Joe, no I used AWB in a couple of shots and did not bother correcting in post. You are right however that the Zeiss rendering is cooler if the WB is set to the same.
Speaking of cooler rendering of the zeiss glass...Here are a few I grabbed recently on a walk after I mailed off the last of my film.
I think the first is with the Noctilux and the last two are with the ZM 21 2.8. I haven't shot with that lens to much but it is sharp across the frame. I have a shot from this past weekend were it shows a little distortion but I am happy with it.
Joe
I just walked in your shoes this past weekend. I was downtown, hopped out to take some shots and then that infamous, "beep" to remind me I was dumb enough to forget the SD card. Oh, the film thing...
My last roll I shot in my M6...I was so excited to get it out of the camera to develop it that I forgot to rewind it and just took off the bottom plate. Ha! Luckily, it didn't cause to much of an issue.
Shaun, not your typical brick shots ... but I like these
So I'm not the only one judging from what you and Ron shared ... but hopefully we all learn from our mistakes. You might want to check your shutter count on the M8 at some point, the L file numbering on the M8 needs to be reset when it reaches 99xx or thereabouts... the camera won't shoot anymore... but its just a simple menu reset
Ryan, wow, a 28 Cron! Looks like you've jumped into the M system without regrets. Very sweet photos of your daughter back on the other page, perhaps the nicest yet IMO.
Charles - great sets! The light you have there is incredible. I like #2 from both.
Luka, not bad for someone not into portraits Thanks for that comparison as well!
LL, the 75 Cron looks great.
joakim: I'm very partial to #2 and also #4
Shaun, nice job on the bricks You're using the ZM21 on the M8? I like it on the M9, though wide open it does get soft in the corners due to field curvature. Perhaps it's less noticeable on the M8.
KL: thanks. IMO no need to emulate. You've got a good approach. I really enjoy the daily life photos in particular. I noticed some of your photos in the LFI M9 gallery and they definitely hold their own!
Joe: http://www.petapixel.com/2011/04/18/local-news-piece-paints-boston-street-photographers-as-perverts/
The thing is, they weren't, from my understanding, standing off with long telephoto lenses. Check the links for various views on the situation.
Ryan, yes, the Gold Coast Seriously most the time the lighting is so harsh and contrasty, so there are only narrow opportunities in the day and weather when it is ideal to shoot. In the rain forests, the lighting is even worse on sunny days!
Ron, excellent shot! Love the composition with the spiral and reflection Yes, some of KL's shots have been featured in LFI M9 gallery, great stuff!!
Haha.. a funny one.. thanks for sharing ..they shoot others but don't like the video shooting them
I don't generally like to shoot at that location as there are some "characters" lurking there and if you are not careful you might have your head smashed with a beer bottle. I've seen a few street shooters there with all sorts of cameras, each time a parent and and child walks past, they are like the paparazzis... snap snap snap I've been shot with my kid on his stroller God knows how many times at that place.. I generally play along and let them take a shot of us, then I look their direction and what pisses me off most is that they turn their face and hide their cameras.. so it makes me suspicious... I rather they just smile back...
Anyway, I think the proof is in the pudding, we can only judge them if we get to see their work and then we know if its really art or perversion? I didn't like the footage where one of them kind of sneaked behind someone and shot their legs... that seems perverted to me... and they broke the #1 cardinal rule of the greats... I don't think I recall any of the great "street" photographers shooting in packs..most are very discreet. Finally if we look at Bruce Gilden as an example of an aggressive street photographer, he has this "offensive" flash in your face style but when you look at this pics, they tell a story and it works for him
Joe, did you read the response by one of the photographers in the story?: http://thephotorecession.webs.com/
He shows some photos that are apparently representative of what was photographed.
denoir wrote:
I've been doing some comparison shots between the Zeiss 50/1.5 Sonnar and the Leica 50/1.4 Summilux ASPH, basically trying to find a scenario that would justify keeping the Sonnar.
I can see somebody that likes the rendering of the Nocti/1 liking the Sonnar type of OOF rendering. Not me though. Unfortunately I've failed to find a single case where I preferred the Sonnar rendering. I'll keep on investigating though.
i thought you of all people would appreciate having a lens that can generate some seriously funky bokeh when the occasion calls.
it seems to be a sonnar fifty thing, because i have shots from the nikkor 5cm f/2 that where the tree branch bokeh looks just like your sample B.
for me the attraction of sonnar rendering is the transition from in focus to just out of focus and the way it can add a little interest to portrait style shots where the background is so far back that it would just be gaussian sort of blur with any other fast fifty.
joe88 wrote:
Haha.. a funny one.. thanks for sharing ..they shoot others but don't like the video shooting them
I don't generally like to shoot at that location as there are some "characters" lurking there and if you are not careful you might have your head smashed with a beer bottle. I've seen a few street shooters there with all sorts of cameras, each time a parent and and child walks past, they are like the paparazzis... snap snap snap I've been shot with my kid on his stroller God knows how many times at that place.. I generally play along and let them take a shot of us, then I look their direction and what pisses me off most is that they turn their face and hide their cameras.. so it makes me suspicious... I rather they just smile back...
Anyway, I think the proof is in the pudding, we can only judge them if we get to see their work and then we know if its really art or pervision? I didn't like the footage where one of them kind of sneaked behind someone and shot their legs... that seems perveted to me... and they broke the #1 cardinal rule of the greats... I don't think I recall any of the great "street" photographers shooting in packs..most are very discreet. Finally if we look at Bruce Gilden as an example of an aggresive street photographer, he has this "offensive" flash in your face style but when you look at this pics, they tell a story and it works for him ...Show more →
Interesting discussion and interview ! Not something we can ignore, as I am sure the issues raised here will arise more so in the future. IMO, I still think it is important, where possible to have a connection and permission. In cases where there are shots of women, I do ask and I have given a business card, and they have often asked for copies of the shots for themselves, which I forward on to them as a courtesy. True street shots, yes it is very tough ethics and we must be mindful of this.
Joe your street shots are amazing, and you seem obviously blend in well, polite and without being obtrusive to get these shots!
It is a shame, that these photogs, if you can call them that, may cause angst for the legitimate street photogs.
I do like to have a connection/permission for my shots, and some of the shots may not be as impromptu or natural but I do feel more comfortable this way.
It's an interesting quandary, whether to ask or not. I don't normally pursue much people type street, so admittedly I feel a bit awkward about it, and if possible prefer to avoid interaction for a purely candid capture. But the loudness of the M9 makes that difficult from near distances. That said, the 'on the street' photos I posted a couple weeks ago were all done with consent. Some people said no, and that was fine, I just moved on, even though I could have legally photographed them against their will. But it was interesting that quite a significant number agreed outright or required only mild coercion through flattery (the elderly Italian men). Charles, you might be on to something with that approach.
I'm not exactly sure what the laws are in European countries, but I got into a brief conversation/debate with a guy in Germany who politely disagreed with my photography of random strangers on the street. In the end we agreed to disagree... Based on his concerns, there seemed to be a desire for protection of personal privacy even in public. At least in Germany there are frequently topics in the news concerning information privacy and protection of personal information. Perhaps it creates a perception among citizens that such protection also applies to their physical likenesses in public environments...? For example the difficulty Google has had in rolling out Street View there.
Joe, not sure the term lurking is beneficial to your vision. Perhaps anticipating the decisive moment is more apt?
Great images. I like the police officer better in B&W. The bright color of the vest in the color version, if I remember it correctly, distracted from his expression and the overall image. #3 is also very nice.
Here's pretty much the extent of my 'street' photography in Lausanne. Elderly subjects across the street
Ron - great shots! I love the compositions you are able to get. Always unique. Interesting discussion too....I am not the boldest in street photography too for the simple fact that a lot of people lately *seem* to have a negative view on street photographers. Warranted or not. When I have been going out lately I try to pick a spot and then wait for the moment making it seem to the person being photographed that they happened to get in my way....rather than be the shot
Joe - nice shots. I really like #2 & #3. And yes, photographers are like bikers....we always are warm towards eachother whether we know the other one or not
Charles - more beautiful shots. That is a great spot you have with the city in the background. The colors are always wonderful. One question, is there a day when it ISN'T raining over the city?
KL - do you have a link to the shots you had on LFI? Thats excellent!
Pipes with the 90 Elmarit-M....other shots with the 35 Lux
Resistance is futile 
