Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
p.1442 #1Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Another shot with the M246 and this time the Zeiss C Biogon 21/4.5.
Zeiss C Biogon 21/4.5 - Lofoten Skagsanden
Apr 21, 2017 at 12:07 PM
p.1442 #2Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
OleAndre wrote:
Abram, the photos you took with the M-A from the beach on the last page: please stop posting shots like that - they give me serious GAS
Jokes aside, I really like like the emotion from those shots. Classic, grainy, and lovely grey tones. I have been looking at an M3, an M6 and even an M7 for some time, so when you post stuff like that its very hard to resist!All the best,
Ole
Just follow your heart, Ole
A beautiful shot above, btw!
Apr 21, 2017 at 12:10 PM
p.1442 #3Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
You don't see too many Film Ms at track days, people were looking at me funny.
Leica M2, Portra 400 (Not the best choice for a bright sunny day), Voigtlander 35mm 2.5
GEN1 CTS-V BurnOut by Rene Osman, on Flickr
RED CTS-V BurnOut by Rene Osman, on Flickr
Old school Track Car by Rene Osman, on Flickr
Old School BurnOut by Rene Osman, on Flickr
Leica M2, Portra 400 (Not the best choice for a bright sunny day), Voigtlander 35mm 2.5
GEN1 CTS-V BurnOut by Rene Osman, on FlickrRED CTS-V BurnOut by Rene Osman, on FlickrOld school Track Car by Rene Osman, on FlickrOld School BurnOut by Rene Osman, on FlickrApr 21, 2017 at 01:00 PM
p.1442 #4Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
OleAndre wrote:
Abram, the photos you took with the M-A from the beach on the last page: please stop posting shots like that - they give me serious GAS Jokes aside, I really like like the emotion from those shots. Classic, grainy, and lovely grey tones. I have been looking at an M3, an M6 and even an M7 for some time, so when you post stuff like that its very hard to resist!
All the best,
Ole
Thanks Ole! I just enjoy the film process regardless of the results. The M-A is supremely satisfying to shoot with but the same can be achieved through any Leica film body (let alone any film body period). I kept my M-A over the MP (after deciding to sell one) because receiving my M-A marked a significant moment in my life and personal journey and now that there are memories attached to it, I can't let it go, despite how much I really loved my MP and even went as far as to customize it to my liking. I like the older bodies quite a bit actually, and for actual USE the M4-2 and M4-P represent hard-to-ignore bargains (I got my M4-P for an incredibly low price). They may not be the "prettiest" Leicas but they work just as well as the rest and I needed a second body on hand that wasn't so costly.
So all of that to say, if you're itching to try a film M, do it! They are wonderful machines, and if you shop right you can find one for a very reasonable price (in Leica terms). I paid a lot less for the M4-P knowing it needed a little bit of work, but the basic mechanics were sound so it's minor fixes and a minor investment on top of an already low purchase price.
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As an aside, I decided to try making a new correction profile for the Super Angulon 21mm on the M240. I started with the 21mm Elmarit (11134) profile as a base and then did the same calibration images I shot before (might need to do one more round as I saw some slight shadows after the fact) but I'm finding it did a better job this time around at removing both the heavy vignetting in the corners and the "Italian Flag" color cast. I do still see slightly "dead" colors in the edges meaning they turn a bit grey, but I think for the most part it will be fine. I need to get out and shoot with it to really test it out.
Abram, the photos you took with the M-A from the beach on the last page: please stop posting shots like that - they give me serious GAS
Jokes aside, I really like like the emotion from those shots. Classic, grainy, and lovely grey tones. I have been looking at an M3, an M6 and even an M7 for some time, so when you post stuff like that its very hard to resist!All the best,
Ole
Thanks Ole! I just enjoy the film process regardless of the results. The M-A is supremely satisfying to shoot with but the same can be achieved through any Leica film body (let alone any film body period). I kept my M-A over the MP (after deciding to sell one) because receiving my M-A marked a significant moment in my life and personal journey and now that there are memories attached to it, I can't let it go, despite how much I really loved my MP and even went as far as to customize it to my liking. I like the older bodies quite a bit actually, and for actual USE the M4-2 and M4-P represent hard-to-ignore bargains (I got my M4-P for an incredibly low price). They may not be the "prettiest" Leicas but they work just as well as the rest and I needed a second body on hand that wasn't so costly.
So all of that to say, if you're itching to try a film M, do it! They are wonderful machines, and if you shop right you can find one for a very reasonable price (in Leica terms). I paid a lot less for the M4-P knowing it needed a little bit of work, but the basic mechanics were sound so it's minor fixes and a minor investment on top of an already low purchase price.
_____________________________
As an aside, I decided to try making a new correction profile for the Super Angulon 21mm on the M240. I started with the 21mm Elmarit (11134) profile as a base and then did the same calibration images I shot before (might need to do one more round as I saw some slight shadows after the fact) but I'm finding it did a better job this time around at removing both the heavy vignetting in the corners and the "Italian Flag" color cast. I do still see slightly "dead" colors in the edges meaning they turn a bit grey, but I think for the most part it will be fine. I need to get out and shoot with it to really test it out.
Apr 21, 2017 at 01:28 PM
p.1442 #7Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
M240 and 50 Lux ASPH experimenting with an LED panel
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Apr 22, 2017 at 12:07 AM
Apr 22, 2017 at 12:09 AM
p.1442 #10Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AbramG wrote:
Jokes aside, I really like like the emotion from those shots. Classic, grainy, and lovely grey tones. I have been looking at an M3, an M6 and even an M7 for some time, so when you post stuff like that its very hard to resist!
All the best,
OleThanks Ole! I just enjoy the film process regardless of the results. The M-A is supremely satisfying to shoot with but the same can be achieved through any Leica film body (let alone any film body period). I kept my M-A over the MP (after deciding to sell one) because receiving my M-A marked a significant moment in my life and personal journey and now that there are memories attached to it, I can't let it go, despite how much I really loved my MP and even went as far as to customize it to my liking. I like the...Show more →
Very interesting to read about experience Abram. What was it about the MP that you liked so much, relative to the MA?
In recent years I have played around with film cameras just a tiny bit. A few years ago my wife bought me a Seagull medium format camera that I really enjoyed using, and the photos - while not being technically good - had so much charm and personality. Today the Seagull is resting, and I might pick it up again in a few years, as I am mostly looking for a film camera that I can use my M lenses with. A late version M3 and the M6 (with 0.85 viewfinder) are my preferred options, as I would use it mostly with a 50mm lens. My gut feeling tell me that I would enjoy an M3 more, but I am somewhat uncertain about what a fair price would be for a camera that is in good condition (by good condition I mean both mechanically and the exterior.
Any of you have experience with this? There is one on sale locally in Norway now, selling for around 2000 USD. Its more or less in mint condition, and it has all the updates that I look for. But still, 2000 USD is a lot of money.
All the best,
Ole
OleAndre wrote
Abram, the photos you took with the M-A from the beach on the last page: please stop posting shots like that - they give me serious GAS Jokes aside, I really like like the emotion from those shots. Classic, grainy, and lovely grey tones. I have been looking at an M3, an M6 and even an M7 for some time, so when you post stuff like that its very hard to resist!All the best,
Ole
Very interesting to read about experience Abram. What was it about the MP that you liked so much, relative to the MA?
In recent years I have played around with film cameras just a tiny bit. A few years ago my wife bought me a Seagull medium format camera that I really enjoyed using, and the photos - while not being technically good - had so much charm and personality. Today the Seagull is resting, and I might pick it up again in a few years, as I am mostly looking for a film camera that I can use my M lenses with. A late version M3 and the M6 (with 0.85 viewfinder) are my preferred options, as I would use it mostly with a 50mm lens. My gut feeling tell me that I would enjoy an M3 more, but I am somewhat uncertain about what a fair price would be for a camera that is in good condition (by good condition I mean both mechanically and the exterior.
Any of you have experience with this? There is one on sale locally in Norway now, selling for around 2000 USD. Its more or less in mint condition, and it has all the updates that I look for. But still, 2000 USD is a lot of money.
All the best,
Ole
Apr 22, 2017 at 04:07 AM
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p.1442 #11Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
OleAndre wrote:
AbramG wrote
OleAndre wrote
Abram, the photos you took with the M-A from the beach on the last page: please stop posting shots like that - they give me serious GAS Jokes aside, I really like like the emotion from those shots. Classic, grainy, and lovely grey tones. I have been looking at an M3, an M6 and even an M7 for some time, so when you post stuff like that its very hard to resist!All the best,
Ole
So all of that to say, if you're itching to try a film M, do it! They are wonderful machines, and if you shop right you can find one for a very reasonable price (in Leica terms). I paid a lot less for the M4-P knowing it needed a little bit of work, but the basic mechanics were sound so it's minor fixes and a minor investment on top of an already low purchase price.
_____________________________
As an aside, I decided to try making a new correction profile for the Super Angulon 21mm on the M240. I started with the 21mm Elmarit (11134) profile as a base and then did the same calibration images I shot before (might need to do one more round as I saw some slight shadows after the fact) but I'm finding it did a better job this time around at removing both the heavy vignetting in the corners and the "Italian Flag" color cast. I do still see slightly "dead" colors in the edges meaning they turn a bit grey, but I think for the most part it will be fine. I need to get out and shoot with it to really test it out.
In recent years I have played around with film cameras just a tiny bit. A few years ago my wife bought me a Seagull medium format camera that I really enjoyed using, and the photos - while not being technically good - had so much charm and personality. Today the Seagull is resting, and I might pick it up again in a few years, as I am mostly looking for a film camera that I can use my M...Show more →
For this price, it better be in top top condition.
Apr 22, 2017 at 04:28 AM
p.1442 #12Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
edwardkaraa wrote:
OleAndre wrote
AbramG wrote
OleAndre wrote
Abram, the photos you took with the M-A from the beach on the last page: please stop posting shots like that - they give me serious GAS Jokes aside, I really like like the emotion from those shots. Classic, grainy, and lovely grey tones. I have been looking at an M3, an M6 and even an M7 for some time, so when you post stuff like that its very hard to resist!All the best,
Ole
So all of that to say, if you're itching to try a film M, do it! They are wonderful machines, and if you shop right you can find one for a very reasonable price (in Leica terms). I paid a lot less for the M4-P knowing it needed a little bit of work, but the basic mechanics were sound so it's minor fixes and a minor investment on top of an already low purchase price.
_____________________________
As an aside, I decided to try making a new correction profile for the Super Angulon 21mm on the M240. I started with the 21mm Elmarit (11134) profile as a base and then did the same calibration images I shot before (might need to do one more round as I saw some slight shadows after the fact) but I'm finding it did a better job this time around at removing both the heavy vignetting in the corners and the "Italian Flag" color cast. I do still see slightly "dead" colors in the edges meaning they turn a bit grey, but I think for the most part it will be fine. I need to get out and shoot with it to really test it out.
In recent years I have played around with film cameras just a tiny bit. A few years ago my wife bought me a Seagull medium format camera that I really enjoyed using, and the photos - while not being technically good - had so much charm and personality. Today the Seagull is resting, and I might pick it up again in a few years, as I am mostly looking for a film camera that I can use my M lenses with. A late version M3 and the M6 (with 0.85 viewfinder) are my preferred options, as I would use it mostly with a 50mm lens. My gut feeling tell me that I would enjoy an M3 more, but I am somewhat uncertain about what a fair price would be for a camera that is in good condition (by good condition I mean both mechanically and the exterior.
Any of you have experience with this? There is one on sale locally in Norway now, selling for around 2000 USD. Its more or less in mint condition, and it has all the updates that I look for. But still, 2000 USD is a lot of money.
All the best,
Ole
Thanks, actually, I did the currency conversion a bit wrong, it's more like 1700. But that's still fairly pricy if you ask me.
It has recently been sent in for CLA, and the mechanics are reported to be good. Viewfinder clear of dust and rangefinder works as it should. But the body has three scratches and the leather is still the original from mid 1960s.
The challenge about buying these cameras in Norway is that the domestic market is relatively thin, and when we buy from abroad we have to pay 25 percent VAT on top...
Apr 22, 2017 at 06:12 AM
p.1442 #13Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Ole, for me the MP was a "dream camera" it was the first leica I ever saw when I went to photography school 13 years ago. My school had an enormous equipment library available for students to check out and I was immediately smitten with the Leica. I saved the brochure vowing one day I would buy one when I could afford it. It would be 10 years before I got my first Leica as it was always the "wrong time" since I was using an extensive catalog of Canon equipment for my professional work.
Anyways I eventually got the camera to go with my brochure and I loved it. But the more I shoot with Leicas the less I feel the need to have a light meter in the camera. That's a big reason why I kept the M-A over the MP (that and the previously mentioned emotional attachment). You could just remove the batteries but then the bottom line of the 28 & 35 framelines are not solid (as that's where the meter LEDs reside) and that did annoy me to be honest.
As to the M3 vs M6 with the .85 I would hands down but the M3 if you're really only going to use a 50. I only had my M3 for a couple months but I loved the viewfinder. I'd definitely buy another one but I would wait until one could be found for a good price. I think at $1700 USD you better receive one that's a time capsule lol!
Anyways I eventually got the camera to go with my brochure and I loved it. But the more I shoot with Leicas the less I feel the need to have a light meter in the camera. That's a big reason why I kept the M-A over the MP (that and the previously mentioned emotional attachment). You could just remove the batteries but then the bottom line of the 28 & 35 framelines are not solid (as that's where the meter LEDs reside) and that did annoy me to be honest.
As to the M3 vs M6 with the .85 I would hands down but the M3 if you're really only going to use a 50. I only had my M3 for a couple months but I loved the viewfinder. I'd definitely buy another one but I would wait until one could be found for a good price. I think at $1700 USD you better receive one that's a time capsule lol!
Apr 22, 2017 at 07:45 AM
p.1442 #14Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
OleAndre wrote:
edwardkaraa wrote
OleAndre wrote
AbramG wrote
OleAndre wrote
Abram, the photos you took with the M-A from the beach on the last page: please stop posting shots like that - they give me serious GAS Jokes aside, I really like like the emotion from those shots. Classic, grainy, and lovely grey tones. I have been looking at an M3, an M6 and even an M7 for some time, so when you post stuff like that its very hard to resist!All the best,
Ole
So all of that to say, if you're itching to try a film M, do it! They are wonderful machines, and if you shop right you can find one for a very reasonable price (in Leica terms). I paid a lot less for the M4-P knowing it needed a little bit of work, but the basic mechanics were sound so it's minor fixes and a minor investment on top of an already low purchase price.
_____________________________
As an aside, I decided to try making a new correction profile for the Super Angulon 21mm on the M240. I started with the 21mm Elmarit (11134) profile as a base and then did the same calibration images I shot before (might need to do one more round as I saw some slight shadows after the fact) but I'm finding it did a better job this time around at removing both the heavy vignetting in the corners and the "Italian Flag" color cast. I do still see slightly "dead" colors in the edges meaning they turn a bit grey, but I think for the most part it will be fine. I need to get out and shoot with it to really test it out.
In recent years I have played around with film cameras just a tiny bit. A few years ago my wife bought me a Seagull medium format camera that I really enjoyed using, and the photos - while not being technically good - had so much charm and personality. Today the Seagull is resting, and I might pick it up again in a few years, as I am mostly looking for a film camera that I can use my M lenses with. A late version M3 and the M6 (with 0.85 viewfinder) are my preferred options, as I would use it mostly with a 50mm lens. My gut feeling tell me that I would enjoy an M3 more, but I am somewhat uncertain about what a fair price would be for a camera that is in good condition (by good condition I mean both mechanically and the exterior.
Any of you have experience with this? There is one on sale locally in Norway now, selling for around 2000 USD. Its more or less in mint condition, and it has all the updates that I look for. But still, 2000 USD is a lot of money.
All the best,
Ole
It has recently been sent in for CLA, and the mechanics are reported to be good. Viewfinder clear of dust and rangefinder works as it should. But the body has three scratches and the leather is still the original from mid 1960s.
The challenge about buying these cameras in Norway is that the domestic market is relatively thin, and when we buy from abroad we have to pay 25 percent VAT on top...
To put things in perspective, I ordered a mint M7 from Hong Kong for 1920$ including shipping to Bangkok, and another Ex+ for 1750$. The seller declared each at 100$ so I paid a ridiculously small amount of tax.
Apr 22, 2017 at 09:28 AM
p.1442 #16Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AbramG wrote:
Ole, for me the MP was a "dream camera" it was the first leica I ever saw when I went to photography school 13 years ago. My school had an enormous equipment library available for students to check out and I was immediately smitten with the Leica. I saved the brochure vowing one day I would buy one when I could afford it. It would be 10 years before I got my first Leica as it was always the "wrong time" since I was using an extensive catalog of Canon equipment for my professional work.
Anyways I eventually got the...Show more →
Very interesting story! You seem to have much more patience than me, waiting 10 years to get your dream camera is impressive
Point taken, 1700 USD is a lot for the M3. I have searched around a page for second hand gear in Hong Kong now, as I am heading there in June and July to visit my in-laws. There seem to be a few good options there, substantially better priced than the one here in Norway. Two months waiting should be good for me
Ole, for me the MP was a "dream camera" it was the first leica I ever saw when I went to photography school 13 years ago. My school had an enormous equipment library available for students to check out and I was immediately smitten with the Leica. I saved the brochure vowing one day I would buy one when I could afford it. It would be 10 years before I got my first Leica as it was always the "wrong time" since I was using an extensive catalog of Canon equipment for my professional work.
Anyways I eventually got the...Show more →
Very interesting story! You seem to have much more patience than me, waiting 10 years to get your dream camera is impressive
Point taken, 1700 USD is a lot for the M3. I have searched around a page for second hand gear in Hong Kong now, as I am heading there in June and July to visit my in-laws. There seem to be a few good options there, substantially better priced than the one here in Norway. Two months waiting should be good for me
Apr 22, 2017 at 12:16 PM
p.1442 #17Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
edwardkaraa wrote:
To put things in perspective, I ordered a mint M7 from Hong Kong for 1920$ including shipping to Bangkok, and another Ex+ for 1750$. The seller declared each at 100$ so I paid a ridiculously small amount of tax.
Thats a good comparison Edward. And Hong Kong is a mecca for second hand photo gear. Large enough supply to keep prices low.
To put things in perspective, I ordered a mint M7 from Hong Kong for 1920$ including shipping to Bangkok, and another Ex+ for 1750$. The seller declared each at 100$ so I paid a ridiculously small amount of tax.
Thats a good comparison Edward. And Hong Kong is a mecca for second hand photo gear. Large enough supply to keep prices low.
Apr 22, 2017 at 12:18 PM
p.1442 #18Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Well best of luck in the search! Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Not that I'm a definitive resource but I have used my share of equipment enough to have opinions and experience with most.
Apr 22, 2017 at 01:13 PM
p.1442 #19Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Thank you so much Abram! That will be a tremendous help
Apr 22, 2017 at 01:37 PM
p.1442 #20Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Time for some pictures again. Ever since I bought the M246 I have been planning to buy a 28mm to supplement my Zeiss Distagon 35/1.4. The Zeiss is a fantastic and versatile lens, but that comes at the expense of size. I dont find it bothersome to walk around with, on the contrary, but I will not bring it when going hiking in the mountains. Then every gram counts. Hence the need for a smaller and lighter lens. I opted for a 28mm because I often find 28-50 space better than 35-50. That way I could couple the 28mm with my Summicron 50.
In end the end I opted for the newest version of the Elmarit 28 Asph. Image quality between the older and the newest version is not very different, but comparisons I have seen show an improvement in resolution towards the edges. The new metal hood is also a plus I think.
When comparing the Elmarit with the Distagon I have been very impressed. The Elmarit is equally sharp as the Distagon at f4.0 in the center, but out-resolves the Distagon midfield. This is the case for smaller apertures also. Towards the edges the Distagon out-resolves the Elmarit, but not by much. In my opinion midfield resolution is more important than edge resolution, so I think the Elmarit is actually the better lens of the two for landscapes. I also think that the Elmarit has somewhat higher contrast than the Distagon, but that is of less importance I think since contrast is easier to change in post than resolution.
A few pictures:
Leica Elmarit 28 Asph. v2 - Oslo Opera
Leica Elmarit 28 Asph. V2 - Oslo Barcode
In end the end I opted for the newest version of the Elmarit 28 Asph. Image quality between the older and the newest version is not very different, but comparisons I have seen show an improvement in resolution towards the edges. The new metal hood is also a plus I think.
When comparing the Elmarit with the Distagon I have been very impressed. The Elmarit is equally sharp as the Distagon at f4.0 in the center, but out-resolves the Distagon midfield. This is the case for smaller apertures also. Towards the edges the Distagon out-resolves the Elmarit, but not by much. In my opinion midfield resolution is more important than edge resolution, so I think the Elmarit is actually the better lens of the two for landscapes. I also think that the Elmarit has somewhat higher contrast than the Distagon, but that is of less importance I think since contrast is easier to change in post than resolution.
A few pictures:
Apr 22, 2017 at 02:26 PM