I kept wanting to get a Q, but I'm more likely to save up for the M10 at this point. I think I may finally, hopefully, possibly have settled on a lens setup for at least a little while but the appeal of the M10 would be the more nimble handling and the better low light capabilities (Though I'm find with the size and weight of the M240).
I'm understanding it's at least a 2-stop improvement over the M240 sensor which for me is absolutely more than sufficient.
At the moment I have zero M mount lenses (everything is in transit) so I can't shoot with my Ms presently, I'm just stuck using my Contax G2.
AbramG wrote:
I kept wanting to get a Q, but I'm more likely to save up for the M10 at this point. I think I may finally, hopefully, possibly have settled on a lens setup for at least a little while but the appeal of the M10 would be the more nimble handling and the better low light capabilities (Though I'm find with the size and weight of the M240).
I'm understanding it's at least a 2-stop improvement over the M240 sensor which for me is absolutely more than sufficient.
At the moment I have zero M mount lenses (everything is in transit) so I can't shoot with my Ms presently, I'm just stuck using my Contax G2.
The Contax G2 is great.. I regret selling my setup (I had two black G2 bodies and all the black lenses). I'd buy them back but prices have gotten out of hand and I dare not go back to film considering the amount of film gear I still own even after my great film gear sell off around two-three years ago.
And I can also honestly say that after owning the Q 3-4 times I'm pretty sure I'll just keep using the camera till it dies or till it gets replaced with something better (likely will die first hahaha Leica). To be fair I hate the 28FOV but if you're a 28mm lover I don't think there is a better camera out there right now than the Q. I'd even hazard to say that for all the perks you get with the Q, I'd choose it over an M10 w/28Lux or well price point wise I'd choose the Q over buying a 28lux for my M10.
IF IF IF the Q had a 35mm lens I don't think I would have bothered buying a M10 and would probably be happy to have that as my fun camera and would just use the Q for everything and have the A9 be my work only camera.
The only major gripe I have with the Q (aside from FOV) is the fact that it's buffer can be slow for fashion type shooting and the video is auto mode only.. I have no idea why you can't shoot manual video but oh well (I think it has something to do with the way the AF works and processor limitations)... A lot of minor gripes though, one being that the lens works in 1/3 stops and the shutter dial works in full stops. I'd have liked both to work in half stops so that way my brain/fingers have an easier time setting settings while shooting on the fly. And some other nonsense things that were fixed in the beta firmware but other beta testers complained (weekend shooters) and they changed it back and I didn't get my own way and the camera was worse for it IMHO as someone who's used it to make a living.
Bottom line, I don't know when/if they will replace the Q but I'd pick one up if you're on the fence about it as it's a capable camera w/great IQ..
I wanted a Q too but, being just about to buy the SL, it's a bit extravagant. Have you thought about the Ricoh GR? Many pros rate them highly. I've been very impressed, especially for street work, and the camera is a seventh the price of the Q. I wrote this elsewhere in this forum:
"I've been very tempted by the Q for street work but for the moment I'm using a Ricoh GR II and finding it really hits the mark. Completely unobtrusive, cracking APS-C images and a delight to use, even without an EVF (although an add-on OVF is available). Its Snap feature, whereby you can preset a focus distance and bypass AF, allows easy surreptitious shooting. And it's pocket-sized!"
I'd be inclined to hang on to your Contax G2, although today's market price must be tempting. Like Adam, I had the full set, also in black, and it was the nicest camera I've ever used. Great pity it was never redesigned to use a digital sensor.
AbramG wrote:
I kept wanting to get a Q, but I'm more likely to save up for the M10 at this point. I think I may finally, hopefully, possibly have settled on a lens setup for at least a little while but the appeal of the M10 would be the more nimble handling and the better low light capabilities (Though I'm find with the size and weight of the M240).
I'm understanding it's at least a 2-stop improvement over the M240 sensor which for me is absolutely more than sufficient.
At the moment I have zero M mount lenses (everything is in transit) so I can't shoot with my Ms presently, I'm just stuck using my Contax G2.
I actually have and use a GR quite regularly and I am most definitely a fan of the 28mm fov! I only JUST got into the G2 so it's not going anywhere, I got a kit for a very reasonable price and I'm having a blast with it.
I'll still keep the Q on the table then, it's a high want / low need situation so it often gets pushed back. I'll probably be looking more seriously next year when I have more money saved up.
Thanks for the insight though guys! Much appreciated.
waterden wrote:
I wanted a Q too but, being just about to buy the SL, it's a bit extravagant. Have you thought about the Ricoh GR? Many pros rate them highly. I've been very impressed, especially for street work, and the camera is a seventh the price of the Q. I wrote this elsewhere in this forum:
"I've been very tempted by the Q for street work but for the moment I'm using a Ricoh GR II and finding it really hits the mark. Completely unobtrusive, cracking APS-C images and a delight to use, even without an EVF (although an add-on OVF is available). Its Snap feature, whereby you can preset a focus distance and bypass AF, allows easy surreptitious shooting. And it's pocket-sized!"
I'd be inclined to hang on to your Contax G2, although today's market price must be tempting. Like Adam, I had the full set, also in black, and it was the nicest camera I've ever used. Great pity it was never redesigned to use a digital sensor.
...Show more →AbramG wroteI kept wanting to get a Q, but I'm more likely to save up for the M10 at this point. I think I may finally, hopefully, possibly have settled on a lens setup for at least a little while but the appeal of the M10 would be the more nimble handling and the better low light capabilities (Though I'm find with the size and weight of the M240).
I'm understanding it's at least a 2-stop improvement over the M240 sensor which for me is absolutely more than sufficient.
At the moment I have zero M mount lenses (everything is in transit) so I can't shoot with my Ms presently, I'm just stuck using my Contax G2.
Oh darn.
My friend has been going on about wanting a Ricoh GR II for a while for the same reason you mentioned.
Here is another scan (BEOON + M10 + Focotar 2) a Kodachrome 25 slide, a few years before the last one. On seeing this one my son said, "I haven't read The Jungle Book for a while." This was taken with the M3 and a Summicron 50 lens.
I like it. Thanks for sharing. Mitch Alland wrote:
Here is another scan (BEOON + M10 + Focotar 2) a Kodachrome 25 slide, a few years before the last one. On seeing this one my son said, "I haven't read The Jungle Book for a while." This was taken with the M3 and a Summicron 50 lens.
I've now scanned some 300 old frames of transparency film (Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Agfa Scala) with the BEOON + M10 + Focotar 2, and intend to post some of the more interesting ones. Below are the first two from Ghana, shot with the M3 and Summicron 50 in a neighborhood behind my hotel in Accra, in 1976.