Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
p.1434 #1Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Gary Clennan wrote:
edwardkaraa wrote
A few recent portraits:https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2840/33736057592_76519fdc5e_o.jpgM7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3684/33851478896_e7f0a3eabc_o.jpgM7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3947/33851478866_55eeeeb748_o.jpgM7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2846/33851478836_82735dd6a8_o.jpgM7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
Apr 07, 2017 at 08:06 PM
p.1434 #2Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
I love that WA beach shot Abram. Perhaps I should use my converted Contax G21 for monochrome output only, since the edges remain a little problematic, even with compensating images during PP.
More great film output from you Edward.
Copious 'likes' aded to other contributions.
More great film output from you Edward.
Copious 'likes' aded to other contributions.
Apr 08, 2017 at 01:30 AM
p.1434 #3Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
lenticular11 wrote:
I love that WA beach shot Abram. Perhaps I should use my converted Contax G21 for monochrome output only, since the edges remain a little problematic, even with compensating images during PP.
More great film output from you Edward.
Copious 'likes' aded to other contributions.
Thank you very much David!
Apr 08, 2017 at 02:15 AM
p.1434 #4Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Les Arènes d'Arles
Toro's Entrance by Werner Utsch, on Flickr
Monochrom, Summieren M 90/2.0
Apr 08, 2017 at 03:32 AM
p.1434 #5Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Thanks for all the great feedback with likes on my recently posted photos a few pages back! Here a few more from my trip to NYC last weekend. They were taken with FP4+ 125 film and pushed to ISO 200, developed in Rodinal. So far this one is my favorite B&W film of the ones I tried. It gives some grain but not too overwhelming in the photos, the tonal range is excellent.
All taken with Leica M7, Leica 35/2 vers. IV lens
All taken with Leica M7, Leica 35/2 vers. IV lens
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Apr 08, 2017 at 07:28 AM
p.1434 #6Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
lenticular11 wrote:
I love that WA beach shot Abram. Perhaps I should use my converted Contax G21 for monochrome output only, since the edges remain a little problematic, even with compensating images during PP.
Thanks David! I have been able to also largely tame it in color as well using Adobe Flat Field, the profile I made allows for one-click fixing essentially. However, I find that the "trouble" shows up when I try to remove the "character" of the SA21 which is pretty noticeable vignetting. Typically I don't mind and even like vignetting and I have been really enjoying the interesting look of the SA21 on film, but this was more of a test to see if the profile could remove the vignetting altogether. It appears to be visible on the right side of the frame but it was particularly hazy at the beach yesterday so I think that was influencing the frame.
Either way, it's very easy to work with the lens in black and white, and with a little care it's workable in color too! I would definitely give the Contax Biogon a try because that is a seriously GREAT lens in its own right.
I love that WA beach shot Abram. Perhaps I should use my converted Contax G21 for monochrome output only, since the edges remain a little problematic, even with compensating images during PP.
Thanks David! I have been able to also largely tame it in color as well using Adobe Flat Field, the profile I made allows for one-click fixing essentially. However, I find that the "trouble" shows up when I try to remove the "character" of the SA21 which is pretty noticeable vignetting. Typically I don't mind and even like vignetting and I have been really enjoying the interesting look of the SA21 on film, but this was more of a test to see if the profile could remove the vignetting altogether. It appears to be visible on the right side of the frame but it was particularly hazy at the beach yesterday so I think that was influencing the frame.
Either way, it's very easy to work with the lens in black and white, and with a little care it's workable in color too! I would definitely give the Contax Biogon a try because that is a seriously GREAT lens in its own right.
Apr 08, 2017 at 09:19 AM
p.1434 #7Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Awesome work everyone!
Some more with the M7 and Zeiss 50 combo:
M7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on Flickr
Some more with the M7 and Zeiss 50 combo:
M7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on FlickrM7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on FlickrM7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on FlickrM7 ZM 50/2 Delta 400 by edward karaa, on FlickrApr 08, 2017 at 09:52 AM
p.1434 #8Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AbramG wrote:
Thanks David! I have been able to also largely tame it in color as well using Adobe Flat Field, the profile I made allows for one-click fixing essentially. However, I find that the "trouble" shows up when I try to remove the "character" of the SA21 which is pretty noticeable vignetting. Typically I don't mind and even like vignetting and I have been really enjoying the interesting look of the SA21 on film, but this was more of a test to see if the profile could remove the vignetting altogether. It appears to be visible on the right side of...Show more →
Abram, That's an interesting comment about the right side of the frame in your findings with the SA21, because I definitely have more issue with the right of my Contax G21 Biogon images than the left, when applying an LCC correction in Capture One Pro 10. I also have the monthly PS and LR subscription so I must try the equivalent fix in LR.
I need to keep using the G21 after the combined cost of buying one (albeit at a good price) and the expensive and largely undocumented DIY Hawks helicoid LM conversion kit.
I do love its performance in all other regards. I must check it out with monochrome film too. It works very well on the Ricoh GXR with an equivalent FOV of 35mm and of course edge performance is no longer a factor.
Here's a 2-shot stitch on the GXR, in infrared.
Mt. Stromlo view to Mt. Tennant by David M, on Flickr
On my recently sold M9. In the full-size original image I can discern two wedgetailed eagles (Aquila audax), probably the pair local to the area.
A soaring sky at Bunyan Airfield by David M, on Flickr
Edited on Apr 08, 2017 at 06:59 PM · View previous versions
lenticular11 wrote
I love that WA beach shot Abram. Perhaps I should use my converted Contax G21 for monochrome output only, since the edges remain a little problematic, even with compensating images during PP.Abram, That's an interesting comment about the right side of the frame in your findings with the SA21, because I definitely have more issue with the right of my Contax G21 Biogon images than the left, when applying an LCC correction in Capture One Pro 10. I also have the monthly PS and LR subscription so I must try the equivalent fix in LR.
I need to keep using the G21 after the combined cost of buying one (albeit at a good price) and the expensive and largely undocumented DIY Hawks helicoid LM conversion kit.
I do love its performance in all other regards. I must check it out with monochrome film too. It works very well on the Ricoh GXR with an equivalent FOV of 35mm and of course edge performance is no longer a factor.
Here's a 2-shot stitch on the GXR, in infrared.
Mt. Stromlo view to Mt. Tennant by David M, on FlickrOn my recently sold M9. In the full-size original image I can discern two wedgetailed eagles (Aquila audax), probably the pair local to the area.
A soaring sky at Bunyan Airfield by David M, on FlickrEdited on Apr 08, 2017 at 06:59 PM · View previous versions
Apr 08, 2017 at 03:21 PM
p.1434 #9Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Retrofocus - I love your last set, particularly 1 and 3.
Edward - 3 and 4 really appeal.
It's clearly de rigeur now to shoot mono film on an M7 😎
Edward - 3 and 4 really appeal.
It's clearly de rigeur now to shoot mono film on an M7 😎
Apr 08, 2017 at 04:37 PM
p.1434 #10Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Since I sold my MP, I keep wanting to buy a second film body but I'm also trying to tell myself I don't need more than the M-A. At the moment it's a losing argument (with myself).
David as to my comment on the right side of the frame, on that particular image I did both falloff and color cast correction and when working on my Monochrome conversion I added in a touch of vignetting to help with the "over correction". However, the sky was particularly strange yesterday in that there was patchy blue sky off to the south and east, but off to the west it was pure haze.
I have noticed that the edges of the frame are definitely not as detailed as the center, but frankly I don't think I care too much, I love the compact size of the SA21 and its character is really enjoyable.
David as to my comment on the right side of the frame, on that particular image I did both falloff and color cast correction and when working on my Monochrome conversion I added in a touch of vignetting to help with the "over correction". However, the sky was particularly strange yesterday in that there was patchy blue sky off to the south and east, but off to the west it was pure haze.
I have noticed that the edges of the frame are definitely not as detailed as the center, but frankly I don't think I care too much, I love the compact size of the SA21 and its character is really enjoyable.
Apr 08, 2017 at 08:12 PM
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p.1434 #11Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Couldn't pass up an opportunity to play for the trees. Shot with the Q.
@mister.shu
@mister.shu
Apr 08, 2017 at 09:22 PM
p.1434 #14Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
More from wandering around San Francisco
Diner Dreams by Alpha Geist, on Flickr
Paranoia by Alpha Geist, on Flickr
Fresh Mangos by Alpha Geist, on Flickr
Don't Wake the Baby by Alpha Geist, on Flickr
Diner Dreams by Alpha Geist, on Flickr
Paranoia by Alpha Geist, on Flickr
Fresh Mangos by Alpha Geist, on Flickr
Don't Wake the Baby by Alpha Geist, on Flickr
Apr 09, 2017 at 01:58 AM
p.1434 #15Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
lenticular11 wrote:
Thanks David! I have been able to also largely tame it in color as well using Adobe Flat Field, the profile I made allows for one-click fixing essentially. However, I find that the "trouble" shows up when I try to remove the "character" of the SA21 which is pretty noticeable vignetting. Typically I don't mind and even like vignetting and I have been really enjoying the interesting look of the SA21 on film, but this was more of a test to see if the profile could remove the vignetting altogether. It appears to be visible on the right side of the frame but it was particularly hazy at the beach yesterday so I think that was influencing the frame.
Either way, it's very easy to work with the lens in black and white, and with a little care it's workable in color too! I would definitely give the Contax Biogon a try because that is a seriously GREAT lens in its own right.Abram, That's an interesting comment about the right side of the frame in your findings with the SA21, because I definitely have more issue with the right of my Contax G21 Biogon images than the left, when applying an LCC correction in Capture One Pro 10. I also have the monthly PS and LR subscription so I must try the equivalent fix in LR.
David and Abram, very interesting to read that you both experience some differences in terms of how your wides behave from left to right. On my C Biogon 21/4.5 I also experience this to some degree, with the left and right sides being exposed differently . Also, when applying the a standard lens correction in Lightroom the left side shows a very different reaction than the right side. Sometimes this is shown as below, other times a weird banding pattern may occur, with the latter being particularly evident when using ND filters.
My theory for the C Biogon is that the difference from left to right is simply due to light leakages. But I also get light leakages with other lenses, but then without the symptoms that I describe above...
Zeiss C Biogon 21-4.5 - Uneven left to right
All the best,
Ole
AbramG wrote
lenticular11 wrote
I love that WA beach shot Abram. Perhaps I should use my converted Contax G21 for monochrome output only, since the edges remain a little problematic, even with compensating images during PP.Either way, it's very easy to work with the lens in black and white, and with a little care it's workable in color too! I would definitely give the Contax Biogon a try because that is a seriously GREAT lens in its own right.
David and Abram, very interesting to read that you both experience some differences in terms of how your wides behave from left to right. On my C Biogon 21/4.5 I also experience this to some degree, with the left and right sides being exposed differently . Also, when applying the a standard lens correction in Lightroom the left side shows a very different reaction than the right side. Sometimes this is shown as below, other times a weird banding pattern may occur, with the latter being particularly evident when using ND filters.
My theory for the C Biogon is that the difference from left to right is simply due to light leakages. But I also get light leakages with other lenses, but then without the symptoms that I describe above...
All the best,
Ole
Apr 09, 2017 at 02:16 AM
p.1434 #16Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
I confess Ole, I cannot actually recognise the problem in the above image! It's another great image by the way!
Apr 09, 2017 at 02:49 AM
p.1434 #17Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
lenticular11 wrote:
I confess Ole, I cannot actually recognise the problem in the above image! It's another great image by the way!
Thank you very much David What I see is an area to the left, not all the way to the edge but a few centimeters away from it, that has a higher exposure level than the areas around it. I particularly see it in the upper left, but also see some unevenness further below.
I confess Ole, I cannot actually recognise the problem in the above image! It's another great image by the way!
Thank you very much David
What I see is an area to the left, not all the way to the edge but a few centimeters away from it, that has a higher exposure level than the areas around it. I particularly see it in the upper left, but also see some unevenness further below. Apr 09, 2017 at 02:55 AM
p.1434 #18Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Val d'Orcia, Tuscany
Alba Belvedere by Werner Utsch, on Flickr
S 006, Apo-Macro Summarit S 120/2.5
Pano 4 shots, tripod
Apr 09, 2017 at 03:40 AM
p.1434 #19Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Adam, those M10 results are outstanding. I really like the diner and mango photos.
Werner - another beautiful Tuscan landscape.
Yes Ole, I believe I see what you describe now, although the dramatic lighting of the scene may qualify you to recognise any deviation from the view you photographed.
Unfortunately what I see from the G21 on the M is somewhat worse than it was on the M9.
I expect that the MM and M246 sensors must behave quite differently to a conventional Bayer colour filter array, although perhaps, conversely, the vignetting and colour smearing on CFAs is due principally to microlens design and performance. I don't know enough about sensor design and construction to know what factors dominate!
Here are two resized camera-jpeg images with the G21on my M240, albeit with a suboptimal lens code(the ASPH version of the Elmarit-M 21). I believe the worse right hand performance is evident. I'll use messaging to carry on this discussion should we feel the need, to avoid cluttering up this thread
A resized version of the jpeg output for a G21-M240 pairing (suboptimal lens code)
A resized version of the jpeg output for a G21-M240 pairing (suboptimal lens code)
Werner - another beautiful Tuscan landscape.
Yes Ole, I believe I see what you describe now, although the dramatic lighting of the scene may qualify you to recognise any deviation from the view you photographed.
Unfortunately what I see from the G21 on the M is somewhat worse than it was on the M9.
I expect that the MM and M246 sensors must behave quite differently to a conventional Bayer colour filter array, although perhaps, conversely, the vignetting and colour smearing on CFAs is due principally to microlens design and performance. I don't know enough about sensor design and construction to know what factors dominate!
Here are two resized camera-jpeg images with the G21on my M240, albeit with a suboptimal lens code(the ASPH version of the Elmarit-M 21). I believe the worse right hand performance is evident. I'll use messaging to carry on this discussion should we feel the need, to avoid cluttering up this thread
A resized version of the jpeg output for a G21-M240 pairing (suboptimal lens code)
A resized version of the jpeg output for a G21-M240 pairing (suboptimal lens code)
Apr 09, 2017 at 04:48 AM
p.1434 #20Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
OleAndre wrote:
Thank you very much David What I see is an area to the left, not all the way to the edge but a few centimeters away from it, that has a higher exposure level than the areas around it. I particularly see it in the upper left, but also see some unevenness further below.
I can see it, but it's not a ruined image as a result! That was kind of my point too, despite noticing an uneven behavior I don't mind it. I do very much prefer the way the SA21 and 35mm Summilux Pre-Asph render in black and white though, I haven't quite grasped shooting color with them yet.
Ole, as ever, your work is beautiful my friend. You're selling me on the M246
Also David, have you tried it uncoded? I'm using my SA21 uncoded as there didn't seem to be one that would have been suitable.
Anyways as I mentioned, I'm very much a Monochrome shooter (at least for the vast majority of my personal work) and the SA21 works JUST fine in that regard on my 240
Ok I've side-tracked us enough! Back to the pics!
lenticular11 wrote
I confess Ole, I cannot actually recognise the problem in the above image! It's another great image by the way! What I see is an area to the left, not all the way to the edge but a few centimeters away from it, that has a higher exposure level than the areas around it. I particularly see it in the upper left, but also see some unevenness further below. I can see it, but it's not a ruined image as a result! That was kind of my point too, despite noticing an uneven behavior I don't mind it. I do very much prefer the way the SA21 and 35mm Summilux Pre-Asph render in black and white though, I haven't quite grasped shooting color with them yet.
Ole, as ever, your work is beautiful my friend. You're selling me on the M246
Also David, have you tried it uncoded? I'm using my SA21 uncoded as there didn't seem to be one that would have been suitable.
Anyways as I mentioned, I'm very much a Monochrome shooter (at least for the vast majority of my personal work) and the SA21 works JUST fine in that regard on my 240
Ok I've side-tracked us enough! Back to the pics!
Apr 09, 2017 at 11:27 AM