Excellent shots Jeff. Interesting comment about the color temp. On the 5D2, I mostly found Leica R lenses to give a cooler rendition than Zeiss, at least the C/Y Zeiss that I compared to at the time.
Thanks Rod, Charles and Joe I'll post some pictures in a month or two or whatever time it takes to shoot a couple of rolls and get them developed and scanned
Excellent shots Jeff! I was wondering what the ZM 28 is like in terms of Zeiss qualities. #1 and 2 are my favourites Beautiful rendering!
I find with the ZM 25/2.8 Biogon, I have to manually set if for 28/2.8 Asph, otherwise I have a left red vignetting edge. With the 28/2 Asph setting, the normal WA vignetting is there until about f/5.6, which is not a problem, as this about what I use for landscapes. If it is for portraits, I like the vignetting, particularly if I am using the lens wide open If I change the manual setting to 24/2.8, there is no vignetting, but the left red edge reappears.
Joe, great shots! I am also like the vignetting!
Luka, really look forward to your 6x7 film shots What a great opportunity to get the most from MF. Make sure to let us know the opening date to the new forum thread!
zombii wrote:
Excellent shots Jeff. Interesting comment about the color temp. On the 5D2, I mostly found Leica R lenses to give a cooler rendition than Zeiss, at least the C/Y Zeiss that I compared to at the time.
Thanks. I haven't compared the Zeiss glass on the 5DII (and now I don't have it--just a 7D), but I would say that the two R lenses I have for the 7D render similar to the M glass--slightly warmer than the more neutral (almost flat) Canon L glass.
joe88 wrote:
Love that second shot Jeff! Paris is one of my favorite cities.
Joe
Thanks, Joe. I travel a lot for work, and I got stuck in London for an extra weekend last month, so I caught the train to Paris. It's not a my favorite city in Europe (that is probably Stockholm), but its growing on me.
charles.K wrote:
Excellent shots Jeff! I was wondering what the ZM 28 is like in terms of Zeiss qualities. #1 and 2 are my favourites Beautiful rendering!
I find with the ZM 25/2.8 Biogon, I have to manually set if for 28/2.8 Asph, otherwise I have a left red vignetting edge. With the 28/2 Asph setting, the normal WA vignetting is there until about f/5.6, which is not a problem, as this about what I use for landscapes. If it is for portraits, I like the vignetting, particularly if I am using the lens wide open If I change the manual setting to 24/2.8, there is no vignetting, but the left red edge reappears.
Joe, great shots! I am also like the vignetting!
Luka, really look forward to your 6x7 film shots What a great opportunity to get the most from MF. Make sure to let us know the opening date to the new forum thread! ...Show more →
I coded it as the Leica 28/2.8 Elmarit-M ASPH. That seems to work perfectly. The lens had no red edge issues and very little vignetting when used uncoded, so it was an easy one to correct.
Well, the 28mm Elmarit ASPH is one of the few Leica lenses I haven't played with yet, so I can't say. :-) However, this Zeiss lens is just ridiculously sharp and contrasty, so I can't see there being a lot of difference between the two. My guess is that its pretty subtle, and more of one of the "signature" things--a combination of color, micro-contrast and the like that you can't quite put your finger on, but its there.
I did have a 28mm 'Cron and the Zeiss seems to have a bit more contrast, but I would have to compare them side by side and the 28 'Cron has gone to a new home now.
Interesting! I had the ZE 28/2, and I was not impressed with it, as far as the Zeiss rendering I was used to, but this ZM 28, is obviously a very different lens formula
One other observation on the Zeiss 28--its VERY prone to flare. It's the one weakness. I need to get the hood and see if it helps or not. The 28mm 'Cron was very resistant to flare.
carstenw wrote:
I would suggest that there are two claims you make that may not be true:
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2) the Leica rangefinder system cannot focus properly without live view.
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For 2), the rangefinder is incredibly accurate for wide lenses. It stops being great after 90mm, but not at the short end.
For what it's worth, this is what Lloyd has to say (I hope it is ok to quote one phrase, otherwise I delete it): "The lack of Live View is the #1 limitation of the M9, for it means both haphazard framing and focus unless your eyes are perfect".
His comparision crops of 21mm shots on D3x and M9 also show clearly sharper results at all apertures for the D3x/ZF21mm lens. IN my experience sometimes it takes less than a millimeter on the focus ring to go from perfect focus to "just quite sharp". I have no Leica M, but for critical focus or sharpness I think that liveview is the gold standard, at least from a tripod.
Bernie, live view is the gold standard, and an excellent means for achieving very accurate MF, and is obviously lacking from the M9. After few months of extensive practice with RF focusing again, the ability to achieve accurate MF with WA's is amazing and fun, with an accurately calibrated M9 and lens. My guess, even in the Lloyd's latest blogs is suggesting he waiting for his M9 to be returned after being sent away for calibration, is really the problem, until he can fully update his testing. I have the utmost respect for Lloyd and his work
As Carstenw, was stating after 90mm, MF with the RF mechanism, is a lot more critical with the DOF becoming very narrow.
Thanks for the comments guys! I decreased vignetting on #2 and #4. Funny how we Leicaholics debate to death the cyan drift on the M8/M9 and here I am, adding back vignetting to my pics
