Thanks Charles and Philippe! Yes, I enjoy the Zeiss 35C and 50P!
Kyle, here are some samples just to show the different flare characteristics of the 21. If the sun is in the image, it probably won't flare, or if it does, it will be minor. It's when it's outside the frame, and seemingly the farther outside, while still shining on the front element, the more pronounced the flare will be. But it will often be a single blob, rather than a string of smaller blobs. I did not opt for the hood, since it's a very shallow rectangular design that I didn't feel would be all that effective, therefore I can't actually say if it makes any difference. If I ever get around to it, I would like to design a custom petal lens hood.
Also keep in mind all or most of these images were at f/11, kind of my default with the lens so I don't have to think too much about focusing while on the run. At wider apertures the flare may be larger... I wouldn't recommend stopping down much past f/11 though, unless you need the DoF, as diffraction is already starting to set in.
Can you find the flare?:
It's on the guy's knee in both images. I had a feeling it would happen, but couldn't see it in the M9's display. It's not so bad here.
See, with the sun in the image, there is a very small trace of flare at the bottom center of the frame under the watermark
P1. Basically (please correct me if I am wrong, anyone else who has a Reidreviews subscription), Reid of www.reidreview.com says the Zeiss has better contrast and at some f stops, sharpness also is better.
P2. Erwin Puts (Leica guru) also says it is comparable to the leica without the use of aspherical elements. For the price difference and the fact that i won't be using 21 so often, i figured go with the Zeiss. http://www.imx.nl/photo/zeiss/zeiss/page66.html
P3. And it focuses to 0.5m! (not RF coupled, but sometimes that extra 20cm makes all the difference.)
P4. Low Cost!
A key 'con' about the zeiss that landscape photogs may be very worried about is corner sharpness at f8 - see Ken rockwell's comprison below. I think Reid says corner sharpness at f8 for zeiss and leica and almost the same (leica having a slight edge).
KL - Great shots, like the cloud formation. I also really like your ZM 21 shots. I know I have seen them before but I can definitely stand to see them again. The woman on the stairs is fantastic!
Ron - Great series with the 35 and 50 and great demonstration of what the 21 can do. You sure are making me think about an UWA again . The last ZM 21 shot with the silhouettes is just awesome!
Malkovic - Great shots from Prague....a place I would definitely want to visit one day
Ron, excellent examples, and I really like the last shot.
KL, great seeing these shots again. I love #3, the expressions are just classic Yes you do need a 28 Cron
Ryan, very nice set Fascinating lens to try out!!!
Martin - Good tip on the VF patch, thanks for sharing!
KL - very nice cloud formation, 2nd shot with the runner is also very nice. The ZM21 shots are really good.. and BTW, yes, you NEED the 28Cron and 75Lux
Ron, another super set! Really rich color shots. #1 & 3 are my favorites. Last shot on the ZM21 set is also very nice. Agree with you, I want a quieter shutter on the next M iteration, M9 shutter is way to loud.
Malkovic, I like the 2nd shot best. Prague looks like a very nice and interesting city for photography .. I guess most European cities are nice for photography compared to this side of the pond
Ryan, nice set! From the 35Lux set: I think I need to spend some time at the Thrifty store to compensate for buying all these Leica goodies No more new lenses for now, except maybe a 90Cron later this year if my accountant approves The Perar is an excellent lens from what I have seen posted. I think SteveF had one of those lenses with some shots earlier. Post some shots when it arrives.. I could change my mind
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The contrast and black points on my monitor seems to be out since my PC crashed and required a new HDD... let me know if the pics look washed out or if the darks are too black?
M9 28Cron
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Edit: There appears to be moire on the first shot (the shirt on the man in the center), even when shot with neon lights at midnight Or could it be light reflections? I forgot to remove my B&W clear filter and not sure if it contributed to the effect.
Joe - I think the blacks and contrast are great. Great look to these images. I love how everyone is getting photographed all around in each photo. #4 is my favorite, look at all the action in that shot! What ISO did you use?
ISO 400, 640, 400, 320 but I added grain so you really can't tell
I was constantly trying to adjust exposure with all the lights changing intensity and color. Next time I might consider AP with Auto ISO at this place. It was really difficult to meter manually plus having to focus and track subjects, but overall I'm enjoying the 28Cron for these type of shots, a really nice lens to use.
Thank you Phil. Thats Portra 160VC, converted to b/w with Silver Efex.
No other PP, except resize and output sharpening. Unfortunately Flickr is terrible, on my screen this is totally smooth without that awful grain in his painting.
Joe - I didn't notice until you pointed it out about the moire. Anybody, what is the best way to remove? I use LR3 and have CS5...though don't use it much. Any easy way to remove with that software? I don't want to buy/use anything else
jojomon11 wrote:
I just got my M6 TTL back and have velvia 160 loaded into it and its my first film camera, any tips for a film rookie like me?
Should I underexpose a stop? and adjust in Post?
What film? Portra 160 or Velvia 100 or Velvia 50 or something else?
If it's color negative, try to get your exposures right, and if you are a little unsure, err on the side of overexposure. Rating an ISO 160 film at 100 will give you a bit of a buffer and won't harm your quality at all. In fact it will probably only help.
If it's slide (velvia or something else), try to get your exposures right on. Some people underexpose by 1/3 of a stop to make colors a bit more saturated, but I wouldn't worry about that if this is your first film experience.
I'd concentrate more on making sure you got your film camera loaded correctly. When you wind the frame after the first couple of shots, make sure the rewind knob turns. Make sure you have you cap off the lens and make sure you are framing with the right framelines. Oh, and keep your fingers out of the shots. I know it all sounds silly, but with no instant review and no through the lens viewing, some of this stuff can bite you in the butt. Also, I think on the M6TTL, turning the shutter to B will shut off the meter. You might think of doing that when you put your camera in the bag. If you leave it on another shutter speed, the shutter release can get half depressed in the bag and completely run down your battery. Happened to me a couple times when I first got my M6 a couple years ago.
kidtexas wrote:
What film? Portra 160 or Velvia 100 or Velvia 50 or something else?
If it's color negative, try to get your exposures right, and if you are a little unsure, err on the side of overexposure. Rating an ISO 160 film at 100 will give you a bit of a buffer and won't harm your quality at all. In fact it will probably only help.
If it's slide (velvia or something else), try to get your exposures right on. Some people underexpose by 1/3 of a stop to make colors a bit more saturated, but I wouldn't worry about that if this is your first film experience.
I'd concentrate more on making sure you got your film camera loaded correctly. When you wind the frame after the first couple of shots, make sure the rewind knob turns. Make sure you have you cap off the lens and make sure you are framing with the right framelines. Oh, and keep your fingers out of the shots. I know it all sounds silly, but with no instant review and no through the lens viewing, some of this stuff can bite you in the butt. Also, I think on the M6TTL, turning the shutter to B will shut off the meter. You might think of doing that when you put your camera in the bag. If you leave it on another shutter speed, the shutter release can get half depressed in the bag and completely run down your battery. Happened to me a couple times when I first got my M6 a couple years ago. ...Show more →
Thnaks Kidtexas for the information, yes it's porta 160, thanks for the rating iso at 100 tip
. The last ZM 21 shot with the silhouettes is just awesome! 
Or could it be light reflections? I forgot to remove my B&W clear filter and not sure if it contributed to the effect. 
