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Archive 2010 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ

  
 
Ernie Aubert
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p.1 #1 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


I'm not through yet; this is what I did today. Tripod, cable release, MLU, ISO 100, manual focus with live view, converted to JPEG from DPP, sharpness 7. I didn't notice till I saw them in DPP that I'd misaligned and got some wall on the right, but, to quote my brother, being basically lazy, I decided that these will have to do.

I haven't even had a close look at any of them yet; I haven't had time. I'm not sure just how much can be conveyed at these web sizes, to be sure, but here they are for whatever value they might have.

85L II @ f1.4:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/85L%20II%20at%20f1.4.JPG
Sigma @ f1.4:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/Sigma%20-%20f1.4.JPG
85L II @ f2:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/85L%20II%20at%20f2.JPG
Sigma @ f2:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/Sigma%20-%20f2.JPG
85L II @ f2.8:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/85L%20II%20at%20f2.8.JPG
Sigma @ f2.8:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/Sigma%20-%20f2.8.JPG
85L II @ f4:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/85L%20II%20at%20f4.JPG
Sigma @ f4:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/Sigma%20-%20f4.JPG
85L II @ f5.6:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/85L%20II%20at%20f5.6.JPG
Sigma @ f5.6:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/Sigma%20-%20f5.6.JPG
85L II @ f8:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/85L%20II%20at%20f8.JPG
Sigma @ f8:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/Sigma%20-%20f8.JPG
85L II @ f11:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/85L%20II%20at%20f11.JPG
Sigma @ f11:
http://photos.imageevent.com/bhakti_rider/miscelaneousstuff/sigma85f14vs85lii/Sigma%20-%20f11.JPG



Oct 15, 2010 at 05:28 PM
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p.1 #2 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


Ernie, thank you very much for posting these, but it would have been a whole lot more helpful if you posted crops


Oct 15, 2010 at 05:32 PM
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p.1 #3 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


Interesting. Sigma seems to be more contrasty to me.


Oct 15, 2010 at 05:33 PM
Ernie Aubert
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p.1 #4 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


vladik1980, I'll get to that; probably not from these particular shots, but something. I should have time to do that over the weekend. I just wanted to get something up as a next step...


Oct 15, 2010 at 05:45 PM
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p.1 #5 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


Might just be me, but the Siggy looks sharper & handles contrast better (offering more) being able to punch the darker shaded areas a bit deeper.

I'd give the first round of tests to the 85L, but this round for informal IQ goes to the Siggy.



Oct 15, 2010 at 05:52 PM
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p.1 #6 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


What? No brick wall shots. :>


Oct 15, 2010 at 05:53 PM
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p.1 #7 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


is it my imagination or does the simga seem a blacker black?


Oct 15, 2010 at 06:01 PM
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p.1 #8 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


The Sigma results do not appear contrastier but they are just darker. I don't know how the test was done but it seems like the resulting shutter speed using the various aperture settings varied between the two lenses.


Oct 15, 2010 at 06:23 PM
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p.1 #9 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


Since these are not 100% crops, not much can be discerned with regards to sharpness.

One thing is clear though: the Sigma 85mm field of view is quite a bit wider than the Canon 85mm field of view. I believe the Sigma 50mm suffered from the same flaw. It's probably an indication that the Sigma 85mm suffers from more severe focus breathing than the Canon 85L does.



Oct 15, 2010 at 06:43 PM
Ernie Aubert
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p.1 #10 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


stargazer78, it's not quite that straightforward. The Sigma focuses a bit closer, maybe an inch or two, no more, so I had to move the tripod back a tad when I mounted the L. That difference is a contributing factor.


Oct 15, 2010 at 06:48 PM
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p.1 #11 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


Man the Sig looks pretty darn good


Oct 15, 2010 at 06:54 PM
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p.1 #12 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


I have to agree that at web size the Sigma looks pretty good -- especially since the Canon is stopped down an extra stop in comparison. Bonus that the Sigma also focusses closer. Now it just needs a nickname...
Paul



Oct 15, 2010 at 06:57 PM
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p.1 #13 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


How about compare to the Samyang/vivitar/Rokinon 85mm 1.4 ? That lens only cost $250 and it has very nice bokeh


Oct 15, 2010 at 07:00 PM
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p.1 #14 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


^ Its a MF lens, at that point you'd have to throw in the 85 1.8 as well.

Someone will eventually do it, but most people looking for a high end 85mm, will now be looking at the Sigma 1.4 and the 1.2L II/I.



Oct 15, 2010 at 07:14 PM
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p.1 #15 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


AGeoJO wrote:
The Sigma results do not appear contrastier but they are just darker.


Exactly right. As for the images, its impossible to tell anything without crops as far as resolution goes.



Oct 15, 2010 at 09:03 PM
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p.1 #16 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


Ernie Aubert wrote:
stargazer78, it's not quite that straightforward. The Sigma focuses a bit closer, maybe an inch or two, no more, so I had to move the tripod back a tad when I mounted the L. That difference is a contributing factor.




Ah.... I didn't realize you moved the tripod between shots. But if you moved the tripod back when you mounted the "L"... doesn't that mean that the Sigma field of view is even wider than the photos seem to indicate?




Oct 15, 2010 at 09:08 PM
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p.1 #17 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


Sigma looks to have better sharpness. Never have been disapointed with my Sigma primes as far as any aspect of IQ. most of all the total lack of CA. Great performers as long as that little switch on the lens barrel is set to M instead of AF. Sigmas in general have good contrast and color saturation and I have retroed my self to use manual focus as in the days when I started in photography. Thanks for spending and taking the time from your schedule to share with us. Will take a closer look at this Siggy in the future because of these tests..Bruce


Oct 15, 2010 at 09:26 PM
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p.1 #18 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


Post some crops already!!!

Those files are PERFECT to show crops, please please please just post crops already.



Oct 16, 2010 at 02:50 AM
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p.1 #19 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


brucem48 wrote:
Sigma looks to have better sharpness. Never have been disapointed with my Sigma primes as far as any aspect of IQ. most of all the total lack of CA. Great performers as long as that little switch on the lens barrel is set to M instead of AF. Sigmas in general have good contrast and color saturation and I have retroed my self to use manual focus as in the days when I started in photography. Thanks for spending and taking the time from your schedule to share with us. Will take a closer look at this Siggy in the
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Maybe the QC has gone down the drain{pipe} with time at Sigma's but my 14 has been a delight to use. No AF issues. Guess the norma / telephoto lenses tend to have more problems in this regard...

Their 85 does look pretty good, big thumbs up to Sigma.



Oct 16, 2010 at 03:11 AM
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p.1 #20 · Sigma 85 vs 85L II, round 2 - IQ


stargazer78 wrote:
Since these are not 100% crops, not much can be discerned with regards to sharpness.

One thing is clear though: the Sigma 85mm field of view is quite a bit wider than the Canon 85mm field of view. I believe the Sigma 50mm suffered from the same flaw. It's probably an indication that the Sigma 85mm suffers from more severe focus breathing than the Canon 85L does.


Sigma 50 has been shown to be 48mm, so I guess 85 is probably closer to 80mm.

Sigma looks better in these shots.



Oct 16, 2010 at 03:19 AM
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