often take shots like this hiking at large apertures and a large majority are in focus......

F/2...







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Nov 11, 2012 at 01:08 PM
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juju1958 wrote:
many outstanding images yet again from everyone. Out trying different things toaday. often it can be a good idea to post even if you are not convinced. Next time you look in on them there can sometimes be a bit more clarity as to what you have posted. Good or not so good.
kr


Love the first one especially.



Nov 11, 2012 at 01:11 PM
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cputeq wrote:
Two from the 7.5mm Rok, then a "toned" photo (which is really just flare across a Minolta 58 1.4) then the Pany 100-300



I keep thinking about picking up the 7.5 Rok- would love to see more.



Nov 11, 2012 at 01:15 PM
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p.58 #7 · p.58 #7 · OM-D & PEN Images


A few from a hike yesterday....

45 1.8...












20 1.7...






14 2.5..
(these old stone walls are ubiquitous in rural New England and often seem to wind on endlessly in the middle of nowhere)....






I was impressed at the ability of the 14 to focus on the branches in the foreground here....






25 1.4....













Nov 11, 2012 at 02:16 PM
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michael49 wrote:
I keep thinking about picking up the 7.5 Rok- would love to see more.



I highly recommend it. Great lens, small, easy to correct if you really want to (I use Fisheye Hemi's "cropped" profile in Photoshop, which doesn't make it architecturally good but can defish it a lot.. but you can get away with the Sigma 10mm FE profile in LR4 if you want to correct it there). I typically don't correct it.

My thought was at $300-ish having a small, UWA is a no-brainer, even if it's not AF. If I really don't want the FE look it's pretty easy to get rid of (unless again you're shooting for perfectly straight lines).

(some of these might be reposts!) All with the Rok 7.5mm


Kids in Vicksburg War Museum by J L Smith, on Flickr

^The monument is circular, so this shot is uncorrected. The white disk at the top is the very top of the open roof


Columns in Vicksburg by J L Smith, on Flickr

^That shot is corrected via Fisheye Hemi.



Lot of ocean by J L Smith, on Flickr

^ I had to clone my shadow out of this shot - massive FOV with the lens.


P1020092 by J L Smith, on Flickr

^Cropped a bit from the left for composition.


I'll be moving to Albuquerque NM this coming Feb, so hopefully I'll be able to put it to much more use in the landscape department.



Nov 11, 2012 at 02:41 PM
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p.58 #9 · p.58 #9 · OM-D & PEN Images


Interesting lens the Roker .I can imagine having a lot of fun with it.

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Nov 11, 2012 at 08:14 PM
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cputeq wrote:
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I highly recommend it. Great lens, small, easy to correct if you really want to (I use Fisheye Hemi's "cropped" profile in Photoshop, which doesn't make it architecturally good but can defish it a lot.. but you can get away with the Sigma 10mm FE profile in LR4 if you want to correct it there). I typically don't correct it.....


Thanks, I think you sold me on it. I've got the Pany 14 2.5 and for wider shots I often shoot pano's, but having a FE would be fun for travel.



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p.58 #11 · p.58 #11 · OM-D & PEN Images


RKTodd I too have the rattlesnake noise with the PL 25, it's an annoyance at the most. I have never seen it affect a photo or the performance of the lens.
If it acts up while I am not shooting or in a hurry I turn the camera off and on and it seems to settle down for a while.

The lens is amazing in every other way.

Second shot is great JUJU, love the all black water!



Nov 12, 2012 at 07:05 AM
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p.58 #12 · p.58 #12 · OM-D & PEN Images


Juju, what is your post processing technique?


Nov 12, 2012 at 07:13 AM
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p.58 #13 · p.58 #13 · OM-D & PEN Images


Beautiful set Julian!





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Nov 12, 2012 at 12:53 PM
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Wilbus wrote:
RKTodd I too have the rattlesnake noise with the PL 25, it's an annoyance at the most. I have never seen it affect a photo or the performance of the lens.
If it acts up while I am not shooting or in a hurry I turn the camera off and on and it seems to settle down for a while.

The lens is amazing in every other way.

Second shot is great JUJU, love the all black water!


Thanks for the feedback on the noise. I plan to place an order for that lens this week. I have the 45 1.8 coming on Wednesday--can't wait to play!

Love the dog photos with the 45!



Nov 12, 2012 at 01:03 PM
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p.58 #15 · p.58 #15 · OM-D & PEN Images


Turn off the Fulltime-AF option to avoid rattlesnake on PL 25.


Nov 12, 2012 at 02:06 PM
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p.58 #16 · p.58 #16 · OM-D & PEN Images


rji,

what wonderful pictures of a couple of beautiful buddies



Nov 12, 2012 at 02:23 PM
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anthonysemone wrote:
rji,

what wonderful pictures of a couple of beautiful buddies


Thanks Anthony!



Nov 12, 2012 at 02:34 PM
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p.58 #18 · p.58 #18 · OM-D & PEN Images


kewlcanon wrote:
Turn off the Fulltime-AF option to avoid rattlesnake on PL 25.

That may help but it doesn't completely alleviate it. I have had that option disabled since day one of my OMD but I still occasionally get rattlesnake.



Nov 12, 2012 at 03:34 PM
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p.58 #19 · p.58 #19 · OM-D & PEN Images


Not on mine, never heard it rattles after I've turned it off.

cputeq wrote:
That may help but it doesn't completely alleviate it. I have had that option disabled since day one of my OMD but I still occasionally get rattlesnake.




Nov 12, 2012 at 03:37 PM
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FlyPenFly wrote:
Juju, what is your post processing technique?


As little as possible. Shoot Raw, import to LR, where I use curves and graduation if needed and CA removal . Export tiff 16bit 300dpi to Cs6. In Cs6 I use darkroom techniques , such as burn and dodge, local levels ,curves and saturation. Saturation is where I think you can make the greatest changes. One colour alteration whether hue,vibrancy or saturation will and does alter every other colour and contrast. This is where colour balance can help as well. In fact it is possible to alter the luminance, and contrast as much as needed through the saturation layers, using individual colours. Then re-size the image which is most often re-sampled bicubic sharper. Resizing is done as said with re-sample ticked, 72dpi and then set in what pixel dimensions I want. I rarely sharpen images even though I have sharpening off in camera and noise reduction off. I never apply noise reduction. Resizing the image deals with the noise if there is any.
Having said all this each and every image is approached as a different image and what treatment suits one, rarely if ever suits another taken on a different day, or time of day or location. Only time I ever use presets are for images taken at the same time , in a set, from the original image. It is always starting point if I feel lazy. I don't use others presets, they dont seem to help at all in how I photograph.
Probably not everyone's way, but it is the only way at the moment I know through trial and error, as I fumble along.


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