His recap this morning was painful to watch. And it likely did not help his "movement." He even read one of Zack's tweets. Far too much time was spent trying to defend himself against negative feedback. That's not to say that he doesn't have good ideas. I just don't think they're worth what he's charging and honestly question anyone that says they can create a business plan for you and totally restructure your business in one day for 16k. He would have been a lot better off if he'd have just pretended like there was no negative feedback.
He also looked like he'd been up for three days straight worrying about all the negative feedback. Towards the end it just turned into a netcasted version of a flame war. Not a good business decision.
he's a repeat....&feature=related" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">proofKudos to his business and marketing skills. He's gettin his. If anyone on this forum would spend 16,000 for a short period of time with him, would you do it? Would you say you did in here? He created a new genre? Holy crap. I'm not saying he's wrong at all. He comes off like a sophmore who has taken a lot of psychology courses. I can't believe people are buying it.
It's called, loving what you do. You see the moments and the passion. You get to be there and record it! The better connection you make with the client, the more they trust you. The more they trust you, the more they relax and act natural.
The emotional power of Jesh's images are more than most shooters so though he may not be bringing a new system to the table he is doing something better. I certainly would not devalue everything he has to offer.
The idea of changing the world with his style is a bit rich obviously but there is a baby in the bath water.
The emotional power of Jesh's images are more than most shooters so though he may not be bringing a new system to the table he is doing something better
He knows how to market himself and who to align himself with. He has a great business going.
Tad Killian wrote:
he's a repeat....&feature=related" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">proofKudos to his business and marketing skills. He's gettin his. If anyone on this forum would spend 16,000 for a short period of time with him, would you do it? Would you say you did in here? He created a new genre? Holy crap. I'm not saying he's wrong at all. He comes off like a sophmore who has taken a lot of psychology courses. I can't believe people are buying it.
It's called, loving what you do. You see the moments and the passion. You get to be there and record it! The better connection you make with the client, the more they trust you. The more they trust you, the more they relax and act natural....Show more →
We should be doing everything he is supposedly marketing and teaching.
Empathy understanding intuitively engaging and capturing the uniqueness of each of our clients should be a given and should come naturally to us as photographers.
It doesnt need to be sold to us via this Tony robbins-ish type of format.
What's next they will be selling us the air we breathe...?
Here are two new clips with him ....seriously?....people are buying into this stuff?
Can't believe it. Check out when he's trying to manipulate/generate emotions with the catastrophe in
Japan at the end of the clip.
Hat's off to him for selling his "consulting" at $16.5k a pop though....
From his site:
"regarding the One on One business mastery sessions, on sale for $16,500, all application spaces are presently filled, and we will begin the process of interviewing and assessing interested studios. if spaces remain open after the present applications are reviewed, i'll make another announcement."
He's taking the idea of 1000 true fans and turning that towards a business where you normally only get to work with clients maybe once or twice. However disingenuous he may be, he's selling himself more than his work. A lot of people could learn from that, maybe not going to the extreme that he does, but it's certainly a big part of this business.
I'd never pay that much for a one on one workshop unless maybe I could get a nice camera package out of it or a boat or something, but I can definitely see people taking him up on this.
You could probably learn most of these techniques from reading some books about psychology, human emotions, NLP etc. Again, someone selling you things you could learn for about 5 hours spent at your local library.
Why are you even wondering about this $16500 session? Of course it doesn't exist. Jeez are you not following the "discount" thread?
The $16,500 session's sole purpose to exist is to make the $500 webinar and $250 field guide seem like the biggest bargain in the universe. I mean really... if there are people paying $16,500 for one on one... and there must because if there weren't then why even hold the seminar right? Well... yeah if peeps are paying $16.5K to get it explained to them... then mabye I might be able to get a steal of a deal by just listening to the $500 webinar.
That's not to say that the $16.5K session really doesn't exist... but I guarantee you that the purpose of it is what I described. That there might be crazy people out there who might actually pay 16.5K for a one day lecture wouldn't be the most surprising thing ever
Inku Yo wrote:
I still don't know what "Beloved" is all about. It would be easier for me to spend $16.500 if I knew what I was actually going to learn.
"Beloved (1987) is a Pulitzer Prize-winning novel by Toni Morrison. The novel, her fifth, is loosely based on the life and legal case of the slave Margaret Garner. The book's epigraph reads: "Sixty Million and more," by which Morrison refers to the estimated number of slaves who died in the slave trade.
In 1998 the novel was adapted into a film of the same name starring Oprah Winfrey. Morrison was commissioned to write the libretto on Garner's life for the opera Margaret Garner (2005).
A survey of writers and literary critics conducted by The New York Times found Beloved ranked as the best work of American fiction of the past 25 years; it garnered 15 of 125 votes, finishing ahead of Don DeLillo's Underworld (11 votes), Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian (8) and John Updike's Rabbit series (8).[1] The results appeared in The New York Times Book Review on May 21, 2006.[2]
Time Magazine included the novel in its TIME 100 Best English-language Novels from 1923 to 2005."
danvprod wrote:
"Beloved (1987) is a Pulitzer Prize-winning novel by Toni Morrison. The novel, her fifth, is loosely based on the life and legal case of the slave Margaret Garner. The book's epigraph reads: "Sixty Million and more," by which Morrison refers to the estimated number of slaves who died in the slave trade.
In 1998 the novel was adapted into a film of the same name starring Oprah Winfrey. Morrison was commissioned to write the libretto on Garner's life for the opera Margaret Garner (2005).
A survey of writers and literary critics conducted by The New York Times found Beloved ranked as the best work of American fiction of the past 25 years; it garnered 15 of 125 votes, finishing ahead of Don DeLillo's Underworld (11 votes), Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian (8) and John Updike's Rabbit series (8).[1] The results appeared in The New York Times Book Review on May 21, 2006.[2]
Time Magazine included the novel in its TIME 100 Best English-language Novels from 1923 to 2005."...Show more →
monoatomic72 wrote:
he's selling himself more than his work. A lot of people could learn from that, maybe not going to the extreme that he does, but it's certainly a big part of this business.
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monoatomic72 wrote:
Again, someone selling you things you could learn for about 5 hours spent at your local library.
Exactly.
By the way....that reminded me of "Good Will Hunting" >>>
WILL (cont'd)
The sad thing is, in about 50 years
you might start doin' some thinkin' on
your own and by then you'll realize
there are only two certainties in life.
CLARK
Yeah? What're those?
WILL
One, don't do that. Two-- you dropped
a hundred and fifty grand on an
education you coulda' picked up for a
dollar fifty in late charges at the
Public Library.
