Great set Michael! You really show off the 50 Lux's goodness. Quite the transformation of your son too. Looks like your wife is good with the clippers.
I really like the colors you're producing with the M240. None of that orange pumpkin skin kind of look. What are you doing to the files in post to get the nice skin tones?
Congrats Chuck! The M240 will also be more responsive than the M9. IMO it's a massive improvement in usability.
Allen, very nice fun shot and excellent use of fill flash.
Chuck, congratulations on the article and the new camera. Love the matching tones between the bricks and shirt.
Zhangyue, glad to see you your wonderful kids photos in your unmistakable style.
Ron, Your cousin surely travels light
I'm not leaving the thread, I'll just be shooting film Ms instead so it may take me a little longer to get stuff posted . I've got a good 10 rolls to process as it is haha!
Love those last two photos! I've been shooting loads but not able to post much recently but as it's World Photography Day (apparently) here's my best effort at landscapes - I really don't do good landscapes sadly - this was taken two days ago just past sunset up in Scotland:
rscheffler wrote:
Great set Michael! You really show off the 50 Lux's goodness. Quite the transformation of your son too. Looks like your wife is good with the clippers.
I really like the colors you're producing with the M240. None of that orange pumpkin skin kind of look. What are you doing to the files in post to get the nice skin tones?
Congrats Chuck! The M240 will also be more responsive than the M9. IMO it's a massive improvement in usability.
M240 & 28 Cron
Haha, nice ‘family’ pic.
Thanks for your kind comment. Indeed 50lux is a great lens, The minor SA in close range is perfect for portrait. Bokeh is very smooth, sometime I do wish a little more character but doesn’t prevent it has one of most beautiful bokeh in 50mm range. My wife take care of whole family haircut, so she can spend all the money go out for hers She is better than most shop I can find anyway
As for M240 color, I know it is personal, I feel it has its signature and I actually like it. I like it better than S007 for portrait, but not to the level of S006 (under best light condition), the file has more latitude compare to S006 and seems easy to deal under difficult condition. WB is always with good starting point, the file is very easy to process; LR’s standard profile is good and neutral. I spend very minimal time on any of above images. Even under artificial light, the color still looks good to my eyes. My personal preference now is low contrast, low clarity, less saturation, no deep black for portrait. M240 is a good suit for me in that regard. As for skin tone, I only minor reduce orange saturation, and lift a little orange luminosity to taste, that is about it.
I haven’t taken any landscape or cityscape shot with M240 yet, but for camera, I feel more difficult to deal with portrait than other stuff, those can be taken care by PP, but it is just harder to deal with skin tone IMO. In term of comparing to M9, for color, each has its own merit, but no way I am going back, the shutter itself is reason enough for me to go with M240, not to mention now I can use LV to adapt WA on it. It is a just more completed system now. I believe it is Adam first mentioned to me he like M240 color, I guess we have the same taste on this thing.
Long post, but I hope other people will benefit from this talk.
Thanks for kind comment, Edward, I appreciate. And thanks for all the likes.
Nice images, Allen, AbramG, Chuck, Werner, Glad to see this thread still going with dominance of Sony
At least an image, both with 50lux & M240
I must get back to perusing, commenting on and even contributing to this thread!
For now let me say that Michael, your kids have 'shot up' a lot since last seeing much in the way of family photos from you! Congratulations also on buying back into the Leica RF world!
I recently bought a Pentax K-1 having been impressed by its specs, some FM opinions and posts and the need for a universal type of camera for a trip in January next year.
I fully intend however to also carry my M9 on that trip and use it for street photography at least. I still really enjoy the whole rangefinder experience and I'm also shooting film with an M2, now replaced by an M3.
Three shots from Scotland back in March (M9, with ZM25 in #1 and #3 (though possibly it was the Summarit for #3) and Summarit 50/2.4 in #2)
1. In the Tasting Room at the Lagavulin Distillery on the Hebridean island of Islay:
3. A crab at John O' Groats in the N of Scotland (for the pedants, Dunnet Head is actually the most Northerly point on the mainland of Britain, not the more known John O' Groats).
recordproducti wrote:
^^^ North of Scotland in March?!!!! Well done for being so brave
ha ha - it was great thanks. Over 10 days or so it was only wet on the day we drove up from the Ayrshire ferry from Larne (N.I.) to Argyll, and on the last day back to Cairnryan through central Scotland on the somewhat slow A9 (now with those blasted speed cameras everywhere).
recordproducti wrote:
Love those last two photos! I've been shooting loads but not able to post much recently but as it's World Photography Day (apparently) here's my best effort at landscapes - I really don't do good landscapes sadly - this was taken two days ago just past sunset up in Scotland:
Werner, I really enjoy your latest impressionistic work
Abram, nice mood!
Recordproducti, beautiful sunset, surreal colors, love it. Nice shot of your son, starting with the wrong camera though
Zhangyue, very nice shots of the kids again. The lux images are just so special, and masterful PP.
David, really like your set from Scotland. You should have switched the first and second, first the freezing cold, then the heartwarming scotch
edwardkaraa wrote:
Recordproducti, beautiful sunset, surreal colors, love it. Nice shot of your son, starting with the wrong camera though
There's no way I'm starting him off on an M As I've got a fair bit of Nikon gear I thought a cheap body that he can play with and gradually try out the better lenses before putting him in to this section of the forum! However, he already prefers to shoot in 'M' mode so signs are good!
recordproducti wrote: edwardkaraa wroteRecordproducti, beautiful sunset, surreal colors, love it. Nice shot of your son, starting with the wrong camera though There's no way I'm starting him off on an M As I've got a fair bit of Nikon gear I thought a cheap body that he can play with and gradually try out the better lenses before putting him in to this section of the forum! However, he already prefers to shoot in 'M' mode so signs are good!
Excellent strategy! We all started with basic gear and that's the way it should be
zhangyue - Yes, I believe the M240 is the best balance of good colors, reliable body and reasonable high ISO. And aside from a few problems I had early on (RF alignment issues, frame line issues). And a few problems I had later on with dead pixels and faulty LCD screens... Overall not terrible for a Leica.
I'm not getting reasonable offers for my M246, so I'm going to keep it along with the remaining lenses I have left. I think I have 20% of what I had a year ago as far as Leica gear is concern. I'm down to a 50Lux, 50APO, 75APO (from almost every current Leica lens). But I have regrets about selling the 35FLE. So I might buy that back and get rid of one of my 50mm lenses (not sure which one yet).
So it'll be M246 + 35/50/75 (and the 75APO might go since it's loved but rarely used) and nothing else for a LONG while. At least until they fire the CEO and a few of the upper management
I don't even have a M240 or M240-P anymore.. At one time I had 4-5 of them!
(Still have my S and SL kits and Q. Hard to sell right now (aside from the Q, but I'm dragging my feet on that). But considering the market, I'm quite pleased with how much stuff I've sold off.)
That is good kit for M. I would really want a color M though with those lens
I need a 35, I sold my old Leica stuff like 35cron and 50cron. I think 35 is important focal. However for landscape, I need a 21, a 15 and maybe 90/135. I really want a noct any version but that has to be postponed for its $$$$ unless I quit S.
I still feel D810 is one of best camera for everything, but I have hard time to get the portrait to my like and I don't want spend lots of time on PP. with M240, it is a few mins max for each image. Plus, 36M is over kill for me most of time, not to say 42M Sony. Again, for me, none of the image I regret it is at 12-24M but not 36-50M to any extend that I like it less. The most important aspect of image still is soul not pix or technical quality, this is even true for landscape for me I have to say, of course for me only so I might sell D810 AGAIN now that M can be adapt with WA.
I am hold my breath for new M, with good EVF, it will serve me well for all the SLR glasses I have.
It is a pity you will not get any more Leica. HAHA,
No image this time, don't want bore you guys with family stuff. adamdewilde wrote:
zhangyue - Yes, I believe the M240 is the best balance of good colors, reliable body and reasonable high ISO. And aside from a few problems I had early on (RF alignment issues, frame line issues). And a few problems I had later on with dead pixels and faulty LCD screens... Overall not terrible for a Leica.
I'm not getting reasonable offers for my M246, so I'm going to keep it along with the remaining lenses I have left. I think I have 20% of what I had a year ago as far as Leica gear is concern. I'm down to a 50Lux, 50APO, 75APO (from almost every current Leica lens). But I have regrets about selling the 35FLE. So I might buy that back and get rid of one of my 50mm lenses (not sure which one yet).
So it'll be M246 + 35/50/75 (and the 75APO might go since it's loved but rarely used) and nothing else for a LONG while. At least until they fire the CEO and a few of the upper management
I don't even have a M240 or M240-P anymore.. At one time I had 4-5 of them!
(Still have my S and SL kits and Q. Hard to sell right now (aside from the Q, but I'm dragging my feet on that). But considering the market, I'm quite pleased with how much stuff I've sold off.)...Show more →
zhangyue wrote:
That is good kit for M. I would really want a color M though with those lens
I need a 35, I sold my old Leica stuff like 35cron and 50cron. I think 35 is important focal. However for landscape, I need a 21, a 15 and maybe 90/135. I really want a noct any version but that has to be postponed for its $$$$ unless I quit S.
I still feel D810 is one of best camera for everything, but I have hard time to get the portrait to my like and I don't want spend lots of time on PP. with M240, it is a few mins max for each image. Plus, 36M is over kill for me most of time, not to say 42M Sony. Again, for me, none of the image I regret it is at 12-24M but not 36-50M to any extend that I like it less. The most important aspect of image still is soul not pix or technical quality, this is even true for landscape for me I have to say, of course for me only so I might sell D810 AGAIN now that M can be adapt with WA.
I am hold my breath for new M, with good EVF, it will serve me well for all the SLR glasses I have.
It is a pity you will not get any more Leica. HAHA,
No image this time, don't want bore you guys with family stuff. ...Show more →adamdewilde wrotezhangyue - Yes, I believe the M240 is the best balance of good colors, reliable body and reasonable high ISO. And aside from a few problems I had early on (RF alignment issues, frame line issues). And a few problems I had later on with dead pixels and faulty LCD screens... Overall not terrible for a Leica.
I'm not getting reasonable offers for my M246, so I'm going to keep it along with the remaining lenses I have left. I think I have 20% of what I had a year ago as far as Leica gear is concern. I'm down to a 50Lux, 50APO, 75APO (from almost every current Leica lens). But I have regrets about selling the 35FLE. So I might buy that back and get rid of one of my 50mm lenses (not sure which one yet).
So it'll be M246 + 35/50/75 (and the 75APO might go since it's loved but rarely used) and nothing else for a LONG while. At least until they fire the CEO and a few of the upper management
I don't even have a M240 or M240-P anymore.. At one time I had 4-5 of them!
(Still have my S and SL kits and Q. Hard to sell right now (aside from the Q, but I'm dragging my feet on that). But considering the market, I'm quite pleased with how much stuff I've sold off.)
You are right, it is a bit of a shame not having a colour M considering the lenses. But I think it's good for me. It'll ween me off the system. Eventually I'll get sick of black and white files and hopefully I'll just sell off the 35/75 and only be left with a 50mm. And when that happens, it'll just be a very basic kit for when I want to look cool and of course use an RF since I still love RF focusing. And otherwise I'll get on with whatever other gear I have since I still shoot for a living.
OR who knows maybe I'll follow in Allen's footsteps and end up with a 35FLE and will shoot the streets more!
Anyway, I still have a few (12-15) Leica items to sell. And whatever doesn't sell for reasonable prices I'll just keep and use. So chances are I'll have something other then my basic M kit. And if the SL+Zoom stays in my bag till the end of the year (if it doesn't sell), I'll probably end up buying the 50Lux-SL. Simply because it's a waste of a system that I paid good money for otherwise.
As for the Noctilux, I think the 100S is better than any version of the Noct. It's just a matter of carrying around the S-body w/100S. And if you really want shallow DOF challenge in a small package then keep using the 80Lux (cheaper, more interesting/useful).
The SL is essentially the EVF M. But a bit bigger. Truthfully it's comfortable, I've used it for a few weddings now without hand cramps. I just don't like the colours or the files in general (especially at higher ISOs). And with the 24-90 being a 2.8-4 I find myself using higher ISOs more then I'd like. So my impression of the SL's IQ has been negative thus far. Hopefully the 50Lux-SL fixes this with it's fast aperture. But I'm not really holding my breath as again the colours aren't really to my liking even when using M or R lenses on it.
I'm not a huge fan of high MP cameras (though I like the ergonomics of the D810 body). Most of my clients don't want/need files that large. I'm constantly resizing my S files as it is. And it's not even that high of an MP count when you consider other MFD cameras. So will probably just stick with the D750 cameras and 24/35/50/85 1.4G lenses. Unless these new Fuji X-T2 cameras I have on pre-order really wow me.
Since I've been talking without posting images... Here are some images from a while back (start of the year) in Japan (I hope I haven't posted them before). All with M246+50APO since it's the only Leica gear I'll have left after the remaining items sell :P maybe: