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p.3 #1 · Glen Beck Rally

"Patriotism is the last best refuge of a scoundrel" Thomas Jefferson
"Ignorance is bliss" author unknown, but it applies to these people.

Sep 07, 2010 at 06:15 PM

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p.3 #2 · Glen Beck Rally

I thought it was "Restoring Honor"!

"I went to the National Archives, and I held the first inaugural address written in his own hand by George Washington," Beck said, which was of course a lie.

That's your idea of restoring honor? I think we can and should do better.

PS: I think you did a good job with the images though.

Sep 07, 2010 at 06:30 PM

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p.3 #3 · Glen Beck Rally

Nah, Clinton couldn't have done it. He was diddling an intern

tony

Sep 07, 2010 at 07:12 PM

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p.3 #4 · Glen Beck Rally

Bop,

You should see: http://www.mathieuyoung.com/gallery/TB/ to see another photographer who covered a "Tea Partie Ralleye" here in California.

Fresno, to be exact.

Sep 07, 2010 at 08:41 PM

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p.3 #5 · Glen Beck Rally

veroman wrote:
Nothing. Nothing whatsoever. But whatever happened to separation of Church & State?

The rally was held in Washington, DC (about as political as it gets), and Glen Beck is a prominent political commentator, among other things. Whatever happened to the inclusion of people who don't believe in a supreme being? Two leading scientists ... world renowned in fact ... who have explored the mysteries of the universe for their entire lives have said (and I paraphrase somewhat), "It's quite clear that to believe in God or some form of supreme being in this day and age, when the depths of the...Show more →

Thank you Veroman....well said

Sep 07, 2010 at 09:01 PM

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p.3 #6 · Glen Beck Rally

Cheap shots and 5 second media grabs are far easier to sell than rational arguments. Politics today whether it is in Australia or it appears the USA too is now a race to the lowest common denominator
That is what we all really have to worry about
Like your pics. Good work
Tim

Sep 07, 2010 at 11:57 PM

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p.3 #7 · Glen Beck Rally

Photos are great. Would have loved to have gone.
My 2 cents.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody any-thing that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the begin-ning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."* * Adrian Rogers, 1931-2005

Sep 08, 2010 at 07:57 PM

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p.3 #8 · Glen Beck Rally

The pics aren't bad, but I don't get the sense of engagement or excitement I would have hoped for. They seem pretty static. But, technically decent.

bop gun wrote:
MSNBC estimated the crowd at 300,000; therefore, double that and you probably are approaching the accurate number.

The total attendence has been reliably confirmed to have been well under 100,000, FYI.

Sep 08, 2010 at 08:09 PM

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p.3 #9 · Glen Beck Rally

Todd Adamson wrote:
The pics aren't bad, but I don't get the sense of engagement or excitement I would have hoped for. They seem pretty static. But, technically decent.

The total attendence has been reliably confirmed to have been well under 100,000, FYI.

Care to tell who "reliably confirmed" this? You have a cite maybe?

Sep 09, 2010 at 05:24 PM

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p.3 #10 · Glen Beck Rally

troy12n wrote:
The very first picture speaks volumes about this "movement"

They are a bunch of misguided closet racists and ignorant people.
I'll compare my degree(s) and very (immediate) multicultural family to yours any day you want to step up to the plate sir. I was there and I take offense to your ignorance.
To the OP, very nice set of photos sir. I went to the Vietnam Memorial while I was there as well. Its hard not to be moved.

Sep 09, 2010 at 05:43 PM

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p.3 #11 · Glen Beck Rally

troy12n wrote:
The very first picture speaks volumes about this "movement"

They are a bunch of misguided closet racists and ignorant people.

You're my hero troy! Well said!!

Sep 09, 2010 at 08:49 PM

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p.3 #12 · Glen Beck Rally

markperez wrote:
You're my hero troy! Well said!!
Let me get this straight, a young boy holding AMERICAN flags and wearing a US MARINES shirt makes him and other patriots racists and ignorant? And by this guy spewing his stool sample on an otherwise respectable forum, makes him your hero? Tell me how close I am on this next prediction. You're other "hero's" include Che Guevara, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, Karl Marx and any other communist mas murderer who happens to be in vogue with the current "I want everything for free society"? This country is in a world of trouble; to find the symptoms, take a look in the mirror. I pray for my country.

Sep 09, 2010 at 09:30 PM

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p.3 #13 · Glen Beck Rally

Karl Marx, mass-murderer? Pol Pot, I'll grant you that one.

But crass generalizations and the demonizing of those you don't agree with - be they conservative or liberal - is simplistic. Society isn't black and white, now matter how many stories that might sell.

Listen, these sorts of events should be covered in some format, film, video, etc. because they are an important window on our society and serve to memorialize certain events. All coverage is biased, to some degree, but I think in a photojournalistic sense, the key is to attempt to communicate the zeitgeist, without becoming an apparatchik of any particulary ideology. Communicate, visually. Let the subject matter speak for itself.

I'm fatigued on demagoguery in real life as well as reading it in forums, can we please just stay on program here? Photography, please? Be it photojournalistic concept, reportage, art, craft, technique, etc.

Or hell, we could even talk about gear! Like the gigapan setup at Obama's inauguration...

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Sep 10, 2010 at 12:35 AM

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p.3 #14 · Glen Beck Rally

sirimiri wrote:
Karl Marx, mass-murderer? Pol Pot, I'll grant you that one.

But crass generalizations and the demonizing of those you don't agree with - be they conservative or liberal - is simplistic. Society isn't black and white, now matter how many stories that might sell.

Listen, these sorts of events should be covered in some format, film, video, etc. because they are an important window on our society and serve to memorialize certain events. All coverage is biased, to some degree, but I think in a photojournalistic sense, the key is to attempt to communicate the zeitgeist, without becoming an apparatchik of any...Show more →
Karl Marx was included because of the Millions of people killed in the name of his ideology. Did he pull the trigger himself? No, I will give you that but in his own words:
"The classes and the races too weak to master the new conditions of life must give way� They must perish in the revolutionary holocaust"
- Karl Marx ( Marx People�s Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981 )
If onefollows this ideology, then mass murder is justified.
I agree with you on all other points, this is a photo forum and I would love to stick to the subject matter. But when I come across a post calling me (and others like me) Ignorant, misguided and a racist, I will respond. The racist term has been cheapened by the weak minded to the point that when they can't argue a specific point, they just throw it out as a last resort. Out of respect for this fine forum, I hope we CAN return to the subject matter.

Sep 10, 2010 at 05:06 AM

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p.3 #15 · Glen Beck Rally

This thread has no made it into the media (or at least the blogosphere):

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/09/separation_of_religion_and_pol.html

Sep 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM

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p.3 #16 · Glen Beck Rally

First of all his name is spelled Glenn. Two nn's.

Second of all.....check out this superb video of the rally with participant interviews:

" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Click here to watch the video.

Sep 12, 2010 at 08:00 PM

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p.3 #17 · Glen Beck Rally

justahobby wrote:
The total attendence has been reliably confirmed to have been well under 100,000, FYI.
Care to tell who "reliably confirmed" this? You have a cite maybe?

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2010/0830/Glenn-Beck-rally-attendance-calculating-how-many-really-showed-up

Christian Science Monitor; so I hope you wont have any objections. Anyway, the counting firm hired to estimate the crow said 78-96 thousand.

Beck's permit was for 300k, that is not how many people showed up.

I want to point out that Beck's current shtick is an act. I used to listen to him on the radio in Houston, he isn't anything like what he pretends to be on tv (which is a crazy person). In fact, out of all the radio personalities that clear channel carried, him and his friend Pat Gray were easily the most moderate.

To the person who's terrible logic has placed the blame for the murder of millions on Karl Marx, the same logic could put blame on Frederich Nietzsche for the holocaust. Additionally, read some Marx before you talk. Das Kapital was extremely well written and thought out and the man knew more about economics than nearly anyone at the time and certainly more than someone whose only education on the subject comes from a college principles course. Granted, I don't think he was right about the whole communism thing, but he was a lot more right than people want to give him credit for. He was an honest to goodness trained Political Economist and was as important and influential as David Ricardo, Adam Smith and Thomas Malthus (all of whom continue to have a lingering effect in advanced [read: graduate level] economic study).

Sep 12, 2010 at 08:26 PM

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p.3 #18 · Glen Beck Rally

Tom K. wrote:
First of all his name is spelled Glenn. Two nn's.

Second of all.....check out this superb video of the rally with participant interviews:

" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Click here to watch the video.

Tom,

I guess my misspelling of his first name feeds right in to your opinion of those at the rally as a bunch of dumb yokels, as evidenced by your sneaky little link of a "superb video", as seen on The Huffington Post, correct?

Take one young wet-behind-the-ears "reporter" with a microphone still with a buzz from the hopeandchange-aid, some selective editing, and voila, there you have it, irrefutable evidence of the racist idiocy of the modern conservative.

The mocking of the good citizens at the rally and of the resurgent conservative movement (tea partiers if you will) by the left is revolting and desperate.

I can only imagine the horrors of an unedited video of a reporter questioning those at Al Sharpton's rally. Would that be an accurate portrayal of your views, Tom? That kid didn't stick his microphone in my face, but I can assure you that if he did that clip would've hit the editing room floor faster than Chris Matthews at a frat party.

Actually, Tom, perhaps you'd like to specifically enlighten us on your views of the wonders of modern liberalism. I won't hold my breath. I've yet to see a reasoned intellectual argument for progressivism/statism from those leading the movement, so why would I expect one from you.

No, wait, as a matter of fact, no such argument exists in America. If liberalism works, Tom and all you other leftists on this board, then why isn't it working? As the journalist David Warren recently stated, "Thanks to democracy, and the power of "the people," under the inspiration of demagogues, to appropriate each other's wealth, there seems no chance of a smooth disposition." Progressivism/statism only leads to misery, as is so apparent today and has been throughout history, to those willing to open their eyes and ears.

Conservatism is the only antidote to this soft tyranny, as coined by Tocqueville, that we are currently experiencing.

I never used to understand all of you liberal drones, until I read a quote from Eric Hoffer, who stated brilliantly that "those who see their lives as spoiled and wasted crave equality and fraternity more than they do freedom. If they clamor for freedom, it is but freedom to establish quality and uniformity. The passion for equality is partly a passion for anonymity: to be one thread of the many which make up a tunic; one thread not distinguishable from the others. No one can then point us out, measure us against others and expose our inferiority."

Boom.

Roasted.

Sep 13, 2010 at 07:30 AM

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p.3 #19 · Glen Beck Rally

pmcmanis wrote:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2010/0830/Glenn-Beck-rally-attendance-calculating-how-many-really-showed-up

Christian Science Monitor; so I hope you wont have any objections. Anyway, the counting firm hired to estimate the crow said 78-96 thousand.

Beck's permit was for 300k, that is not how many people showed up.

I want to point out that Beck's current shtick is an act. I used to listen to him on the radio in Houston, he isn't anything like what he pretends to be on tv (which is a crazy person). In fact, out of all the radio personalities that clear channel carried, him and his friend Pat Gray were easily the most moderate.

To the person who's...Show more →

So in your misguided logic, since you admire his economics he bears no responsibility for his other theories and the slaughter of others who are less "fit"? Along those lines you could argue that Adolf Hitler and the Nazi's should be given credit for bringing the Germans out of the depression in the 1930's after the dissolution of the Reichstag. So Hitler and his band of murderers should be given credit while ignoring the fact that they (and their ideology) were responsible for the murder of millions?
There were many smart men that were responsible for mass murder; Ted Bundy had an IQ (depending on sources) of 123 - 139 & Theodore Kaczynski AKA the UnaBomber scored a 165. Does then, brain power or their writings exempt them from nefarious acts or (in the case of Marx or Hitler) from the violence that their ideology mandated? I don't think so. The fact that so many people such as yourself cannot connect the dots, is somewhat confusing to me.
Lastly, one thing I have learned over the years is that no amount of back and forth on the internet is going to change anyone's mind or political beliefs. For this reason, I will respectfully bow out of this conversation and respect the original intent of this forum; photography. I will continue to pray for our country in the mean time. We need it..

Sep 13, 2010 at 07:55 AM

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p.3 #20 · Glen Beck Rally

bop gun wrote:
If liberalism works, Tom and all you other leftists on this board, then why isn't it working?

Nothing anyone could post would ever change your deluded view of history where Reagan did not cause the debt to literally explode, George W. Bush was not president during TWO recessions, Bill Clinton was somehow not responsible for the massive GDP growth during ther 1990s but the only reduction in debt as a percent of GDP since your boy Reagan, and Richard Nixon was the most Keynesian president since Roosevelt.

Liberalism does work. Nixon is the PERFECT example of a man who had to face reality at some point and quit pretending that the crap he ran on was anything more than appeasement to his base.

Boom.

Roasted.

statements like that make you look so wise.

p.s. there are loads of conservative economists. strangely, none of their arguments line up with what modern conservatives not trained in economics think is effective economic policy.

So in your misguided logic, since you admire his economics he bears no responsibility for his other theories and the slaughter of others who are less "fit"?

you suffer from perhaps the worst case of relativism I have ever seen.

when did I say I admire his economics? what I said was he is important in modern economics, which is true. you can try to argue with me about that, but it just makes you look silly.

Sep 13, 2010 at 09:00 AM

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