Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
p.1343 #1Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Just today I was thinking about what I could be comfortable selling off as I have more than what I need to work with. I just recently bought a 21mm but I find I hardly have touched it. I seem to live between 28/35/50mm lenses and venture out to 90mm on occasion. I also just bought a 40mm because it's so tiny and fun to use but did I really need that?
When you feel like minimizing, how do you guys decide what gets the axe?
When you feel like minimizing, how do you guys decide what gets the axe?
Jul 27, 2016 at 12:38 PM
p.1343 #2Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AbramG wrote:
Just today I was thinking about what I could be comfortable selling off as I have more than what I need to work with. I just recently bought a 21mm but I find I hardly have touched it. I seem to live between 28/35/50mm lenses and venture out to 90mm on occasion. I also just bought a 40mm because it's so tiny and fun to use but did I really need that?
When you feel like minimizing, how do you guys decide what gets the axe?
Well, the obvious part is: keep what you use. Then it's basically down to what you don't use or have other options for. E.g. I have a 21 Elmarit-M, but also have a 16-35 for Canon so for the rare occasion I need ultrawide I technically have it covered and can survive without the "Leica magic" there. For me 50 is too close to 35 to make a real difference (with 18MP I can crop to 50mm-equiv and still have enough pixels for a good size print), 28 never "clicks", wider is very rare, and if I venture past 90mm it's for birds which I have a 500/4 for.
So M9 with 35 and 90, then Canon with 16-35 and 500, pretty much has it all covered (for me!).
Just today I was thinking about what I could be comfortable selling off as I have more than what I need to work with. I just recently bought a 21mm but I find I hardly have touched it. I seem to live between 28/35/50mm lenses and venture out to 90mm on occasion. I also just bought a 40mm because it's so tiny and fun to use but did I really need that?
When you feel like minimizing, how do you guys decide what gets the axe?
Well, the obvious part is: keep what you use. Then it's basically down to what you don't use or have other options for. E.g. I have a 21 Elmarit-M, but also have a 16-35 for Canon so for the rare occasion I need ultrawide I technically have it covered and can survive without the "Leica magic" there. For me 50 is too close to 35 to make a real difference (with 18MP I can crop to 50mm-equiv and still have enough pixels for a good size print), 28 never "clicks", wider is very rare, and if I venture past 90mm it's for birds which I have a 500/4 for.
So M9 with 35 and 90, then Canon with 16-35 and 500, pretty much has it all covered (for me!).
Jul 27, 2016 at 01:00 PM
p.1343 #3Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
I only have Leica M mount stuff personally but I also just shoot for myself now. I have pairings I really like, mainly 28/50 and 35/90 but sometimes I enjoy shooting really wide when the location is appropriate.
It's funny to me how difficult it can be to let stuff go even though it's just that, stuff.
I'm also of the mindset that I prefer to work with less, yet I somehow always wind up with too much.
It's funny to me how difficult it can be to let stuff go even though it's just that, stuff.
I'm also of the mindset that I prefer to work with less, yet I somehow always wind up with too much.
Jul 27, 2016 at 05:08 PM
p.1343 #4Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
More from Pinakothek der Moderne in Munich...
M240 & 50 Lux ASPH, 90AA, 21SEM x2.
Thanks everyone for the previous likes and comments on this series!
Pingflood - love the railroad scene with the 35 Summaron. I've heard a lot of good things about this lens. Your image probably would have worked with any 35... it's definitely one where the photographer's talent shines through.
As for selling gear... I'm terrible at it. I tend to hold onto it for a long, long time. But not always. At least with Leica M my argument is most of the lenses are quite small, so there's less penalty keeping/carrying more. Back in 2010 I was thinking about adding Zeiss ZE lenses to my already extensive Canon collection. But my kit was already too heavy to carry all day, or even hours, comfortably on urban wanderings. Now I do it with 4-5 M mount lenses and an M240. Probably still way more than most Leicaphiles carry around, but it all fits in a fairly small satchel, so I'm not bothered to bring a couple extra 'just in case' lenses from time to time. Standard outfit is 21, 28, 50, 90. I often also bring the CV35/1.7 despite the narrow spacing of 28-35-50, and at times the CV15/4.5. Or rarely the 12/5.6. Maybe also the 180/3.4, though it is large and heavy (same size as my Canon 70-200/4L)... But the core set is what I use most, with it fairly split between 28 and 50 for most common usage, then 21 and finally 90.
The reluctance to sell for me is somewhat tied to the difficulty in acquiring good copies, or at good prices. I also find selling a big hassle. I prefer to sell to people I already know and have either bought or sold from before (we feed each other's GAS). Recently my local pro shop had an event attended by KEH. Though I took a bath on some items, I liquidated lesser used though relatively common CV and ZM lenses, along with some Canon EF glass I hadn't used much the past few years (including a 400/2.8 IS collecting dust). Selling to KEH was super convenient. They didn't harp about hairline scratches, cosmetic blemishes, etc.. If there was a problem with an item, they priced it accordingly and will (perhaps) fix it later if warranted. Of course I could have made more selling each individually to a dozen people here on FM, but that was the compromise I accepted.
Edited on Jul 27, 2016 at 08:43 PM · View previous versions
M240 & 50 Lux ASPH, 90AA, 21SEM x2.
Thanks everyone for the previous likes and comments on this series!
Pingflood - love the railroad scene with the 35 Summaron. I've heard a lot of good things about this lens. Your image probably would have worked with any 35... it's definitely one where the photographer's talent shines through.
As for selling gear... I'm terrible at it. I tend to hold onto it for a long, long time. But not always. At least with Leica M my argument is most of the lenses are quite small, so there's less penalty keeping/carrying more. Back in 2010 I was thinking about adding Zeiss ZE lenses to my already extensive Canon collection. But my kit was already too heavy to carry all day, or even hours, comfortably on urban wanderings. Now I do it with 4-5 M mount lenses and an M240. Probably still way more than most Leicaphiles carry around, but it all fits in a fairly small satchel, so I'm not bothered to bring a couple extra 'just in case' lenses from time to time. Standard outfit is 21, 28, 50, 90. I often also bring the CV35/1.7 despite the narrow spacing of 28-35-50, and at times the CV15/4.5. Or rarely the 12/5.6. Maybe also the 180/3.4, though it is large and heavy (same size as my Canon 70-200/4L)... But the core set is what I use most, with it fairly split between 28 and 50 for most common usage, then 21 and finally 90.
The reluctance to sell for me is somewhat tied to the difficulty in acquiring good copies, or at good prices. I also find selling a big hassle. I prefer to sell to people I already know and have either bought or sold from before (we feed each other's GAS). Recently my local pro shop had an event attended by KEH. Though I took a bath on some items, I liquidated lesser used though relatively common CV and ZM lenses, along with some Canon EF glass I hadn't used much the past few years (including a 400/2.8 IS collecting dust). Selling to KEH was super convenient. They didn't harp about hairline scratches, cosmetic blemishes, etc.. If there was a problem with an item, they priced it accordingly and will (perhaps) fix it later if warranted. Of course I could have made more selling each individually to a dozen people here on FM, but that was the compromise I accepted.
Edited on Jul 27, 2016 at 08:43 PM · View previous versions
Jul 27, 2016 at 06:02 PM
p.1343 #5Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Just wonderful Ron. I really like how you captured these shapes and lines.
Jul 27, 2016 at 06:51 PM
p.1343 #6Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
I think for me I figured out my plan of what to axe when I took a photo course. The teacher instructed us to visit the Magnum Website for 30 days going through the portfolio of each photographer and write down what moves you. For me I noticed all of the pictures that moved me were taken with a 35mm lens. I decided to focus on that focal length and have been very happy ever since. I do not have to think which focal length to use, I have to get closer, and the focal length allows me to make pictures that I like. For me less is more and I am only shooting for myself so I have no responsibility to a client. I really think through limits our creativity soars.
Jul 27, 2016 at 06:54 PM
p.1343 #7Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
AbramG wrote:
Just today I was thinking about what I could be comfortable selling off as I have more than what I need to work with. I just recently bought a 21mm but I find I hardly have touched it. I seem to live between 28/35/50mm lenses and venture out to 90mm on occasion. I also just bought a 40mm because it's so tiny and fun to use but did I really need that?
When you feel like minimizing, how do you guys decide what gets the axe?
I recently went on a 5 week trip to Italy. And I thought it would be a great idea to just bring the SL+Zoom + 35 Summilux-TL (the crop sensor lens, works out to be a 50 on the SL) and Q. Keep in mind I had two jobs while there. Job wise the SL+Zoom worked. I don't like EVF cameras, I know this now, but it worked. Looking at my meta data focal length wise I used 24 and 90 the most, and 35 (full frame) and 50 the second most. Followed by a very few of in-between numbers. And of course the 35T lens skewed the results a bit, as did the 28 from the Q (days when I was lazy to bring the SL out). I noticed when shooting zooms I shoot the extreme ends the most. And I've come to the conclusion that when using a zoom I'm always either to wide or to tight. So In reality I could have gotten much the same images with a 35 as my widest lens, and a 75 as my most tele. But I would still want/need a 50 for framing the way my eye likes to frame.
Even before my fall out with Leica I was minimising my kit. For me, I can get away with a 50APO and M for air travel. IF I'm driving everywhere the SL+Zoom is also fine (travel and day trips/outings). If I'm doing a shoot be it personal or work, I can get away with an S+45+100. And if I'm doing a wedding, a pair of D750s and 35/85 + 24-70/50 (as backup lenses) would be all I need. Or M+35FLE and M+75APO (plus 50APO as backup).
If we're just talking about M, and not talking about work. Then I'd say one M and a 35FLE + 50APO has been the most I've ever needed. But the extras are nice. 21SEM or 21Lux and 75APO would be additions to the kit that I would make first (though would rarely use the 21). Followed by 50Lux and 28Lux or 28cron. But honestly, I could just get away with 50APO for the days and 35FLE for the nights. The Q, as much as I love it, would need a longer lens (50mm) for me to keep it. OR I would need one 28Q and one 70-ishQ (then if I was staying with Leica I would just need those two cameras for anything work and non work).
After my falling out with Leica, my kit will consist of the Nikon items mentioned above and S+45+100 and M246+50APO (even though I still think the 50APO is a bit wasted on the monochrom sensor). With the very strong possibility of me even selling off my S kit (including both S bodies) if the right offer comes along.
I use to be a hoarder owning at one point every M lens Leica produces, before I started selling things. I think the only lenses I've not owned are the Tri-lenses, 135 Telyt-APO, 50 Summarit, 35 Summarit, 18 Super-Elmar-ASPH (even though I borrowed it from a friend a few times). The remaining 19-ish M lenses I owned either for an extended period of time, or briefly. And 4 or 6 older not in production lenses need to be counted. Rarely used 24mm and 90mm on an M.
So to sum it all up, I'm a 35/85(75) kind of guy for work. And a 50 guy for play. Seldom usage of a 21 for wide needs. So when I started axing M lenses.. I set aside 35/50/75 (coincidentally the only lenses left to sell are my spare 50APO, 50Lux and 75APO - everything else aside from my keeper 50APO has been sold) All my M bodies (had 5) were sold aside from the M246. And my S lenses are selling (spare 45 and 120 left to sell and maybe both S bodies and 100). Plus the SL+Zoom which I don't think will ever sell for a reasonable price, considering what I paid for it. And the Q (which I will sell last as I still use it for walking around when to lazy to carry heavy things).
Just today I was thinking about what I could be comfortable selling off as I have more than what I need to work with. I just recently bought a 21mm but I find I hardly have touched it. I seem to live between 28/35/50mm lenses and venture out to 90mm on occasion. I also just bought a 40mm because it's so tiny and fun to use but did I really need that?
When you feel like minimizing, how do you guys decide what gets the axe?
I recently went on a 5 week trip to Italy. And I thought it would be a great idea to just bring the SL+Zoom + 35 Summilux-TL (the crop sensor lens, works out to be a 50 on the SL) and Q. Keep in mind I had two jobs while there. Job wise the SL+Zoom worked. I don't like EVF cameras, I know this now, but it worked. Looking at my meta data focal length wise I used 24 and 90 the most, and 35 (full frame) and 50 the second most. Followed by a very few of in-between numbers. And of course the 35T lens skewed the results a bit, as did the 28 from the Q (days when I was lazy to bring the SL out). I noticed when shooting zooms I shoot the extreme ends the most. And I've come to the conclusion that when using a zoom I'm always either to wide or to tight. So In reality I could have gotten much the same images with a 35 as my widest lens, and a 75 as my most tele. But I would still want/need a 50 for framing the way my eye likes to frame.
Even before my fall out with Leica I was minimising my kit. For me, I can get away with a 50APO and M for air travel. IF I'm driving everywhere the SL+Zoom is also fine (travel and day trips/outings). If I'm doing a shoot be it personal or work, I can get away with an S+45+100. And if I'm doing a wedding, a pair of D750s and 35/85 + 24-70/50 (as backup lenses) would be all I need. Or M+35FLE and M+75APO (plus 50APO as backup).
If we're just talking about M, and not talking about work. Then I'd say one M and a 35FLE + 50APO has been the most I've ever needed. But the extras are nice. 21SEM or 21Lux and 75APO would be additions to the kit that I would make first (though would rarely use the 21). Followed by 50Lux and 28Lux or 28cron. But honestly, I could just get away with 50APO for the days and 35FLE for the nights. The Q, as much as I love it, would need a longer lens (50mm) for me to keep it. OR I would need one 28Q and one 70-ishQ (then if I was staying with Leica I would just need those two cameras for anything work and non work).
After my falling out with Leica, my kit will consist of the Nikon items mentioned above and S+45+100 and M246+50APO (even though I still think the 50APO is a bit wasted on the monochrom sensor). With the very strong possibility of me even selling off my S kit (including both S bodies) if the right offer comes along.
I use to be a hoarder owning at one point every M lens Leica produces, before I started selling things. I think the only lenses I've not owned are the Tri-lenses, 135 Telyt-APO, 50 Summarit, 35 Summarit, 18 Super-Elmar-ASPH (even though I borrowed it from a friend a few times). The remaining 19-ish M lenses I owned either for an extended period of time, or briefly. And 4 or 6 older not in production lenses need to be counted. Rarely used 24mm and 90mm on an M.
So to sum it all up, I'm a 35/85(75) kind of guy for work. And a 50 guy for play. Seldom usage of a 21 for wide needs. So when I started axing M lenses.. I set aside 35/50/75 (coincidentally the only lenses left to sell are my spare 50APO, 50Lux and 75APO - everything else aside from my keeper 50APO has been sold) All my M bodies (had 5) were sold aside from the M246. And my S lenses are selling (spare 45 and 120 left to sell and maybe both S bodies and 100). Plus the SL+Zoom which I don't think will ever sell for a reasonable price, considering what I paid for it. And the Q (which I will sell last as I still use it for walking around when to lazy to carry heavy things).
Jul 27, 2016 at 08:44 PM
p.1343 #8Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Like most RF users, 35 and 50 are my most used focal lengths. My preference swings periodically between 35 and 50. Sometimes I get a 35 glued to the camera for weeks, then for no particular reason I switch to the 50. I also shoot with a 25 and 85, but those are special purpose lenses, I only shoot them when I need them. I could have used a 21 instead of the 25 but it's more difficult to shoot without an external VF.
Jul 27, 2016 at 08:55 PM
p.1343 #9Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Tobin28 wrote:
I think for me I figured out my plan of what to axe when I took a photo course. The teacher instructed us to visit the Magnum Website for 30 days going through the portfolio of each photographer and write down what moves you. For me I noticed all of the pictures that moved me were taken with a 35mm lens. I decided to focus on that focal length and have been very happy ever since. I do not have to think which focal length to use, I have to get closer, and the focal length allows me to make...Show more →
I love this suggestion! That's an interesting approach, and I do agree that limitations can boost one's creativity. I don't feel like I have the problem of bringing too many lenses at any given time, I just don't like to hoard things. I also am looking at it from a financial perspective, I have some travel expenses coming up and letting go of a less frequently used lens would be beneficial in that respect.
Lots of great things to think about, thank you all for chiming in! Ok now back to the pictures!
Jul 28, 2016 at 09:14 AM
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p.1343 #11Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
How to dig for buried treasure:
A shovel helps...
Making progress...
Found something?
Oh, just a stone...
Keep digging? It's tiring...
Sun is getting low, time for dinner yet?
Getting an overview - still no treasure...
End of the shift (turn the shovel the other way)...
Dinner bell?
Getting ready for bed...
M240 & 28 Lux except CV35/1.7M for first.
A shovel helps...
Making progress...
Found something?
Oh, just a stone...
Keep digging? It's tiring...
Sun is getting low, time for dinner yet?
Getting an overview - still no treasure...
End of the shift (turn the shovel the other way)...
Dinner bell?
Getting ready for bed...
M240 & 28 Lux except CV35/1.7M for first.
Jul 28, 2016 at 06:36 PM
p.1343 #12Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Ron, are you sure he wasn't trying to reach the center of the earth? 
Jul 28, 2016 at 11:42 PM
p.1343 #15Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
excellent pics everyone 
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90APO Boston
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90APO Boston
Jul 29, 2016 at 09:41 AM
p.1343 #16Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Ron, enjoyed the story telling set very much! Well done!
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Jet-lagged after a long haul flight. 28Lux
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Jet-lagged after a long haul flight. 28Lux
Jul 29, 2016 at 09:49 AM
p.1343 #17Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Thanks Joe! How well do your kids handle flying halfway around the world?
edwardkaraa wrote:
Ron, are you sure he wasn't trying to reach the center of the earth?
Haha, I asked about China, but he hadn't heard of that one... His mom asked too. Nope. He was after treasure.
Some other random shots from that day, to give an idea of 28 Lux rendering, or lack thereof.
The first was probably between f/8-11, the rest probably wide open.
edwardkaraa wrote:
Ron, are you sure he wasn't trying to reach the center of the earth?
Haha, I asked about China, but he hadn't heard of that one... His mom asked too. Nope. He was after treasure.
Some other random shots from that day, to give an idea of 28 Lux rendering, or lack thereof.
The first was probably between f/8-11, the rest probably wide open.
Jul 29, 2016 at 02:06 PM
p.1343 #18Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
A couple of my daughter and a friend 'adoring' what looked like the world's tiniest dog just about to death!
Ektar/75 Lux
Ektar/75 Lux
Jul 29, 2016 at 06:09 PM
p.1343 #19Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
M262 + ZM 35/2.8 by edward karaa, on FlickrJul 31, 2016 at 05:09 AM
p.1343 #20Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
A lot of diversity and great photos recently! I've been shooting some but editing and processing is slow during vacation times . Anyway here is one from a town at the southmost end of Sweden, Ystad. MM-246 and 35 Summilux.
. Anyway here is one from a town at the southmost end of Sweden, Ystad. MM-246 and 35 Summilux.Jul 31, 2016 at 07:28 AM