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p.40 #1 · p.40 #1 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


jjf88 wrote:
This really is quite impressive at 6400.

But this is about the ISO3200 of most other cameras, so don't flatter yourself



Jan 23, 2013 at 06:05 AM
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p.40 #2 · p.40 #2 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


chris78cpr - thanks!

KatieInTexas - your photos with the 35 were OK, so has to be the adapter or lens. Some smearing wide open would be expected, but not this much!



Jan 23, 2013 at 11:25 AM
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p.40 #3 · p.40 #3 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


Ok ... humor me here. I did some testing and came to some conclusions - and also have some questions.

First, I switched to shooting jpeg. Images are way sharper. Bummer. I'll be shooting jpeg until something better happens with LR4. (no, I'm not interesting in trying out anything else for now)

Second, I tested some other lenses with the M adapter. Since I bought it pre-owned (from the forum) I thought it might have been the adapter. Nope, don't think so. I slapped the CV Ultron 28 1.9 on there and wide open, it had some smearing; but by 5.6 it was virtually gone. Good to know. When it did occur though, it was heavily favored on the right hand side. Weird. Next, I put my old industar 61LD (basically a 50mm) on there and it didn't smear AT ALL. Weirder. So - it seems that wide open shooting with side angles will get me smeared - but shooting in jpeg will help some, as the image is overall sharper. BUT, haven't tested this back out with the 21mm lens yet. Will do that this afternoon. (21mm - jpeg - min app 5.6)

Now, the questions.

JPEG - do you have any favorite custom settings for this? I read somewhere that some people do -2 on noise correction and +2 on sharpen ... anything with DR or highlight stuff or anything?

Adapted lenses (MOSTLY AIMED AT BRODY) I am interested in the CV 15mm, and am wondering if you have had the smearing issue with this lens. I would like it to use on both the XP1 and my film body. Also, it's way cheaper than the upcoming 14mm (although testing on that lens looks pretty spectacular).

Thanks for humoring me on this! I will be using the XP1 and 35mm on a few shoots, so hopefully I'll have something decent to post soon!



Jan 23, 2013 at 05:26 PM
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p.40 #4 · p.40 #4 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


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Second, I tested some other lenses with the M adapter. Since I bought it pre-owned (from the forum) I thought it might have been the adapter. Nope, don't think so. I slapped the CV Ultron 28 1.9 on there and wide open, it had some smearing; but by 5.6 it was virtually gone. Good to know. When it did occur though, it was heavily favored on the right hand side. Weird. Next, I put my old industar 61LD (basically a 50mm) on there and it didn't smear AT ALL. Weirder. So - it seems that wide open shooting with side
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those results make sense. wide angle rangefinders tend to produce corner smearing because they tend to be much less telecentric. both those lenses would be expected to produce some smearing with the 21 being worse. the industar shouldn't produce any smearing or at least not a very noticeable amount as it is a much more telecentric lens. the fact that both the lenses seem to have worse smearing on the right side indicates that the adapter is probably a little off center. wide angles are much more sensitive to an out of spec adapter than telephotos.



Jan 23, 2013 at 05:41 PM
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p.40 #5 · p.40 #5 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


First night out with the X-E1 and 18mm in my jacket pocket. It's a joy to carry something less than a FF DSLR finally.






















Jan 23, 2013 at 07:02 PM
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p.40 #6 · p.40 #6 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


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Jan 23, 2013 at 07:19 PM
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p.40 #7 · p.40 #7 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


@ Katie in Texas: that RHS issue you are having with the CV lens has to be the adapter, no? It can only go on the camera one way, I am assuming. Do you have a micrometer that you can measure the thickness one side vs. the other?

If that lens is sharp on another camera edge to edge, I would be thinking adapter, not anything in the new camera (assuming that other lenses on the same body are sharp edge to edge).

If it's the camera, all lenses will exhibit this behaviour; if it's the lens, then the same behaviour would be expected on different cameras, I feel.

I have zero problems with the CV 12/5.6 on the Fuji M-X adapter, BTW.



Jan 23, 2013 at 07:20 PM
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p.40 #8 · p.40 #8 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


Kit Laughlin wrote:
@ Katie in Texas: that RHS issue you are having with the CV lens has to be the adapter, no? It can only go on the camera one way, I am assuming. Do you have a micrometer that you can measure the thickness one side vs. the other?

If that lens is sharp on another camera edge to edge, I would be thinking adapter, not anything in the new camera (assuming that other lenses on the same body are sharp edge to edge).

If it's the camera, all lenses will exhibit this behaviour; if it's the lens, then the same behaviour
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a number of rangefinder wides are known to have corner smearing issues on fuji due to astigmatism caused by sensor cover glass. how much depends on how telecentric the lenses is. the lack of symmetry does indicate an adapter problem though. fyi the cv 12/5.6 is much more telecentric than the cv 21/4 and also has much less corner issue on the 4/3 and NEX than the cv 21/4.



Jan 23, 2013 at 07:27 PM
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p.40 #9 · p.40 #9 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


beautiful shot ceder!


Jan 23, 2013 at 07:28 PM
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p.40 #10 · p.40 #10 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


@ Katie in Texas: I neither have any problem with my Fuji M-X adapter, but maybe you should go to the store and test your lens on another adapter and another camera to verify.

Regarding Lightroom, it is crappy at Fuji X files. Use Silkypix or Capture One, see http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1182632/0#11275307



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p.40 #11 · p.40 #11 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


@ sebboh: thanks; I am familiar with the effect you mention, but that does not explain the asymmetry, as you say. If astigmatism is the cause, it will affect both left and right sides equally.

When you wrote how much depends on how telecentric the lenses is, did you mean that the more telecentric the lens design is the less this will be a problem?

And can you point me to any reference re. telecentricity of the 12/5.6 design; that's interesting. I can say that this lens performed perfectly on the Ricoh GXR and performs perfectly on the X-E1. And how does the CV 15/4.5 stack up in this sense?



Jan 23, 2013 at 08:07 PM
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p.40 #12 · p.40 #12 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread






Highgate, North London.



Jan 23, 2013 at 08:24 PM
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p.40 #13 · p.40 #13 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


I have tried the CV 15 and there was no corner smearing. I only rented the lens to see if I wanted to buy one rather than wait for the 14mm, but I decided I wanted the faster aperture. The shots looked pretty decent I can post some examples, later.

Alan



Jan 23, 2013 at 09:01 PM
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p.40 #14 · p.40 #14 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread



@katieintexas, I could send you another m mount adapter for the Fuji if you want to test with it, I bought it but currently don't have any m mount lenses. PM if you are interested.

Alan



Jan 23, 2013 at 09:03 PM
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p.40 #15 · p.40 #15 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


apsphoto wrote:
I have tried the CV 15 and there was no corner smearing. I only rented the lens to see if I wanted to buy one rather than wait for the 14mm, but I decided I wanted the faster aperture. The shots looked pretty decent I can post some examples, later.

Alan



Would love to see some of your samples!



Jan 23, 2013 at 09:21 PM
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p.40 #16 · p.40 #16 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


KatieInTexas wrote:
Would love to see some of your samples!


I will post some when I get home, nothing special but it did tell me what I wanted to know.

Alan



Jan 23, 2013 at 09:27 PM
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p.40 #17 · p.40 #17 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


Kit Laughlin wrote:
@ sebboh: thanks; I am familiar with the effect you mention, but that does not explain the asymmetry, as you say. If astigmatism is the cause, it will affect both left and right sides equally.

When you wrote did you mean that the more telecentric the lens design is the less this will be a problem?

And can you point me to any reference re. telecentricity of the 12/5.6 design; that's interesting. I can say that this lens performed perfectly on the Ricoh GXR and performs perfectly on the X-E1. And how does the CV 15/4.5 stack up in this sense?


yes, the more telecentric the design the less this added astigmatism will be a problem. i'm afraid i have long since lost track of the reference to the 12mm being more telecentric than the 15mm, 21mm, and 25mm voigtlanders. the best way to tell by looking at the lens if you don't have the lens diagram is to look in the back and see how distant the rear iris appears to be.

with regard to the 15mm it is less telecentric than the 12mm, but i don't know how it compares to the 21mm and 25mm. the 15mm is also a sharper lens than the 12mm to begin with though. i remember seeing samples that indicated that corner smearing was present, but you'd be hard pressed to notice it unless you compared it to an identical shot taken with the gxr.



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p.40 #18 · p.40 #18 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread


Thanks sebboh!


Jan 23, 2013 at 11:04 PM
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p.40 #19 · p.40 #19 · Fujifilm X-mount Image Thread



Clean Up - Fujifilm X-Pro1 w/ 35mm f1.4 XF by brodyl.91, on Flickr



Jan 24, 2013 at 12:57 AM
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Brody,

Nice photo. Is that your mess?

JIm



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