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p.41 #1 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Sony a7R III + smc Pentax-FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited

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Jan 17, 2021 at 10:47 PM
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p.41 #2 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


The Batis 2/40 CF produces a lot of Zeiss 3D pop
DSC06430 by Stefan Mieth, auf Flickr



Jan 18, 2021 at 12:51 AM
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p.41 #3 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


The dog almost looks photoshopped-in :-D


Jan 18, 2021 at 12:59 AM
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p.41 #4 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Great photos and insights here!

In my opinion, Luka ("denoir") was one of the best at showcasing the qualities of his lenses. He really made them sing... Luckily, his photos are still online, contrary to many images uploaded years ago and posted on the forum.

The so-called "3D" topic popped up in the Zeiss 35/1.4 image thread, especially when Luka started to post images made with his adapted Zeiss Distagon HFT for Rollei. I linked to the page where he started posting.

Some of his photos are "legendary" in the 3D/depth department. I selected a few, that are scattered in the aforementioned thread:
http://peltarion.eu/img/zeiss/rz35-132.jpg
http://peltarion.eu/img/zeiss/rz35-156.jpg
http://peltarion.eu/img/zeiss/rz35-193.jpg
http://peltarion.eu/img/zeiss/rz35-197.jpg
http://peltarion.eu/img/zeiss/rz35-200.jpg
http://peltarion.eu/img/zeiss/rz35-204.jpg
http://peltarion.eu/img/zeiss/rz35-210.jpg
http://peltarion.eu/img/zeiss/rz35-117.jpg

That last one is particularly incredible.

I briefly used this lens on a Sony A7r back in 2015 during a trip in the Pyrénées (France), before I switched back to a Nikon DSLR, and sold it.

The lens has character in spades, and shows spatial qualities stopped down as well. Look at this relatively planar scene shot at f/4. I don't know if this is "3D pop", but it's clearly not flat.



And those are wide open. The field curvature is massive and definitely contributes to the look.




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Jan 18, 2021 at 10:54 AM
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p.41 #5 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


EOS RP + C/Y Planar 50mm f/1.7.
Great little lens.








Feb 01, 2021 at 03:11 PM
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p.41 #6 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Fujinon GF 50/3.5 @ f/3.5. Sometimes it gives even more pop than the 45/2.8 because of smoother bokeh.

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Feb 01, 2021 at 05:11 PM
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p.41 #7 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Pop of Zeiss Batis 2/40 CF
(The dog was not processed)
DSC06430 by Stefan Mieth, auf Flickr

DSC06431-2 by Stefan Mieth, auf Flickr

DSC06507 by Stefan Mieth, auf Flickr

DSC04474-2 by Stefan Mieth, auf Flickr



Feb 02, 2021 at 09:34 AM
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p.41 #8 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


"Master of POP" Sel50f14z
DSC07566 by Stefan Mieth, auf Flickr



Feb 03, 2021 at 06:55 AM
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p.41 #9 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


I've been missing a 35mm for years now and finally got one. The Voigtländer 35mm f/1.7 Ultron seems to have quite a lot of pop to it.












































Feb 05, 2021 at 06:37 AM
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p.41 #10 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Fairly decent pop for a macro: SonyFE 90mm F2.8 Macro G OSS







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p.41 #11 · which lens has the most 3D POP?



Sigma 65/2 C


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Feb 05, 2021 at 07:43 AM
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p.41 #12 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


I still like the Loxia series, in this case the Loxia 35 stopped down only one stop to f/2.8. Contrary to some critics, I've use the lens wide open at f/2 with good results in contrast and subject isolation. I generally shoot the lens at f/8 for overall sharpness and DOF with scenery and buildings, but it performs well through its entire range.







Feb 05, 2021 at 09:52 AM
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p.41 #13 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


I find that the 40 Batis CF has the best 3d pop in the entire e-mount universe. Then nothing comes for a long time. Then comes the 50 Planar / 1.4 with the second best pop ... that's just my opinion. (See page 12; #7)
DSC08163 by Stefan Mieth, auf Flickr

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Feb 05, 2021 at 10:30 AM
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p.41 #14 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


lacksative wrote:
EOS RP + C/Y Planar 50mm f/1.7.
Great little lens.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50894350032_ec7ce642a5_o.jpg


Fantastic portrait !
Amazing 3D Pop here for me !
Really something special !



Feb 05, 2021 at 11:18 AM
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p.41 #15 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Long time lurker here. I thought I'd share some portraits with 3d pop with a lens I recently acquired, the Contax G 28mm F2.8 Biogon (+ 1500mm PCX filter) on a Sony A7r. Besides the usual attributes (microcontrast, DoF, bokeh quality, lighting) I think the 3d pop look is due in large part to the way a lens renders "highlights" (the shiny/sheen bits) in an image. It sort of tricks the brain into seeing volume where there is none (obviously, since images are 2d). The same trick is used by realist painters.

This first image is not particularly sharp, but the effect is visible due to the way the sheen on the jacket is rendered, also the bokeh is very gradual and smooth:



This one is much sharper, the texture in the neck and the fabric adds to the effect:




Feb 08, 2021 at 07:34 AM
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p.41 #16 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


m43hero wrote:

Long time lurker here. I thought I'd share some portraits with 3d pop with a lens I recently acquired, the Contax G 28mm F2.8 Biogon (+ 1500mm PCX filter) on a Sony A7r. Besides the usual attributes (microcontrast, DoF, bokeh quality, lighting) I think the 3d pop look is due in large part to the way a lens renders "highlights" (the shiny/sheen bits) in an image. It sort of tricks the brain into seeing volume where there is none (obviously, since images are 2d). The same trick is used by realist painters.

This first image is not particularly sharp, but the
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These two images did you do that purposely in post? the images you posted looks like they are shot behind a screen, a window screen. Look on top of each images why is that?




Feb 08, 2021 at 10:07 PM
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p.41 #17 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Hmm, just noticed that too. I think it's an issue with my processing chain. I sent the Sony ARW files through Adobe DNG Converter -> CornerFix (removes color cast/vignette) -> Affinity Photo (raw to jpeg conversion).

The CornerFix FAQ says its because of the Bayer de-mosaic process: https://sites.google.com/site/cornerfix/using-cornerfix/maze-patterns-1 Will need to investigate.



Feb 09, 2021 at 04:52 AM
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p.41 #18 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Some more samples from the Ultron 35/1.7

Latter one taken in quite a challenging light so not really popping too much.















Feb 09, 2021 at 09:32 AM
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p.41 #19 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


The keys to pulling off a 3D look are only partly due to the lens used...not necessarily even the biggest part.

Key contributors:

- DoF set to just encompass the subject

- Separation from background. For portraits, usually 8+ feet is minimum, farther the better

- Side lighting...this is key to partially wrap the subject to give it an offset from the scene

- Lens with decent bokeh and sharpness, more the better for each


Check out the snowmen in the post from HelenaN at this top of this page:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1255248/1875


Jim



Feb 09, 2021 at 08:33 PM
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p.41 #20 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


I've been through this thread dozens of times and I still have no idea what 3D pop is - I'm officially lost. Is it subject separation, micro contrast, supercontrast...or is it less lens dependent and more light and composition related. I can see some hint of 3D-ness in all of the following photos, albeit in very different ways... Which one actually has the most 3D pop? I have no idea.

























































Feb 09, 2021 at 09:17 PM
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