Wonderful stuff all, esp. Edwards I always love you raw street scenes and cityscapes!
Thanks Ron
Yes the difficulty for me is the iso esp. in a very dark church or outdoors in the evening. Pushing iso on the MM causes banding on some of my shots, esp. in the darks and shadows, but the M I had no banding issues. I tried a Bescor adjustable led light panel for lighting and it seemed to work very well for me, but the weight made it top heavy somewhat, but it was worth it for some of the images I took.
I tried to make my PP flow with the DSLR I had also, and yes it was quite difficult for me as well, even B and W's for both PP looked totally different than what I expected, I def. prefer the Leica rendering over the DSLR thats for sure!
Ron >>>> Jawad, ... I wonder if a lower angle with more of a reflection of the boy in the table would have worked? But with kids, it's difficult to keep them in one spot for long.
You are right, it would be better. I tried a few things while he was there. This one does not have his reflection but it has a bit more context:
Hi there!
Just traded my X100S and an SLR lens for an M8 second hand, since I like the 35 FOV I added an used 28/2,8 III serie. What a joy focusing through a real rangefinder! Hope I'll improve my shots with this beautiful camera in my hands!
I got a 90 cron from a FMer here a few days ago, and mounted a 1.4 mag on it, love the lens, but my keeper rate has drop, I usually shoot 28, 35, 50 most of the time with higher keeper rate
It is the same on my M and MM keeper wise so I am thinking maybe it's my technique, for awhile I was thinking it was front focusing, but it seems the more I use it in decent light the better I will be acclimated to the focal length
Def. seems a bit harder to use a 90 than I thought originally? Any tips on this would be greatly appreciated! I also am near sighted and don't use my glasses ever when I shoot, wonder if thats the issue
I don't have the 90 cron but I use the Sonnar 85. After having the lens adjusted, my keeper rate is close to 100% on stationary subjects. However, my accuracy suffered a lot when I used the 1.4x magnifier. I know it doesn't make sense but this is what happened and I was very glad to get rid of the magnifier. My keeper rate is back to 100%.
jojomon11 wrote:
Question for 90 lens users
I got a 90 cron from a FMer here a few days ago, and mounted a 1.4 mag on it, love the lens, but my keeper rate has drop, I usually shoot 28, 35, 50 most of the time with higher keeper rate
It is the same on my M and MM keeper wise so I am thinking maybe it's my technique, for awhile I was thinking it was front focusing, but it seems the more I use it in decent light the better I will be acclimated to the focal length
Def. seems a bit harder to use a 90 than I thought originally? Any tips on this would be greatly appreciated! I also am near sighted and don't use my glasses ever when I shoot, wonder if thats the issue
atwl77 wrote:
Thanks Ron, also another great set you just posted. Love the colors and the skin tones for the last two. The lower contrast was a post processing choice, the lens is almost perfect save for the starry bokeh highlights due to the inward-curving aperture blades.
Adam, have you tried not zooming into the picture while the camera is still accessing the card (indicator light blinking)? In my experience, the magenta cast only appears on the 3rd zoom level, and I notice the camera usually takes a longer time to process the operation between the 2nd to 3rd zoom level, compared to the first two levels of zoom. So maybe some processor- (or card-)intensive operation is going on during this time and it is best to let the camera work before issuing more commands to it....Show more →
Maybe that's my problem, but honestly the magenta cast doesn't really bother me.. I'm still able to check focus, and that's all I really use the screen for anyway.. And even then, only when the subject is moving, or something didn't feel right.
I don't have the 90 cron but I use the Sonnar 85. After having the lens adjusted, my keeper rate is close to 100% on stationary subjects. However, my accuracy suffered a lot when I used the 1.4x magnifier. I know it doesn't make sense but this is what happened and I was very glad to get rid of the magnifier. My keeper rate is back to 100%.
jojomon11 wroteQuestion for 90 lens users
I got a 90 cron from a FMer here a few days ago, and mounted a 1.4 mag on it, love the lens, but my keeper rate has drop, I usually shoot 28, 35, 50 most of the time with higher keeper rate
It is the same on my M and MM keeper wise so I am thinking maybe it's my technique, for awhile I was thinking it was front focusing, but it seems the more I use it in decent light the better I will be acclimated to the focal length
Def. seems a bit harder to use a 90 than I thought originally? Any tips on this would be greatly appreciated! I also am near sighted and don't use my glasses ever when I shoot, wonder if thats the issue
Should have got a 75
Phil
Wow Edwards, that doesn't make sense I will def. give that a try, if it works you will be my hero
I got a 90 cron from a FMer here a few days ago, and mounted a 1.4 mag on it, love the lens, but my keeper rate has drop, I usually shoot 28, 35, 50 most of the time with higher keeper rate
It is the same on my M and MM keeper wise so I am thinking maybe it's my technique, for awhile I was thinking it was front focusing, but it seems the more I use it in decent light the better I will be acclimated to the focal length
Def. seems a bit harder to use a 90 than I thought originally? Any tips on this would be greatly appreciated! I also am near sighted and don't use my glasses ever when I shoot, wonder if thats the issue
Honestly, I have the same problem with all the 90mm lenses I've owned.. Really tricky to focus, became very hit or miss for me (90 tele-elmarit E39 was easiest to focus on distant subjects, and not because of the increased DOF)..
The 75APO has a much much higher keeper rate then the 90 APO for me.
I guess if you're using the M240 get yourself the EVF. I have good luck with it. Though to be honest, it's much slower then the Optical RF (found that out surprisingly while shooting the Noctilux in Tokyo [after the RF was fixed of course]).
I'll add that I have the 1.25x(?) magnifier, and I find it very troublesome.
nibutto wrote:
Hi there!
Just traded my X100S and an SLR lens for an M8 second hand, since I like the 35 FOV I added an used 28/2,8 III serie. What a joy focusing through a real rangefinder! Hope I'll improve my shots with this beautiful camera in my hands!
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Congratulations. The M8 is a wonderful image making machine. Wonderful.
You bring the vision, that is the sole condition. The M8 shall make it for you.
adamdewilde wrote: jojomon11 wroteQuestion for 90 lens users
I got a 90 cron from a FMer here a few days ago, and mounted a 1.4 mag on it, love the lens, but my keeper rate has drop, I usually shoot 28, 35, 50 most of the time with higher keeper rate
It is the same on my M and MM keeper wise so I am thinking maybe it's my technique, for awhile I was thinking it was front focusing, but it seems the more I use it in decent light the better I will be acclimated to the focal length
Def. seems a bit harder to use a 90 than I thought originally? Any tips on this would be greatly appreciated! I also am near sighted and don't use my glasses ever when I shoot, wonder if thats the issue
Should have got a 75
PhilHonestly, I have the same problem with all the 90mm lenses I've owned.. Really tricky to focus, became very hit or miss for me (90 tele-elmarit E39 was easiest to focus on distant subjects, and not because of the increased DOF)..
The 75APO has a much much higher keeper rate then the 90 APO for me.
I guess if you're using the M240 get yourself the EVF. I have good luck with it. Though to be honest, it's much slower then the Optical RF (found that out surprisingly while shooting the Noctilux in Tokyo [after the RF was fixed of course]).
I'll add that I have the 1.25x(?) magnifier, and I find it very troublesome. ...Show more →
Thanks Adam,
When I followed Edwards advise, my hit rate went back up to 90% plus! Pretty stoked with the 90 now
I don't have the 90 cron but I use the Sonnar 85. After having the lens adjusted, my keeper rate is close to 100% on stationary subjects. However, my accuracy suffered a lot when I used the 1.4x magnifier. I know it doesn't make sense but this is what happened and I was very glad to get rid of the magnifier. My keeper rate is back to 100%.
jojomon11 wroteQuestion for 90 lens users
I got a 90 cron from a FMer here a few days ago, and mounted a 1.4 mag on it, love the lens, but my keeper rate has drop, I usually shoot 28, 35, 50 most of the time with higher keeper rate
It is the same on my M and MM keeper wise so I am thinking maybe it's my technique, for awhile I was thinking it was front focusing, but it seems the more I use it in decent light the better I will be acclimated to the focal length
Def. seems a bit harder to use a 90 than I thought originally? Any tips on this would be greatly appreciated! I also am near sighted and don't use my glasses ever when I shoot, wonder if thats the issue
Should have got a 75
Phil
Edwards Thanks! Your my hero for today!
I removed the 1.4 mag and my hit rate went back up to 90% plus, my confidence level went back up again on the 90.
A bit surprised about this, as I just bought the mag used here on FM for a good price, but now feel it's useless, gonna put it back for sale on the boards again
I was planning to bring the lens to steves camera for a CA, but so far w/o the mag it isn't needed!
jojomon11 wrote:
Wonderful stuff all, esp. Edwards I always love you raw street scenes and cityscapes!
Thanks Ron
Yes the difficulty for me is the iso esp. in a very dark church or outdoors in the evening. Pushing iso on the MM causes banding on some of my shots, esp. in the darks and shadows, but the M I had no banding issues. I tried a Bescor adjustable led light panel for lighting and it seemed to work very well for me, but the weight made it top heavy somewhat, but it was worth it for some of the images I took.
I tried to make my PP flow with the DSLR I had also, and yes it was quite difficult for me as well, even B and W's for both PP looked totally different than what I expected, I def. prefer the Leica rendering over the DSLR thats for sure!
Hi Phil, that's interesting about the MM. I recall Joe saying he's also seen banding with it, while others haven't. I'm not surprised though, since it's just an M9 with a modified sensor... I'm still getting some banding, but for the most part it seems to be fairy under control as long as I don't push the camera too hard or constantly review images while it's writing to the card. While I think the amount of 'low level' banding with the Panasonic Gold SDHC cards is better than what I was getting with the Transcend cards, because it's more random when there is banding, meaning it's less discernible, my feeling is the amount of banding is a touch higher overall (if comparing black frames pushed 3-5 stops in post, which isn't normally a realistic form of post production). So far, sticking to ISO 640 and pushing in post seems to work well at minimizing banding. I wonder if with the MM that would equate to the same technique, but topping out at ISO 1250?
I've been curious about the LED light panels... to use one on the M9 for some fill light. But so far I've found the cheaper ones tend to have a green color cast and the more compact ones are fairly useless in brighter ambient light... For indoor/night use it might be worth trying...
In fact, this image was done with an LED video light... not mine, rather, the other photographer always brings one and it does come in handy. Here I was the 'light stand' holding the light for his shot, but also grabbed a few.
Regarding the problems you were having with focus consistency and the 90mm lens... I also tried and pretty much gave up on using the 1.4x magnifier. I think with it you spend too much time trying to perfect the focus and end up over analyzing it... Without the magnifier, the RF patch more or less pops into alignment when all is perfect. I found that a diopter correction eyepiece helped a lot, thanks to Charles's suggestion and experience.
Edward, thanks for the nickname. Great Planar presence in the flag series, particularly the first one.
Joakim, I love the light and shadows and am a sucker for doors and windows.
Jawad. Thanks for the follow up and context. I think you were right to select the first examples as it works better overall.
Adrian - I agree the 50's star-shaped aperture is kind of annoying, but sometimes can be used to good effect. But if I had the choice, would prefer a rounder shape.
nibutto - congrats and hopefully it will be a long and fulfilling photographic relationship! Looking forward to seeing more. That's also a lens I don't think we've seen much from in this thread. At least for me, the pre-ASPH 28s are an unknown area.
Adam - thanks - I can see that 50AA lens flare example could be problematic. Have you been able to determine if the problem was fixed? Interesting collection of images.
Fursan - great set and like the birds & silhouette!
Here's another random one from the wedding...
The one at top was with the 21 Lux, the one above was 21mm, but don't remember if it was the Lux or SEM...
I had the 1.4x mag for a while. I also use a -1.0 diopter (which helps me a lot). When I first received the 1.4x I added the -1.0 diopter and found that I was basically unable to focus accurately at all. I removed the diopter and it worked much better. My take on this is that the 1.4x may require an additional/different diopter than the bare VF to work well with your eyes.
jojomon11 wrote: edwardkaraa wroteHi Phil,
I don't have the 90 cron but I use the Sonnar 85. After having the lens adjusted, my keeper rate is close to 100% on stationary subjects. However, my accuracy suffered a lot when I used the 1.4x magnifier. I know it doesn't make sense but this is what happened and I was very glad to get rid of the magnifier. My keeper rate is back to 100%.
jojomon11 wroteQuestion for 90 lens users
I got a 90 cron from a FMer here a few days ago, and mounted a 1.4 mag on it, love the lens, but my keeper rate has drop, I usually shoot 28, 35, 50 most of the time with higher keeper rate
It is the same on my M and MM keeper wise so I am thinking maybe it's my technique, for awhile I was thinking it was front focusing, but it seems the more I use it in decent light the better I will be acclimated to the focal length
Def. seems a bit harder to use a 90 than I thought originally? Any tips on this would be greatly appreciated! I also am near sighted and don't use my glasses ever when I shoot, wonder if thats the issue
Should have got a 75
PhilEdwards Thanks! Your my hero for today!
I removed the 1.4 mag and my hit rate went back up to 90% plus, my confidence level went back up again on the 90.
A bit surprised about this, as I just bought the mag used here on FM for a good price, but now feel it's useless, gonna put it back for sale on the boards again
I was planning to bring the lens to steves camera for a CA, but so far w/o the mag it isn't needed!
Next wedding I do next year, I will hire a non-photog assistant to hold my led light panels for me and carry my gear. Planning to do a all leica wedding next year solo The family as agreed with me to do this Now I have to talk them into it being a B and W wedding
Thanks for the info, yes as soon as I removed my 1.4 mag, all went well I am a happy camper now
I might even try it w/o using my 1.25 mag, I did miss a few shots, that I swore I got after I took them