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Ralph Conway wrote:
Ralph Conway wrote:
But I would be fine with 4 FPS and 7Ds AF in a 5D MK III at 18MP and ISO 51K.
Wow, so you'd be fine with the same sluggish fps and mirror/trigger response and the old 7D AF which arguably does slightly worse for center point still shots at times and 3 less MP?
sluggish? Yes, I would be fine with 4FPS. I do not shoot sports, neither Bif.
And yes, I think I would be happy with 7Ds AF, too. Of course I would not like to loose my 5D MK IIs center AF point.
And yes again. 12 MP do not give me enough resolution. That is, why I was never able to switch to Nikon. They just do not offer, what I need. 3DXs 24 MP is more then that in resolution - but one can buy 2 bodys (5D MK II) and all lenses I need at the same price of a 3DX (body only with 2 generations back ISO capabilities) here in germany.
I am no studio photographer at all. And I use flashes only when there s NO other chance to get a pic.
5D MK IIs 21 MP gives me more, than I need. 18MP looks well balanced to me and would support 100% of MY needs in resolution. I really expect high ISO 2-3 stops better (than 5D MK IIs) of the 1D X. If that would be given to me in a 5D MK II follow up ... great!
We will see soon, if 1D X fullfills my expectation.
I hate to say it but ANYTHING Nikon did for the D800 would just crush that. It's not like the sensor in it will be like 3-4 stops better or something, maybe 1 stop. And DR remains to be seen, there are some hints the DR might still not even hit the current Sony sensor levels.
I hate to say it but I do not see a D800 yet. D700 is a great camera but does not support my needs in resolution. And it does not have better ISO capabilities than my 5D MK. Even if it should: Itīs the same generation body at near by half the resolution.
It's not like we are talking a year later as with many xxD upgrades but FOUR years later and it might be another 4 using it after that.
Honestly I would just stick with my 5D2 and maybe get a 70D for the improved video (and might truly start looking D800 in a serious way for first time ever).
What is serious in looking for an year old (and stil) rumor?
3 stops better SNR from 1DX than from 5D2 is something far more mythical than the D800
I'd love your wishes to come true, but trust me, it is NOT going to happen. Honestly you can forget 2 stops better as well.
Well the 5D3 doesn't exist yet either so why can't I then bring in the rumored D800?
A 5D2 with 7D AF swapped in and 18MP and 2/3 stop better and everything else the same would be incredibly lame after four years IMO and I think it might flop (one can get the speed and no line skipped video in a 7D2 or jsut the video in a 70D and with the way Canon pricing has been going maybe it costs $3000 and you can sell a 5D2 for $1600 so you need to spend $1400 to get that and you will then have that for the next four years. lame. I honestly bet the D800 specs would crush that.).
If it had your 3 stops better that would be something although still quite a shame to be stuck at 3.9fps for only 18MP, but all the same yeah 3 stops better SNR middle gray alone might be enough to get my attention, but believe me the 1DX just is not going to be 3 stops better SNR middle gray than the 5D2. Heck even Canon marketing is only saying 2!! And even they have already admitted that some deal of that is simply due to internal jpg engine NR improvements! they need some radically different technology, radically different and nothing at all of the kind has been mentioned for the 1DX and even no matter what you do we are reaching limits.
if we are very lucky it could conceivably have 3 stops better usable DR range if they fix up read noise and banding which dirties up shadows but there are some early worrisome signs that canon won't match the sony sensor deep shadow cleanliness, 3 stops better DR alone would certainly be something, but I'm a bit dubious about even this
as for d700, if all you do is tripod work yeah i'd take the 5D2 any day over a D700 (and even moreso if you do video work )
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