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p.1 #1 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


New 21 f/2.8, 50 f/1.4 and 85 f/1.4 coming

Check this out - I haven't translated it yet, and my German is rudimentary, but the spec sheets speak for themselves.

http://www.digitalkamera.de/Meldung/Neue_Objektive_von_Zeiss_jetzt_auch_mit_EF_Bajonett/5111.aspx

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:20 PM
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p.1 #2 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


Rough Google Translation:

2008-09-15 At the moment you as the owner of a Canon SLR with Zeiss still not very far. On the website there are no lenses in the Canon and heading for the EF bayonet. That should change from autumn 2008, and the beginning make the already known lenses Planar T * 1.4 / 50 ZE and T * 1.4 / 85 PA. In addition, the classic Dist Agon T * 2.8 / 21 now for R-and K-bayonet. Later is also an EF connection to come. For the end of the year Zeiss also plans a compact telephoto lens for rangefinder cameras. The Tessar T * 4 / 85, the ZM-series supplement

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:21 PM
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p.1 #3 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


Hi Whayne,

Good news. My German is not existant, but am I reading this right that they are also coming out with a 21mm f/2.8? That would be almost as big of news as the ZE mount.


Sep 14, 2008 at 11:22 PM
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p.1 #4 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


If the 21 is as good as the original minus the moustache distortion then @ 1400 Eur it'll be a great seller.

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:24 PM
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The 21 will come later but it is a floating element, complex design and retails for 1400 EURO.

If its anywhere near as good as the C/Y version, I would imagine the prices of those must drop dramatically.

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:25 PM
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p.1 #6 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


The 21 is a different design than the older C/Y version in that the old version had 15 elements in 13 groups while the new version has 16 elements in 13 groups. Perhaps that extra element helps with distortion control.

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:31 PM
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p.1 #7 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


Contax N conversions rule!

(At least for me they do....)

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:42 PM
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p.1 #8 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


I was astonished by all the details they mentioned; it says:

" all the exposures modes are supported, including auto, Progr, aperture-priority, exposure-priority. Even E-TTL- is supported."

"The data for the table are from existing models, so minor changes might happen"

That's a bit unclear - does someone with a YCZ-21 could verify diamter and lenghts: 87 x 109 mm?


Sep 14, 2008 at 11:44 PM
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montespluga wrote:
I was astonished by all the details they mentioned; it says:

" all the exposures modes are supported, including auto, Progr, aperture-priority, exposure-priority. Even E-TTL- is supported."

"The data for the table are from existing models, so minor changes might happen"



Wow, that's good news. Does it support aperture control from the camera?

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:45 PM
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I wonder if they will be producing the 35/2, 28/2, 25/2.8 and 18/3.5 in the ZE mount. No mention is made of them. It would seem to me these lenses are a bit more interesting to Canon users that the 50/1.4 or even the 85/1.4.



Sep 14, 2008 at 11:49 PM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
montespluga wrote:
I was astonished by all the details they mentioned; it says:

" all the exposures modes are supported, including auto, Progr, aperture-priority, exposure-priority. Even E-TTL- is supported."

"The data for the table are from existing models, so minor changes might happen"



Wow, that's good news. Does it support aperture control from the camera?


There is no reason that it would not. The older cosina made EF Voigtlander lenses had an electronic interface so the technology was there.

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:49 PM
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p.1 #12 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


My rusty German tells me that Program, Av, Tv and M is supported by the Canon on the ZE series lenses, as well as AF confirmation. Exif will show, and E-TTl is supported as well. Price: the 50 ~ $830; the 85 ~ $1430 and the 21mm, when it comes available in '09 ~ $2000.

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:51 PM
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all I have to say is, if the 21 supports auto aperture, it's going to be an instant purchase for me
even better maybe the 18 can be released as a ZE with auto aperture... now that would be sweet
I can't wait for tomorrow... (how old am I , feel like a kid before christmas )
am

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:52 PM
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montespluga wrote:
That's a bit unclear - does someone with a YCZ-21 could verify diamter and lenghts: 87 x 109 mm?



The Contax 21mm Distagon is 85 x 90.5 mm and 530 grams (vs. 600 grams fro the new ZF/ZE 21mm Disatagon). So the new lens is a little bigger and heavier than it's Contax predecessor.



Sep 14, 2008 at 11:52 PM
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Pixel Perfect:

"Wie bei allen EF-Objektiven werden bei den ZE-Modellen alle Informationen ausschließlich über elektronische Kontakte übermittelt. Dadurch werden sämtliche Belichtungsmodi wie Programm-, Blenden-, Zeitautomatik und manuelle Einstellungen unterstützt. Auch die automatische Fokussierbestätigung bleibt uneingeschränkt verfügbar."

Like all EF-lenses, with the ZE, all informations will be trasnmitted by electronic contacs. Thereby every exposure modus is available. Even the automatic focus confirm will work without any limits"

It looks like they added a AF-confirm-chip as the exif show the lensinfos as well as the exposure-data.

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:59 PM
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p.1 #16 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


what's interesting is if you look at the image of the 50ƒ1.4
there is no aperture ring or the nikon "bunny ear" aperture connection blades!
so the new lenses may indeed have auto aperture!
nice
am

Sep 14, 2008 at 11:59 PM
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p.1 #17 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


The price of the ZE 50 1.4 is listed as 580 Euros which looks like an extra ~$300 over the ZF version.
Is that right? So we have to pay an extra $300 for the exif info support.

Sep 15, 2008 at 12:02 AM
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p.1 #18 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


Pixel Perfect wrote:


Wow, that's good news. Does it support aperture control from the camera?


Of course. There is no other way to have all those modes on an EOS body.

Sep 15, 2008 at 12:04 AM
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Lotusm50 wrote:
montespluga wrote:
That's a bit unclear - does someone with a YCZ-21 could verify diamter and lenghts: 87 x 109 mm?

The Contax 21mm Distagon is 85 x 90.5 mm and 530 grams (vs. 600 grams fro the new ZF/ZE 21mm Disatagon). So the new lens is a little bigger and heavier than it's Contax predecessor.


So how can they state, the data would be from the available lenses??
- if they already show the new model's specs?


Sep 15, 2008 at 12:05 AM
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p.1 #20 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


montespluga wrote:


It looks like they added a AF-confirm-chip as the exif show the lensinfos as well as the exposure-data.


It is quite obvious to me that it is much more than an "AF confirm chip".

Sep 15, 2008 at 12:06 AM
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p.1 #21 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


I'm glad I was correct about all this. I've eaten enough crow this year

Sep 15, 2008 at 12:08 AM
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p.1 #22 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


Looks like another reality check to Canon on its non-tele lenses. Yes, competition is a good thing.

Sep 15, 2008 at 12:08 AM
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p.1 #23 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


arashm wrote:
what's interesting is if you look at the image of the 50ƒ1.4
there is no aperture ring or the nikon "bunny ear" aperture connection blades!
so the new lenses may indeed have auto aperture!
nice
am


It would be impossible for them not to have auto-aperture if they are to comply with the EF mount spec.

Am I the only one who finds this obvious?



Sep 15, 2008 at 12:11 AM
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p.1 #24 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


Well, the original Distagon 2.8/21 used glass which is not RoHS-compliant (probably lead-based), so the extra element isn't for extra corrections. The entire lens has been redesigned, with new glass. The CZ21 is and will be unique, and one like it can't be made again.

That being said, even if they only match, say, 95% of the original's optical qualities, that's still enough to blow away the competition, as it were.

Sep 15, 2008 at 12:28 AM
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p.1 #25 · Zeiss ZE is for Canon!


The fact that the picture of the ZE 50mm doesn't have an aperture ring would be the big tipoff to electronic aperture in my opinion.

Sep 15, 2008 at 12:52 AM

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