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The big deal is that when you first start out you buy an APS format camera. Many folk then go on to buy EF non L lenses (35mm, 50mm, 85mm, 70-300mm) in the knowledge that should they wish to change to FF later the lenses will work there too. Ok, a lot of us also buy L lenses too (17-40mm, 70-200mm), but these tend to be the affordable ones. With canon phasing out EF, those first 4 become redundant, and its clear that new L's are going to cost a massive amount more than their predecessors, which makes them unobtainable for a lot of hobbyists: The direction is obviously that APS camera owners should buy EF-S lenses, with the L stuff priced like platinum to maintain some sort of exclusivity. The problem with this is that those of us wanting to upgrade our APS to FF will either have to swallow the enormous L prices from the outset (which no new hobbyist is going to do) or pay a fortune for new lenses when we do upgrade, which of course makes the upgrade impossible for many people who can currently do so.
I don't think this is such a good deal from the Pro perspective either. It may impose some exclusivity which separates Pros from the "great unwashed", but it will possibly pull the bottom out of the residual market too - who do you think buys used 5D's, 1D's and L lenses? I think depreciation on these lenses and cameras will be higher than previously.
Nobo, your profile lists you with a Rebel XSi plus an expensive collection of lenses. It looks like a textbook example of someone who started out photography from the cheap end and then decided they liked it and wanted to do more. Would you have bought a 100-400 L if it cost twice as much? Likewise the TS-E and MP-E? Under this new direction you are directly affected, whether you like it or not. Canon don't seem to want people like you buying lenses like these....Show more →
Let's view it from Canon's perspective. First and foremost, they're in business to make money. If they think they're still making profit out of those non-L EF lenses, they will continue to supply those lenses. I really doubt that they'll abandon those lenses totally since there still are 3rd party lenses that people would buy if there's no more non-L EF lenses, ie. Canon can't force people to buy an L. Case in point, the 100mm macro is still around despite the L version being made.
Secondly, how much better can these non-L lenses be updated without cannibalising the L's sales? If I was Canon, I'd just leave them as they are since they seem to be good enough for non-professional use. If there's ever an update, it'd be because I found a way to make them cheaper to manufacture. 
Don't worry, everything will balance out. If Canon price becomes ridiculous, people will hang on to their lenses or change system to Nikon or something else. Either way Canon will start seeing a drop in profit and in turn, they'll have to adjust their price.
As for my lens collection, the only non-L EF lenses I've bought were the 50/1.8 and 100 macro, which I've sold. I wouldn't even count the MP-E, L or not it's an even more specialised lens than those TS-Es and Fisheyes.
If they make an L version of the MP-E that can focus down to 1:2, has 8+ circular diaphragm blades for better highlight bokeh AND hybrid IS to help stabilise the Viewfinder at high magnification, I would buy it even if it costs twice as much.
My point is, it really depends on what Canon's offering at the price point. Even when a lens update cost 3 times as much, if it has something that people really want or need, they'll buy it.
Back to topic, no update on the 500L and 600L info? They're the only ones without any specs and MTF. I want to know how much lighter they are compared to the older version.
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Finally gave up and never got the question answered.
