Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
p.1711 #1Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Can I ask a software related question to you all?
I've been a Lightroom user ever since the first Beta version but I'm growing tired of the bloat Adobe is packing into their software and with there now being Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic (CC?) I can't foresee them maintaining two platforms much longer and I am definitely not a fan of the new cloud-based version.
I'm considering a platform switch to Capture One. I've never used it in its current incarnation, but I did use it in the past when it was just a tethered capture tool, but it seems promising and free of all the bloat that Lightroom now has. I loaded up a trial on my machine to see how I get along with it but I'm curious if anyone here is specifically using one over the other.
I'm asking here because I wanted to know how it works with Leica DNGs since that's what we work with. I have DNGs and TIFFs created from my film scanners but I can effectively work with those anywhere.
I'll delete if it's not appropriate, just wanted to pose the question to this group specifically.
I've been a Lightroom user ever since the first Beta version but I'm growing tired of the bloat Adobe is packing into their software and with there now being Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic (CC?) I can't foresee them maintaining two platforms much longer and I am definitely not a fan of the new cloud-based version.
I'm considering a platform switch to Capture One. I've never used it in its current incarnation, but I did use it in the past when it was just a tethered capture tool, but it seems promising and free of all the bloat that Lightroom now has. I loaded up a trial on my machine to see how I get along with it but I'm curious if anyone here is specifically using one over the other.
I'm asking here because I wanted to know how it works with Leica DNGs since that's what we work with. I have DNGs and TIFFs created from my film scanners but I can effectively work with those anywhere.
I'll delete if it's not appropriate, just wanted to pose the question to this group specifically.
Apr 10, 2020 at 06:29 PM
p.1711 #2Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AbramG – Fair question, I think; but I can't be of help as I use Lightroom Classic 9.2 and used Capture One only briefly years ago. If I were to move away from Lightroom my main consideration would be that the new program should be compatible with plugins that work in Lightroom: SilverEfex is essential for me, and perhaps some preset or profile packages, such as Mlook (presets) and C1ick Match (profiles), although the latter I'm still considering. So this type of compatibility is essential for me. Also, I found the Lightroom file view on screen to be superior to some other programs: I tried DxO PhotoLab 3 because it runs the Nik plugins, but found the rendition on screen more difficult to judge than in Lightroom.
My conclusion was to stay with Lightroom unless Adobe did something really stupid, like forcing use of cloud storage or not permitting to process images without an internet correction — but I don't expect that will happen.
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My conclusion was to stay with Lightroom unless Adobe did something really stupid, like forcing use of cloud storage or not permitting to process images without an internet correction — but I don't expect that will happen.
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Apr 10, 2020 at 08:26 PM
p.1711 #3Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
I've kept my Capture One license alive by only purchasing an upgrade every two years but, like Mitch, I'd find it hard to abandon Lightroom partly because of the plugins (Metadata Wranger, LensTagger, LR/Mogrify, Negative Lab Pro) but also because of Photoshop's Spot Healing Brush (vastly superior to Lightroom's), Content Aware Fill, and, more recently, the Lumenzia extension. But, should Adobe try to force the use of cloud storage, I'll definitely switch to Capture One or something else.
Apr 10, 2020 at 08:39 PM
p.1711 #4Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AbramG wrote:
I'm asking here because I wanted to know how it works with Leica DNGs since that's what we work with. I have DNGs and TIFFs created from my film scanners but I can effectively work with those anywhere.
I've used Capture One for years with Leica digital cameras because I always found the colors better. It works really well with DNG.
My workflow is hybrid: I generate a 16 bits tiff and then edit it in Photoshop because of the plugins: Nik Viveza & Silver Effect, Topaz AI Sharpen & Denoize and of course, the other niceties such as the content based filling.
Maybe it is a force of habit but it works fine as I'm not in any hurry when I process my pictures nor do I have to manage high volumes.
I'm asking here because I wanted to know how it works with Leica DNGs since that's what we work with. I have DNGs and TIFFs created from my film scanners but I can effectively work with those anywhere.
I've used Capture One for years with Leica digital cameras because I always found the colors better. It works really well with DNG.
My workflow is hybrid: I generate a 16 bits tiff and then edit it in Photoshop because of the plugins: Nik Viveza & Silver Effect, Topaz AI Sharpen & Denoize and of course, the other niceties such as the content based filling.
Maybe it is a force of habit but it works fine as I'm not in any hurry when I process my pictures nor do I have to manage high volumes.
Apr 10, 2020 at 11:46 PM
p.1711 #6Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
M10 | DR Summicron 50 | ISO 400 | f/8.0 | 1/1500 sec
Chiang Mai – Empire of Signs
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Chiang Mai – Empire of Signs
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Apr 11, 2020 at 06:16 AM
p.1711 #7Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
I have never been a lightroom fan. Never warmed up to it. I have been using photoshop since the mid 1990s. I am still using Photoshop CS6 and will until I can't anymore and will then be force to go the subscription versions of PS.
Apr 11, 2020 at 07:02 AM
p.1711 #8Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Thanks for the info guys. I do have some plugins but realistically I don’t edit my photos too much. Especially as plugin after plugin and preset after preset gets discontinued and no longer works. I used VSCO presets for a long time but those are effectively dead now for RAW profiles so I’m back to square one.
There are two preset packs I’ve been looking at but I also would like to get out of the adobe subscription model since I don’t really need CC for personal work (I have a work license paid by my company).
Anyways don’t want to sidetrack the thread too much. Thank you for chiming in
There are two preset packs I’ve been looking at but I also would like to get out of the adobe subscription model since I don’t really need CC for personal work (I have a work license paid by my company).
Anyways don’t want to sidetrack the thread too much. Thank you for chiming in
Apr 11, 2020 at 08:01 AM
p.1711 #9Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AbramG wrote:
..I do have some plugins but realistically I don’t edit my photos too much...
My own approach is the opposite, as illustrated here, for some famous darkroom prints:
https://petapixel.com/2013/09/12/marked-photographs-show-iconic-prints-edited-darkroom/
I'm not saying this in sarcasm. Just that, for what I want to do, there is a limit with what you can do straight out of camera with B&W — and that goes for both analog and digital.
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..I do have some plugins but realistically I don’t edit my photos too much...
My own approach is the opposite, as illustrated here, for some famous darkroom prints:
https://petapixel.com/2013/09/12/marked-photographs-show-iconic-prints-edited-darkroom/
I'm not saying this in sarcasm. Just that, for what I want to do, there is a limit with what you can do straight out of camera with B&W — and that goes for both analog and digital.
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Frog Leaping photobook
Apr 11, 2020 at 08:35 AM
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p.1711 #11Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Weird by thatkatmat22, on FlickrHand held 8 shot pano with my Q2
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Apr 11, 2020 at 11:16 AM
p.1711 #12Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Mitch Alland wrote:
My own approach is the opposite, as illustrated here, for some famous darkroom prints:
https://petapixel.com/2013/09/12/marked-photographs-show-iconic-prints-edited-darkroom/
I'm not saying this in sarcasm. Just that, for what I want to do, there is a limit with what you can do straight out of camera with B&W — and that goes for both analog and digital.
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Oh no you are totally correct. I only meant that for myself, especially because I primarily have been shooting film, my editing is very minor these days. I'm certainly not opposed to it, I just try to spend less time editing vs what I used to do.
AbramG wrote
..I do have some plugins but realistically I don’t edit my photos too much...https://petapixel.com/2013/09/12/marked-photographs-show-iconic-prints-edited-darkroom/
I'm not saying this in sarcasm. Just that, for what I want to do, there is a limit with what you can do straight out of camera with B&W — and that goes for both analog and digital.
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Oh no you are totally correct. I only meant that for myself, especially because I primarily have been shooting film, my editing is very minor these days. I'm certainly not opposed to it, I just try to spend less time editing vs what I used to do.
Apr 11, 2020 at 11:28 AM
p.1711 #13Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AbramG wrote:
Can I ask a software related question to you all?
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I'm asking here because I wanted to know how it works with Leica DNGs since that's what we work with. I have DNGs and TIFFs created from my film scanners but I can effectively work with those anywhere.
I'll delete if it's not appropriate, just wanted to pose the question to this group specifically.
I have been using Capture One for years back to version 2 or 3 can't remember which.
Used Lightroom a few times but it never caught on with me. Still use it for calibrating my Dslr lenses.
Leica DNGs work great in Capture One. Though I only have the Monochrom. I like the enhancements they have made in the Layers functionality with masking and adjustments. Not as refined as Photoshop but with patience on can do a lot with it.
With my Color Dslrs I do 95% of my work in Capture One and very little in Photoshop. Mainly resizing, using 3rd party add-in plug in filters, 3rd party luminosity panels and removal of the difficult sensor dust that Capture One doesn't cleanup to my satisfaction.
Capture One has a learning curve. They have many How To's on their website but at times I do some U-Tube searching.
I find Capture One's catalog system is very stable and I have had very few problems. I do keep the number of images in a Catalog to smaller sizes so I can access images I am working on quickly.
Nothing wrong with Photoshop and Lightroom I just find that Capture One's functionality does most of what I want to do.
Can I ask a software related question to you all?
.......
I'm asking here because I wanted to know how it works with Leica DNGs since that's what we work with. I have DNGs and TIFFs created from my film scanners but I can effectively work with those anywhere.
I'll delete if it's not appropriate, just wanted to pose the question to this group specifically.
I have been using Capture One for years back to version 2 or 3 can't remember which.
Used Lightroom a few times but it never caught on with me. Still use it for calibrating my Dslr lenses.
Leica DNGs work great in Capture One. Though I only have the Monochrom. I like the enhancements they have made in the Layers functionality with masking and adjustments. Not as refined as Photoshop but with patience on can do a lot with it.
With my Color Dslrs I do 95% of my work in Capture One and very little in Photoshop. Mainly resizing, using 3rd party add-in plug in filters, 3rd party luminosity panels and removal of the difficult sensor dust that Capture One doesn't cleanup to my satisfaction.
Capture One has a learning curve. They have many How To's on their website but at times I do some U-Tube searching.
I find Capture One's catalog system is very stable and I have had very few problems. I do keep the number of images in a Catalog to smaller sizes so I can access images I am working on quickly.
Nothing wrong with Photoshop and Lightroom I just find that Capture One's functionality does most of what I want to do.
Apr 11, 2020 at 04:47 PM
p.1711 #14Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Scenes from a dog walk this morning
Apr 11, 2020 at 08:25 PM
p.1711 #15Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
rji2goleez wrote:
Scenes from a dog walk this morning
Great series!
regards,
Joe D stay safe
Scenes from a dog walk this morning
Great series!
regards,
Joe D stay safe
Apr 12, 2020 at 12:10 AM
p.1711 #17Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
M10 | Summaron-M 1/5.6/28 | ISO 200 | f/5.6 | 1/1500 sec
Silver Spring, MD – Empire of Signs
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Silver Spring, MD – Empire of Signs
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Apr 12, 2020 at 04:44 AM
p.1711 #20Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Happy Easter Snowday from Minnesota!
Apr 12, 2020 at 03:02 PM