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Genya with Beauty Dish


Further to Pablo's thread featuring the beauty dish lighting full length fashion work, here's another example. All shot with dish up high and slightly right, model against white seamless. The last shot also has a silver reflector at her waist.

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Mar 28, 2008 at 06:41 PM
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Genya with Beauty Dish


Excellent images!

Very very nice work...and lovely models help too.

I like the color/tone of the images.

Very good use of the figure for fashion.

A pleasure to see here.

What don't I like?

Not much.

1. The hand growing out of the model's back.

Mar 28, 2008 at 06:50 PM
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Well, you would've heard me say, "wowwwww" when I opening this post.

Beautiful images. Love the post-work you did on these. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd images are my favs.

Thanks for sharing!

Scott

Mar 28, 2008 at 07:27 PM
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This is getting me more and more interested in using a beauty dish this way. The lighting is just great. She poses well and is good looking.

Lovely captures!

Mar 28, 2008 at 11:04 PM
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My God when did over exposed and poorly color balanced images become good ones? Can you day blown out??



Mar 28, 2008 at 11:08 PM
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Third is the only that really works for me. Check out Chuck's tutorials, mainly the one on COI.

Mar 28, 2008 at 11:08 PM
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Geo31 wrote:
My God when did over exposed and poorly color balanced images become good ones? Can you day blown out??




have you flipped through a fashion mag in the last decade?

regardless, the agency who paid me to shoot her loved the whole shoot, and is sending me more models next week. i guess they'll have to be subject to my poor lighting and colour control :-)

Mar 29, 2008 at 12:40 AM
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bacilonur wrote:
Third is the only that really works for me. Check out Chuck's tutorials, mainly the one on COI.



fair enough, but who's chuck? and what's coi?

Mar 29, 2008 at 12:41 AM
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Chuck (username: cgardner) is the lighting guru over in the lighting forum: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/board/44

These are technically well-lit images but what breaks it for me is the lack of contrast between the face, skin, and background. His site explains it quite nicely: http://super.nova.org/DPR/ It all just depends on what you're using it for. If it was complimented by a brightly-colored product shot in a magazine spread, I'd probably feel different since there'd be something for my eye to latch on to, but in their current state it's a bit harder, with the exception of #3, which I really like.

Mar 29, 2008 at 12:46 AM
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I quite like the effect / style. The photographs are reminiscent of 50's and 60's fashion photos often used on product packaging such as hair dyes and leggings.

As for Chuck Gardner, I have read a lot of his articles in the past. He seem to know his stuff and few techniques he suggested worked well for me.

Mar 29, 2008 at 01:31 AM
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yow! i love these! great work. i'm sure the agency is quite happy with them.

Mar 29, 2008 at 01:38 AM
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Anyone can call anything art and someone will be attracted to anything, but I think that even if one desired this effect, a far more refined version could be attained if more attention was paid to lighting, exposure, etc. These seem to have been snapped quickly with little attention to detail. Just having an eye is not enough. You need to be able to use the tools as well. If these shots were shown side by side with shots displaying the same "look" but taken with better technique, I think it would be clear how much better these could be.

Further - I think your assertion that this is fashion work that pleased is disingenuous. Fashion photos would show the clothes. This kind of depiction even if for the sake of art would not be tolerated since the goal is to sell clothes. You also say you are being sent more models to shoot. Is this fashion work or not? You would say you were being sent more clothes to shoot if it was fashion.

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Mar 29, 2008 at 01:42 AM
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all of them are great, love #6

Mar 29, 2008 at 01:44 AM
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elliotkramer wrote:
Anyone can call anything art and someone will be attracted to anything,

true. all of this, and anything really, is subjective.


but I think that even if one desired this effect, a far more refined version could be attained if more attention was paid to lighting, exposure, etc. These seem to have been snapped quickly with little attention to detail. Just having an eye is not enough. You need to be able to use the tools as well.

would LOVE to hear about more refined techniques. educate me, please :-)
we shot 6 looks in 3 hours...not exactly "snapped quickly", but what do i know.


If these shots were shown side by side with shots displaying the same "look" but taken with better technique, I think it would be clear how much better these could be.

again, i implore you to fill me in...show me some samples.


Further - I think your assertion that this is fashion work that pleased is disingenuous.

call me satan.


Fashion photos would show the clothes. This kind of depiction even if for the sake of art would not be tolerated since the goal is to sell clothes.

i BEG you to go find the latest copy of Italian Vogue and then tell me about "show the clothes" for fashion photos. remember, i didn't say "catalog".


You also say you are being sent more models to shoot. Is this fashion work or not? You would say you were being sent more clothes to shoot if it was fashion.

agencies supply models to the fashion industry. i supply the agency with photos of their models in fashion so that they can market their product. simple.




Mar 29, 2008 at 02:58 AM
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OK Satan -

You may be a great guy and a great photographer. I just don't like these images. Nothing personal. I look forward to your future posts.

Mar 29, 2008 at 03:05 AM
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They are not my cup of tea, but obviously you have a very distinct style and processing, and the clients are happy, so, great job!

Mar 29, 2008 at 03:06 AM
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Wonderful job. I particularly liked 2,6,8. Don't get to worked up over the hecklers-- par for the course here.







Mar 29, 2008 at 04:04 AM
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cheers mate, ur good and you know it. Love the post processing there, something different for a change. I'll buy you a beer if you'll show me how the PP is done -_^

Mar 29, 2008 at 07:48 AM

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