M10 + 35FLE I don't think anything else comes close size wise (The X1D+45 is almost close enough in size / The SL somehow feels bigger / the A9 is not ergonomic so it feels strained to use).
The RX1RII isn't a bad camera, it's just not as camera feeling in use as the M10.
The Leica Q is also great, but still doesn't quite have the feel of the M10, though close and a good substitute if you need/want certain features the Q offers and don't NEED an M.
adamdewilde wrote: Elijah wroteDonzo98 wrote@Elijah...shot with the Q.
This is one of the many reasons people love Leica glass... compare that to Nikon 35mm F1.4 G.
http://donzo98.easycgi.com/TestImages2/Tiny.jpgReason #735 I want Leica: size and weight. If you could get me a Full Frame digital camera the size of M10 and 35mm 1.4, I’m sold.M10 + 35FLE I don't think anything else comes close size wise (The X1D+45 is almost close enough in size / The SL somehow feels bigger / the A9 is not ergonomic so it feels strained to use).
The RX1RII isn't a bad camera, it's just not as camera feeling in use as the M10.
The Leica Q is also great, but still doesn't quite have the feel of the M10, though close and a good substitute if you need/want certain features the Q offers and don't NEED an M.
Thanks, definitely will look into getting this combo for sure. Maybe I’ll get it soon, without selling my Nikon gear first
Nice Gary, I did a couple dumpster shots the second time I was in Detroit last month and thought of you.
Werner, the railroad/industrial image at the top of the page and the even better one a couple pages back... where was that? Heidelberg?
Donzo98 wrote:
Or neurosurgeons... right Elijah
Very well written Ron!!
Elijah wrote:
Man, EVERYTHING is on point! Literally everything you said are my thoughts. You just know how to express them well.
My hobby turned into money and albeit it’s not a bad thing, I lost interest in it. Almost completely.
Gear is another thing, I want something genuine... something real... pure and simple. I thought Fuji X100 series or XT1/2... I was wrong... Leica is the answer.
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Or neurosurgeons!!! Yes!! I knew I should’ve became a neurosurgeon! Aerospace industry doesn’t pay that well
Aerospace is so in the news right now in Canada thanks to the 220% duty ruling by friends of Boeing and Trump against Bombardier's C-Series aircraft...
Thanks guys. 25 years ago I didn't think about it the same way. I know I didn't think of Leica gear that way then. I briefly owned an M3 DS with collapsible 50 Cron and 90 Elmarit thin and never gelled with it. I couldn't get my head around how it might be better than a fancy SLR with AF. But back then my main priority was shooting as much sports as possible, so a gear mis-match. Funny how things change with time. I wouldn't say I'm sentimental or nostalgic for simpler times, therefore I shoot Leica. Rather, I just don't want to deal with unnecessary crap if I can avoid it. Leica M gives me that without compromising the performance parameters I want in this type of system (compact FF camera, small high quality lenses, direct input controls, responsive, lack of electronic layers between me and the subject). And it doesn't hurt that it's aesthetically pleasing.
I've tried various Fuji gear and think it's a good general design, but still IMO let down by trying to be something for everyone. Unfortunately when a lot of your customers are buying because of the long spec-sheet list, it seems a lot of manufacturers feel some kind of obligation to make sure all of those features somehow remind you they're working hard for you. In use it just feels like busy electronics. Sorry. But if I notice that aspect, then it's already a distraction. My recent stint with an a9 loaner, while good technically, again was a situation where I had to endure an EVF light show to concentrate on the subject.
"Leica is the answer."
The pixel pushers will gladly tell you how wrong you are. How much money you're wasting because you can get (technically) better results from much less expensive equipment. Or you're just drinking the Kool-Aide (though who isn't?). The thing with Leica M is you're spending a lot of money on a system that excels if you ignore the quest for perfection. Those probably most disappointed with Leica are expecting perfection, in part because of the price but Leica's own marketing also plays this up. If you can let this go, ignore how much money you spent and just let yourself work intuitively with the gear, you'll be happy. It might take time to get to that level of fluidity with the gear, but that's half the fun.
rscheffler wrote:
Nice Gary, I did a couple dumpster shots the second time I was in Detroit last month and thought of you.
Werner, the railroad/industrial image at the top of the page and the even better one a couple pages back... where was that? Heidelberg?
Donzo98 wroteOr neurosurgeons... right Elijah
Very well written Ron!!Elijah wroteMan, EVERYTHING is on point! Literally everything you said are my thoughts. You just know how to express them well.
My hobby turned into money and albeit it’s not a bad thing, I lost interest in it. Almost completely.
Gear is another thing, I want something genuine... something real... pure and simple. I thought Fuji X100 series or XT1/2... I was wrong... Leica is the answer.
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Or neurosurgeons!!! Yes!! I knew I should’ve became a neurosurgeon! Aerospace industry doesn’t pay that well Aerospace is so in the news right now in Canada thanks to the 220% duty ruling by friends of Boeing and Trump against Bombardier's C-Series aircraft...
Yes! I was actually on a JSF F35 project for a couple years machining complex fuel control housings, then NEO A320 project for over a year.
Unfortunately Pratt and Whitney engines are still having issues which forced Airbus to slow down NEO production to single digits of airplane makes a year.
Nevertheless, I never went to college for this "career". I guess you could substitute that with Leica's
rscheffler wrote:
Nice Gary, I did a couple dumpster shots the second time I was in Detroit last month and thought of you.
Werner, the railroad/industrial image at the top of the page and the even better one a couple pages back... where was that? Heidelberg?
Donzo98 wroteOr neurosurgeons... right Elijah
Very well written Ron!!Elijah wroteMan, EVERYTHING is on point! Literally everything you said are my thoughts. You just know how to express them well.
My hobby turned into money and albeit it’s not a bad thing, I lost interest in it. Almost completely.
Gear is another thing, I want something genuine... something real... pure and simple. I thought Fuji X100 series or XT1/2... I was wrong... Leica is the answer.
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Or neurosurgeons!!! Yes!! I knew I should’ve became a neurosurgeon! Aerospace industry doesn’t pay that well Aerospace is so in the news right now in Canada thanks to the 220% duty ruling by friends of Boeing and Trump against Bombardier's C-Series aircraft...
Thanks guys. 25 years ago I didn't think about it the same way. I know I didn't think of Leica gear that way then. I briefly owned an M3 DS with collapsible 50 Cron and 90 Elmarit thin and never gelled with it. I couldn't get my head around how it might be better than a fancy SLR with AF. But back then my main priority was shooting as much sports as possible, so a gear mis-match. Funny how things change with time. I wouldn't say I'm sentimental or nostalgic for simpler times, therefore I shoot Leica. Rather, I just don't want to deal with unnecessary crap if I can avoid it. Leica M gives me that without compromising the performance parameters I want in this type of system (compact FF camera, small high quality lenses, direct input controls, responsive, lack of electronic layers between me and the subject). And it doesn't hurt that it's aesthetically pleasing.
I've tried various Fuji gear and think it's a good general design, but still IMO let down by trying to be something for everyone. Unfortunately when a lot of your customers are buying because of the long spec-sheet list, it seems a lot of manufacturers feel some kind of obligation to make sure all of those features somehow remind you they're working hard for you. In use it just feels like busy electronics. Sorry. But if I notice that aspect, then it's already a distraction. My recent stint with an a9 loaner, while good technically, again was a situation where I had to endure an EVF light show to concentrate on the subject.
"Leica is the answer."
The pixel pushers will gladly tell you how wrong you are. How much money you're wasting because you can get (technically) better results from much less expensive equipment. Or you're just drinking the Kool-Aide (though who isn't?). The thing with Leica M is you're spending a lot of money on a system that excels if you ignore the quest for perfection. Those probably most disappointed with Leica are expecting perfection, in part because of the price but Leica's own marketing also plays this up. If you can let this go, ignore how much money you spent and just let yourself work intuitively with the gear, you'll be happy. It might take time to get to that level of fluidity with the gear, but that's half the fun.
Gary Clennan wrote: rscheffler wroteNice Gary, I did a couple dumpster shots the second time I was in Detroit last month and thought of you.
Werner, the railroad/industrial image at the top of the page and the even better one a couple pages back... where was that? Heidelberg?
Donzo98 wroteOr neurosurgeons... right Elijah
Very well written Ron!!Elijah wroteMan, EVERYTHING is on point! Literally everything you said are my thoughts. You just know how to express them well.
My hobby turned into money and albeit it’s not a bad thing, I lost interest in it. Almost completely.
Gear is another thing, I want something genuine... something real... pure and simple. I thought Fuji X100 series or XT1/2... I was wrong... Leica is the answer.
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Or neurosurgeons!!! Yes!! I knew I should’ve became a neurosurgeon! Aerospace industry doesn’t pay that well Aerospace is so in the news right now in Canada thanks to the 220% duty ruling by friends of Boeing and Trump against Bombardier's C-Series aircraft...
Thanks guys. 25 years ago I didn't think about it the same way. I know I didn't think of Leica gear that way then. I briefly owned an M3 DS with collapsible 50 Cron and 90 Elmarit thin and never gelled with it. I couldn't get my head around how it might be better than a fancy SLR with AF. But back then my main priority was shooting as much sports as possible, so a gear mis-match. Funny how things change with time. I wouldn't say I'm sentimental or nostalgic for simpler times, therefore I shoot Leica. Rather, I just don't want to deal with unnecessary crap if I can avoid it. Leica M gives me that without compromising the performance parameters I want in this type of system (compact FF camera, small high quality lenses, direct input controls, responsive, lack of electronic layers between me and the subject). And it doesn't hurt that it's aesthetically pleasing.
I've tried various Fuji gear and think it's a good general design, but still IMO let down by trying to be something for everyone. Unfortunately when a lot of your customers are buying because of the long spec-sheet list, it seems a lot of manufacturers feel some kind of obligation to make sure all of those features somehow remind you they're working hard for you. In use it just feels like busy electronics. Sorry. But if I notice that aspect, then it's already a distraction. My recent stint with an a9 loaner, while good technically, again was a situation where I had to endure an EVF light show to concentrate on the subject.
"Leica is the answer."
The pixel pushers will gladly tell you how wrong you are. How much money you're wasting because you can get (technically) better results from much less expensive equipment. Or you're just drinking the Kool-Aide (though who isn't?). The thing with Leica M is you're spending a lot of money on a system that excels if you ignore the quest for perfection. Those probably most disappointed with Leica are expecting perfection, in part because of the price but Leica's own marketing also plays this up. If you can let this go, ignore how much money you spent and just let yourself work intuitively with the gear, you'll be happy. It might take time to get to that level of fluidity with the gear, but that's half the fun.
Continuing with some of the family slides that I've digitalized with the BEOON + Focotar 2 50mm + M10, below are two Kodachrome 25 images, the first from the mid-70s and the second from the late-80s, both with the Summicron 50mm lens.
zhangyue wrote: Gary Clennan wroterscheffler wroteNice Gary, I did a couple dumpster shots the second time I was in Detroit last month and thought of you.
Werner, the railroad/industrial image at the top of the page and the even better one a couple pages back... where was that? Heidelberg?
Donzo98 wroteOr neurosurgeons... right Elijah
Very well written Ron!!Elijah wroteMan, EVERYTHING is on point! Literally everything you said are my thoughts. You just know how to express them well.
My hobby turned into money and albeit it’s not a bad thing, I lost interest in it. Almost completely.
Gear is another thing, I want something genuine... something real... pure and simple. I thought Fuji X100 series or XT1/2... I was wrong... Leica is the answer.
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Or neurosurgeons!!! Yes!! I knew I should’ve became a neurosurgeon! Aerospace industry doesn’t pay that well Aerospace is so in the news right now in Canada thanks to the 220% duty ruling by friends of Boeing and Trump against Bombardier's C-Series aircraft...
Thanks guys. 25 years ago I didn't think about it the same way. I know I didn't think of Leica gear that way then. I briefly owned an M3 DS with collapsible 50 Cron and 90 Elmarit thin and never gelled with it. I couldn't get my head around how it might be better than a fancy SLR with AF. But back then my main priority was shooting as much sports as possible, so a gear mis-match. Funny how things change with time. I wouldn't say I'm sentimental or nostalgic for simpler times, therefore I shoot Leica. Rather, I just don't want to deal with unnecessary crap if I can avoid it. Leica M gives me that without compromising the performance parameters I want in this type of system (compact FF camera, small high quality lenses, direct input controls, responsive, lack of electronic layers between me and the subject). And it doesn't hurt that it's aesthetically pleasing.
I've tried various Fuji gear and think it's a good general design, but still IMO let down by trying to be something for everyone. Unfortunately when a lot of your customers are buying because of the long spec-sheet list, it seems a lot of manufacturers feel some kind of obligation to make sure all of those features somehow remind you they're working hard for you. In use it just feels like busy electronics. Sorry. But if I notice that aspect, then it's already a distraction. My recent stint with an a9 loaner, while good technically, again was a situation where I had to endure an EVF light show to concentrate on the subject.
"Leica is the answer."
The pixel pushers will gladly tell you how wrong you are. How much money you're wasting because you can get (technically) better results from much less expensive equipment. Or you're just drinking the Kool-Aide (though who isn't?). The thing with Leica M is you're spending a lot of money on a system that excels if you ignore the quest for perfection. Those probably most disappointed with Leica are expecting perfection, in part because of the price but Leica's own marketing also plays this up. If you can let this go, ignore how much money you spent and just let yourself work intuitively with the gear, you'll be happy. It might take time to get to that level of fluidity with the gear, but that's half the fun.
M240 & 90ME x3, 50 Lux ASPHVery well said Ron! I am also flattered that you thought of me when you saw a dumpster... Hi, Gary, I also thought about you during this shot
Haha - you guys crack me up! Seems I have a reputation for the wrong reason.... Nice mountain photo's Michael - reminds me I need to get out there again. I see Ha Ling peak just showing in the background...