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p.10 #1 · Fuji X100 APS-C Rangefinder !


The port cover on the grip side of the camera doesn't look that well thought out. Photos of the camera on the Fuji site look great, but the CNET images IMO give it a more realistic appearance - that of a consumer product. The metal looks a bit cheap, as does the leatherette finish. I suppose though that it will be best to make this kind of assessment in person.


Sep 20, 2010 at 07:36 PM
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$1700 sounds just right! If it were an $800 camera you'd never see that much metal or that type viewfinder. Not that I'd mind if it were cheaper, but with all the begging for this type of camera it's entertaining to see the complaining about the price. What were you expecting? If it's too expensive get the NEX. Everyone wins.

I'm stopping my search for a clean Minolta CLE, this camera is a really good sign for what's to come.



Sep 20, 2010 at 07:43 PM
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rscheffler wrote:
The port cover on the grip side of the camera doesn't look that well thought out. Photos of the camera on the Fuji site look great, but the CNET images IMO give it a more realistic appearance - that of a consumer product. The metal looks a bit cheap, as does the leatherette finish. I suppose though that it will be best to make this kind of assessment in person.



It's not in production yet so hopefully that accounts for the quality of the display model. The look of this camera does remind me more of the "cheap" fixed lens japanese cameras of the seventies with optical finders (Canon QL series and particularly the Yashica GSN) more then expensive, high end stuff such as the Konica RF mentioned earlier. In particuarl, the flared, rounded areas in the metal near the finder and the top of the grip are design cues that I associate with these earlier cameras. I think the fuji would have looked better/more expensive if it was more angular in these areas. The top deck looks very nice/solid for instance.



Sep 20, 2010 at 07:47 PM
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p.10 #4 · Fuji X100 APS-C Rangefinder !


I couldn't seem to find whether this camera had manual focus at all, but this picture seems to confirm that it does.

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/.a/6a00df351e888f88340133f467d0eb970b-popup


Note the MF / AF-C / AF-S switch. That switch wasn't visible on other photos, and there doesn't seem to be any hint of MF in the press release.

EDIT: sorry, not sure how to make that photo come up here (linked from "theonlinephotographer" by the way), but the link works fine at least.



Sep 20, 2010 at 08:05 PM
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
It's not in production yet so hopefully that accounts for the quality of the display model. The look of this camera does remind me more of the "cheap" fixed lens japanese cameras of the seventies with optical finders (Canon QL series and particularly the Yashica GSN) more then expensive, high end stuff such as the Konica RF mentioned earlier. In particuarl, the flared, rounded areas in the metal near the finder and the top of the grip are design cues that I associate with these earlier cameras. I think the fuji would have looked better/more expensive if it was
...Show more

I agree, it's preproduction and too early to tell... and yes, it looks to me more like a Canon or Yashica from the 70s than a Leica.

Ron



Sep 20, 2010 at 08:17 PM
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Note the MF / AF-C / AF-S switch. That switch wasn't visible on other photos, and there doesn't seem to be any hint of MF in the press release.

From the photos and pdf it looks like the the X100 can be manually focused from the lens. In OVF mode there is a distance scale (in the VF) for zone focussing and in EVF mode you can see dof because it sees through the lens (which I assume it keeps wide open until you shoot), so MF works the same way as an SLR. The thumbwheel in the back of the top plate is not for focusing, it is a mode dial.



Sep 20, 2010 at 08:21 PM
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p.10 #7 · Fuji X100 APS-C Rangefinder !


ChrisDM wrote:
Conversely the fixed fast lens is what took my desire from level 8 to level 11... A zoom lens would compromise speed, image quality, and size.


but a changeable lens mount and lineup of primes wouldn't which for this money seems a significant miss.



Sep 20, 2010 at 11:01 PM
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Regarding why this camera is fixed lens I speculated yesterday (in part):

I get the feeling that Fuji are sniffing out the market with this camera, and if sales and customer satisfaction are positive, they’ll consider either releasing another model with a different focal length or maybe going the full monty and releasing an interchangeable system. [...] But I’m afraid it’s not going to make Fuji enough money for them to believe they can roll out a full interchangeable lens system based on the concept, which is a shame because that’s exactly what most people would have liked them to do.

Then today I read on Falk Lumo's Photokina post about his chat with the Fuji guys at the booth:

I asked why not with a lens mount? Answer: We want see how this one sells first. I asked: but you know that if this version does not sell it may be because it has no mount? Answer: no, is it so...?




Sep 20, 2010 at 11:50 PM
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" People want back the options that they used to have with film cameras, thats all. Small full frame cameras with buil-in optical finders, you used to be able to get one for $200."

with respect, is ^this not simply a form of nostalgic thinking too? and does the X100 still not deliver these "options" you mention, with no FF sensor (in a field seeing more and more APS-C compact offerings), no interchangeable lens mount, and coming in at 7 times the price of the referenced "$200 compact camera"? but it looks the look, i suppose...

please don't get me wrong - i'm very much for manufacturers attempting at this type of camera. there's just something (to me) deceptively clever about the X100's styling in contrast to its price and preliminary specs that screams

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ymmv - cheers.



Sep 21, 2010 at 01:54 AM
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It is a beautiful camera and a innovative classic.

Much as I applaud it I am not comfortable with the 35mm angle of view and prefer wider.

I would hope for a full frame equivalent of 28mm (or 24/25mm) version in the near future. APS-C sensor would do nicely. I would be all over it.

Still, if this is where things are heading the future does look bright.



Sep 21, 2010 at 03:10 AM
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p.10 #11 · Fuji X100 APS-C Rangefinder !


Is anyone else concerned about the viewfinder being only 90%?


Sep 21, 2010 at 04:21 AM
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bakka303 wrote:
Is anyone else concerned about the viewfinder being only 90%?


No, that's normal for this type of viewfinder. The frame will be fixed in size, and while the angle of view changes with focus distance, you have to compromize. If exact framing is wanted, you'll probably get it in the EVF mode.



Sep 21, 2010 at 04:40 AM
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It is 90% only when you switch to EVF. In the OVF mode it is 150% or whatever because you can see outside the frame, just like an RF.

Abam why is it nostalgia to say that I want a viewfinder in my camera? Thats like saying if I was born without a leg I wouldnt miss it, therefore a leg is a useless thing to have and people who want legs are nostalgic. Or maybe I misunderstood what you said... Anyway personally I couldnt care less what it looks like, I just want a hole made of real optical glass that I can put my eye against and see through and some way of focusing while looking through the said hole that doesnt involve some silly motor going bzzt-bzzt, making its own decisions and failing in bad light. You are right, its funny that someone who is not into DSLRs has to pay $1,700 for something so simple, or stick with film.



Sep 21, 2010 at 05:23 AM
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p.10 #14 · Fuji X100 APS-C Rangefinder !


fuji aiming for a $1k price! this doesnt have super ccd tech or have i missed somthing?


Sep 21, 2010 at 05:50 AM
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Makten wrote:
No, that's normal for this type of viewfinder. The frame will be fixed in size, and while the angle of view changes with focus distance, you have to compromize. If exact framing is wanted, you'll probably get it in the EVF mode.


I think the video from engadget shows switching from OVF to EVF. It looked like the edges were cropped off in EVF so OVF would be full framing. No idea why they did it like this.



Sep 21, 2010 at 05:57 AM
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p.10 #16 · Fuji X100 APS-C Rangefinder !




Fujifilm has just confirmed that its FinePix X100 will retail from March at around $1000

Edited on Sep 21, 2010 at 06:02 AM · View previous versions



Sep 21, 2010 at 05:58 AM
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p.10 #17 · Fuji X100 APS-C Rangefinder !


bakka303 wrote:
Just been announced $999!! Now i'm interested...


Got a link for that?



Sep 21, 2010 at 06:01 AM
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p.10 #18 · Fuji X100 APS-C Rangefinder !


I just got it via BJP's twitter feed,who are at Photokina.(British Journal of Photography)

1854

Fujifilm has just confirmed that its FinePix X100 will retail from March at around $1000: http://bit.ly/FinePix-X100 #photography #fujifilm
about 1 hour ago via Tweetie for Mac



Sep 21, 2010 at 06:03 AM
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p.10 #19 · Fuji X100 APS-C Rangefinder !


bakka303....where did you see that announcement?


Sep 21, 2010 at 06:05 AM
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On my Twitter via 1854(BJP)


Sep 21, 2010 at 06:08 AM
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