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Jan Brittenson
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p.1 #1 · 50 vs 50


Two fifties, both on the D30. One is the Canon EF50/1.4, the other is a Leica Summicron-R 50/2 with a Cameraquest REOS adapter. Both at f/2. Both shot raw in daylight WB, converted in ACR (PS7) with the same settings. Can you guess which is which? I'm surprised how close they were in color and bokeh. One handles highlights significantly better though. (Don't cheat and check the EXIF now, or if you do keep it to yourself. )

http://www.rockgarden.net/download/50vs50/CRW_4807-800.jpg

http://www.rockgarden.net/download/50vs50/CRW_4810-800.jpg



Jun 01, 2004 at 07:37 PM
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p.1 #2 · 50 vs 50


Hi Jan

I will say that the top one is Not the canon

J



Jun 01, 2004 at 07:44 PM
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I'm going to guess that the top image is the Leica... wish that wasn't the case, but I suspect it is. I still think that my first Leica IIIF (we're talking the '60's here and it was an old camera then) with its f/2 Summitar lens was was of the best image makers I've ever had...

Tony Bonanno



Jun 01, 2004 at 08:02 PM
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p.1 #4 · 50 vs 50


Leica on top


Jun 01, 2004 at 08:10 PM
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p.1 #5 · 50 vs 50


Jan,

Did you autofocus 50 f/1.4 or manual focus it? Looks like the bottom image has less depth of field in the back than the top one.

Jeff



Jun 01, 2004 at 08:10 PM
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p.1 #6 · 50 vs 50


The focus seems questionable in the second - makes the comparison difficult.


Jun 01, 2004 at 08:13 PM
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p.1 #7 · 50 vs 50


I'll go agin the grain and say Canon on top. To me, the bokeh doesn't look like 50/1.4 on the bottom.

OTOH, I seem to be imagining things tonight.



Jun 01, 2004 at 08:14 PM
Jan Brittenson
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p.1 #8 · 50 vs 50


I noticed the lens on the bottom is a little longer than the top one. I'd guess it's a little more than 50mm, the top one a little less. That probably affected the DOF a little. Both are focused manually. (The D30 is difficult for this though, especially at shorter distances.)



Jun 01, 2004 at 08:17 PM
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p.1 #9 · 50 vs 50


jeffH70 wrote:
Jan,

Did you autofocus 50 f/1.4 or manual focus it? Looks like the bottom image has less depth of field in the back than the top one.

Jeff



Jeff

don't go and rile him up man

J



Jun 01, 2004 at 08:17 PM
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Hmm, the focus is not on the same plane. The EXIF on the Leica lens has incorrect F stop info -- I guess that wouldn't be supported, huh? Have you tried this at, say, F8? The Canon 50/1.4 does a lot better stopped down.


Jun 01, 2004 at 08:21 PM
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p.1 #11 · 50 vs 50


OTOH, the bokeh on the top has unpleasant brightness around the edge (I prefer slightly brighter centers) and I have always found the Canon to be quite nice in this regard.

Bah.

Good thing I don't even have a tool to look at EXIF on this comp...



Jun 01, 2004 at 08:34 PM
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p.1 #12 · 50 vs 50


jmcfadden wrote:
Jeff

don't go and rile him up man

J


Hey, I am supposed to be not partial, read my equipment list.

Jeff



Jun 01, 2004 at 08:36 PM
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p.1 #13 · 50 vs 50


I do like the bokeh of the bottom image (Canon I assume ).

Jeff



Jun 01, 2004 at 08:39 PM
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p.1 #14 · 50 vs 50


Wow.... that's a big quality difference. I wonder how the lenses would look at f/2.8 or f/4.

There is definitely a significant difference in the quality of the out of focus areas. Very interesting. I wonder if you had focused using a 1Ds if the results would be any different.

Arka C.



Jun 01, 2004 at 08:53 PM
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p.1 #15 · 50 vs 50


and then Jan goes off line

wanna bet he is re-shooting it right now to make it perfect

Jan , I am smiling bud , and having a little sport here

J



Jun 01, 2004 at 08:56 PM
Jan Brittenson
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p.1 #16 · 50 vs 50


The top one is the Summicron-R.

I do have other things to do than comparing lenses. The major difference I think is that the Canon flares a bit more, and it even had the hood on (EW-82 or whatever it's called, I'm too lazy to go check) while the Summicron had only its tiny little built-in one. Whenever there's a bright area in the image the Canon tends to light up across the entire image.

I don't think the bokeh is that different. And it wasn't intended as a sharpness test either. Both lenses will do just fine stopped down, the Summicron probably a bit better. (That should be no surprise to anyone.)

I think it's pretty neat to be able to use a Canon DSLR to do a cursory check of Leica R lenses.



Jun 01, 2004 at 09:07 PM
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p.1 #17 · 50 vs 50


oh I love it when I am right

J



Jun 01, 2004 at 09:19 PM
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p.1 #18 · 50 vs 50


The background of the two images are not exactly the same. That could throw this comparison off a bit. But very interesting test...


Jun 01, 2004 at 09:57 PM
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p.1 #19 · 50 vs 50


Thank you for the post. This is one of the most striking lens comparison photo. I think they should use the subject from now on for all lens tests
And I want to add that those who have fantasy confidence about their Canon glasses should see the reality. And also, they should note the brighter lens is not always the better one. Germans know how to cut the glasses.



Jun 01, 2004 at 10:58 PM
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p.1 #20 · 50 vs 50


Jan, thanks for the post. Nice comparison & would you know where I can find more details on that Canon adaptor for Leica lens?


Jun 01, 2004 at 11:26 PM
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