Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
p.1089 #1Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Edward - I'm really liking your ZM25 shots lately. Including a bit more of the environment really adds context and meaning to many images I find.
Feb 04, 2015 at 11:59 AM
p.1089 #2Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Gary Clennan wrote:
Edward - I'm really liking your ZM25 shots lately. Including a bit more of the environment really adds context and meaning to many images I find.
Thank you very much Gary.
Effectively, shooting with the 25 gave me more interaction with the subjects. It is more difficult to use though because adding more of the environment needs more attention to detail in the image periphery, and I find myself cropping some stuff that I overlooked while shooting.
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Edward - I'm really liking your ZM25 shots lately. Including a bit more of the environment really adds context and meaning to many images I find.
Thank you very much Gary.
Effectively, shooting with the 25 gave me more interaction with the subjects. It is more difficult to use though because adding more of the environment needs more attention to detail in the image periphery, and I find myself cropping some stuff that I overlooked while shooting.
Edited on Feb 04, 2015 at 12:10 PM · View previous versions
Feb 04, 2015 at 12:05 PM
p.1089 #3Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Edward after seeing your work lately which is just killer I am seriously think of the 25 or maybe the 21 at some point in the future when I make to move completely to Leica M.
Feb 04, 2015 at 12:07 PM
p.1089 #4Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
airfrogusmc wrote:
Edward after seeing your work lately which is just killer I am seriously think of the 25 or maybe the 21 at some point in the future when I make to move completely to Leica M.
Much appreciated Allen. I'm sure you would be happy with both lenses. The advantage of the 25 is that I use it without an external VF (I have changed the mount to bring up the 28mm frame lines). I mentally add the additional coverage but I would imagine the 21 would be too wide to use it this way (though Ron used his very successfully with this method). I personally don't like using the EVF because it kills the connection with the subject and speed of use in street shooting. It is probably great for landscapes but that's not what I have been doing recently. I also have an external VF (21/25 Voigtlander) but I feel it's not needed with the way I shoot.
Edward after seeing your work lately which is just killer I am seriously think of the 25 or maybe the 21 at some point in the future when I make to move completely to Leica M.
Much appreciated Allen. I'm sure you would be happy with both lenses. The advantage of the 25 is that I use it without an external VF (I have changed the mount to bring up the 28mm frame lines). I mentally add the additional coverage but I would imagine the 21 would be too wide to use it this way (though Ron used his very successfully with this method). I personally don't like using the EVF because it kills the connection with the subject and speed of use in street shooting. It is probably great for landscapes but that's not what I have been doing recently. I also have an external VF (21/25 Voigtlander) but I feel it's not needed with the way I shoot.
Feb 04, 2015 at 12:18 PM
p.1089 #5Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Great images guys.
Adam, I lose my traveler 1544 tripod at Zion. Since then, I bought 3542 and 0542 explore series to take advantage of US rebate. 0542 for travel, and 3542 for real photography
I also compare 3542 with 2542 and decide keep 3542 as the weight difference is minimal but stability and smoothness of thick leg feel worth the extra weight. explore 0542 feel have better build than 1544T I had, and thinner but more rigid build with same load rating. (the carbon used also rate higher than found from Traveler )I was thinking systematic series but base on my limited field experience, center leg helps a lot for level and perspective for quick set up.
I use Arca P0 ball, it is functional great and I like the fact it can also be like pano head. But I do feel its build quality is not as good as RRS RH40 I tried.
RRS leg was a consideration but given price difference with Gitzo rebate I don't see justification. ($600 vs $1200 for ser3) And I do need strong tripod for long exposure or sea side. For S, I think ser2 or ser3 is a minimal/good starting point.
at least some pics
28cron
50lux
Adam, I lose my traveler 1544 tripod at Zion. Since then, I bought 3542 and 0542 explore series to take advantage of US rebate. 0542 for travel, and 3542 for real photography
I also compare 3542 with 2542 and decide keep 3542 as the weight difference is minimal but stability and smoothness of thick leg feel worth the extra weight. explore 0542 feel have better build than 1544T I had, and thinner but more rigid build with same load rating. (the carbon used also rate higher than found from Traveler )I was thinking systematic series but base on my limited field experience, center leg helps a lot for level and perspective for quick set up. I use Arca P0 ball, it is functional great and I like the fact it can also be like pano head. But I do feel its build quality is not as good as RRS RH40 I tried.
RRS leg was a consideration but given price difference with Gitzo rebate I don't see justification. ($600 vs $1200 for ser3) And I do need strong tripod for long exposure or sea side. For S, I think ser2 or ser3 is a minimal/good starting point.
at least some pics
28cron
50lux
Feb 04, 2015 at 12:39 PM
p.1089 #6Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
edwardkaraa wrote:
Much appreciated Allen. I'm sure you would be happy with both lenses. The advantage of the 25 is that I use it without an external VF (I have changed the mount to bring up the 28mm frame lines). I mentally add the additional coverage but I would imagine the 21 would be too wide to use it this way (though Ron used his very successfully with this method). I personally don't like using the EVF because it kills the connection with the subject and speed of use in street shooting. It is probably great for landscapes but that's not what...Show more →
I don't like EVF. I have only been shooting with my 35 for over 2 years and over 30K and I know that the crop lines in VF are not exactly what i get and I can from the constant use pretty much judge how the image will actually crop. I don't know if that would ever happen with something as wide as a 21. HMMMM Maybe 25 is the answer.
Anyway I have really been enjoying your images as usual... Keep up the good work and your inspiration motivating me to spend more money
airfrogusmc wrote
Edward after seeing your work lately which is just killer I am seriously think of the 25 or maybe the 21 at some point in the future when I make to move completely to Leica M.I don't like EVF. I have only been shooting with my 35 for over 2 years and over 30K and I know that the crop lines in VF are not exactly what i get and I can from the constant use pretty much judge how the image will actually crop. I don't know if that would ever happen with something as wide as a 21. HMMMM Maybe 25 is the answer.
Anyway I have really been enjoying your images as usual... Keep up the good work and your inspiration motivating me to spend more money
Feb 04, 2015 at 12:45 PM
p.1089 #7Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
L1021403-788.jpg by W.Utsch, on Flickr
Feb 04, 2015 at 12:49 PM
p.1089 #8Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Zhangyue, the 1st shot is absolutely stunning!
Allen, I hope it will be money well spent
Werner, powerful image. Love the geometry and composition.
A few more photos:
M240 ZM 25/2.8 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M240 ZM 25/2.8 by edward karaa, on Flickr
M240 ZM 25/2.8 by edward karaa, on Flickr
Allen, I hope it will be money well spent
Werner, powerful image. Love the geometry and composition.
A few more photos:
M240 ZM 25/2.8 by edward karaa, on FlickrM240 ZM 25/2.8 by edward karaa, on FlickrM240 ZM 25/2.8 by edward karaa, on FlickrFeb 04, 2015 at 12:52 PM
p.1089 #9Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Another really solid series Edward...
Feb 04, 2015 at 01:15 PM
p.1089 #10Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
adamdewilde wrote:
Great shots guys.. Here's two from the [email protected]
http://www.bespokebrides.com/FM/s_emily.jpg
(apologies that the eyes don't look sharp, I can't seem to get my jpg files to look right on the web)
Been toying with the idea of upgrading the tripods (currently have an explorer from gitzo w/swivel centre column and a traveller from gitzo also. Both have Q3 ballheads). I was considering either the RRS TVC-23 + BH-40 or the TVC-33 + BH-55. Also toying with the idea of the TQC-14 + BH-30 if anyone knows what those are, and has an opinion, I'd love to hear it. Obviously for the S-system, the odd...Show more →
Hi Adam,
I am using a RRS TVC-24L as my 1st choice for my tripod. I purchased the tripod with the TA-2-LC Leveling Base:
http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/Shop/Carbon-Fiber-Tripods/TVC-24L-Versa-series-2-4-sections-leg-long.html
http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/Shop/Leveling-Bases/TA-2-LC-Series-2-Leveling-Base-with-Clamp.html
I use the Leveling Base above so that I can switch heads if I want between a Markins M20 (a newer version is available -http://www.markinsamerica.com/MA5/Q20.php?req=Q20NK)
or a Markins M10 (http://www.markinsamerica.com/MA5/Q10.php?req=Q10NK)
or a RRS Full Gimbal head (I need a special RRS plate to swap out the heads on the clamp).
A substitute for the leveling base above is the RRS TA-2-LB http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/Shop/Leveling-Bases/TA-2-LB-Series-2-Leveling-Base-with-Platform.html.
The later leveling base allows a tripod head to be threaded directly to the base without a QR clamp and plate.
If you don't want a leveling base just consider the tripod itself.
I like the RRS TVC-24L very much. It is the finest tripod I have ever used and is superior to all of the Gitzo Tripods I have or have had in the past. Part of what I like is having the extra section if need be for a bit higher set-up than you would have with the TVC-23. I believe that with the 40 pound capability that should meet your needs. If I want a lighter tripod then I will substitute one of my lighter Gitzo Tripods.
Though I have never used the RRS heads, I like the Markins heads due to their holding power and their much lower weights than the RRS heads. I have been using the Kirk QR clamp on the Markins heads which I like very much as well:
http://www.kirkphoto.com/2.5in_Quick_Release_Clamp.html
Rich
Great shots guys.. Here's two from the [email protected]
http://www.bespokebrides.com/FM/s_emily.jpg
(apologies that the eyes don't look sharp, I can't seem to get my jpg files to look right on the web)
Been toying with the idea of upgrading the tripods (currently have an explorer from gitzo w/swivel centre column and a traveller from gitzo also. Both have Q3 ballheads). I was considering either the RRS TVC-23 + BH-40 or the TVC-33 + BH-55. Also toying with the idea of the TQC-14 + BH-30 if anyone knows what those are, and has an opinion, I'd love to hear it. Obviously for the S-system, the odd...Show more →
Hi Adam,
I am using a RRS TVC-24L as my 1st choice for my tripod. I purchased the tripod with the TA-2-LC Leveling Base:
http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/Shop/Carbon-Fiber-Tripods/TVC-24L-Versa-series-2-4-sections-leg-long.html
http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/Shop/Leveling-Bases/TA-2-LC-Series-2-Leveling-Base-with-Clamp.html
I use the Leveling Base above so that I can switch heads if I want between a Markins M20 (a newer version is available -http://www.markinsamerica.com/MA5/Q20.php?req=Q20NK)
or a Markins M10 (http://www.markinsamerica.com/MA5/Q10.php?req=Q10NK)
or a RRS Full Gimbal head (I need a special RRS plate to swap out the heads on the clamp).
A substitute for the leveling base above is the RRS TA-2-LB http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/Shop/Leveling-Bases/TA-2-LB-Series-2-Leveling-Base-with-Platform.html.
The later leveling base allows a tripod head to be threaded directly to the base without a QR clamp and plate.
If you don't want a leveling base just consider the tripod itself.
I like the RRS TVC-24L very much. It is the finest tripod I have ever used and is superior to all of the Gitzo Tripods I have or have had in the past. Part of what I like is having the extra section if need be for a bit higher set-up than you would have with the TVC-23. I believe that with the 40 pound capability that should meet your needs. If I want a lighter tripod then I will substitute one of my lighter Gitzo Tripods.
Though I have never used the RRS heads, I like the Markins heads due to their holding power and their much lower weights than the RRS heads. I have been using the Kirk QR clamp on the Markins heads which I like very much as well:
http://www.kirkphoto.com/2.5in_Quick_Release_Clamp.html
Rich
Feb 04, 2015 at 01:17 PM
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p.1089 #11Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Gary Clennan wrote:
Edward - I'm really liking your ZM25 shots lately. Including a bit more of the environment really adds context and meaning to many images I find.
Edward - I agree with Gary above.. It is hard to avoid over messy environments but you're doing a great job at as you say paying attention!
Edward - I'm really liking your ZM25 shots lately. Including a bit more of the environment really adds context and meaning to many images I find.
Edward - I agree with Gary above.. It is hard to avoid over messy environments but you're doing a great job at as you say paying attention!
Feb 04, 2015 at 01:49 PM
p.1089 #12Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Thanks Rich, and everyone else who chimed in about tripods.
I'll look all of them up, and figure out what'll suit me best. I really don't mind Gitzo, but my current two are Gitzo and my heads are Markins. So I'm thinking RRS just for a change. Glad that either way, I can't go wrong
I'll look all of them up, and figure out what'll suit me best. I really don't mind Gitzo, but my current two are Gitzo and my heads are Markins. So I'm thinking RRS just for a change. Glad that either way, I can't go wrong
Feb 04, 2015 at 01:56 PM
p.1089 #13Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Just saw this on the Leica Rumors site regarding the corrosion issue. It appears they are offering an upgrade option if found to be corroded.
Upgrade Option
Upgrade Option
Feb 04, 2015 at 03:42 PM
p.1089 #14Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Well my M-E is there now.... Still waiting for a determination. I was told I would have word on Thursday. Could the weather be preventing a response?? I'm getting annoyed.
Feb 04, 2015 at 03:56 PM
p.1089 #15Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Katie hopefully the response is a favourable for you. 
Feb 04, 2015 at 04:00 PM
p.1089 #16Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
airfrogusmc wrote:
Another really solid series Edward...
Yes, as always. Zeiss should put Edward on the payroll. The guy is a walking advertisement for their lenses!
Another really solid series Edward...
Yes, as always. Zeiss should put Edward on the payroll. The guy is a walking advertisement for their lenses!
Feb 04, 2015 at 04:01 PM
p.1089 #17Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
KatieInTexas wrote:
Well my M-E is there now.... Still waiting for a determination. I was told I would have word on Thursday. Could the weather be preventing a response?? I'm getting annoyed.
I'd complain if I were you. I'm also having problems with my S-system and the customer service is just really unprofessional.
One thing I hate almost as much as a buggy camera, is one that doesn't have top notch support when something does go wrong. Leica really needs to reevaluate their use of the word "professional" when talking about themselves.
Well my M-E is there now.... Still waiting for a determination. I was told I would have word on Thursday. Could the weather be preventing a response?? I'm getting annoyed.
I'd complain if I were you. I'm also having problems with my S-system and the customer service is just really unprofessional.
One thing I hate almost as much as a buggy camera, is one that doesn't have top notch support when something does go wrong. Leica really needs to reevaluate their use of the word "professional" when talking about themselves.
Feb 04, 2015 at 06:36 PM
p.1089 #18Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
This pile of automobile transmission parts are kept on the pavement near the workshop for rebuilding transmissions that I posted yesterday. The area had several dealers for junked automobile engines and transmission parts. When it rains the piles of parts are covered with a tarpaulin.
Any thoughts on the DR Summicron lens that I have been using for this lens, which I like a lot?
M-Monochrom | DR Summicron-50 | ISO 320 | f/6.3 | 1/125
Bangkok
Any thoughts on the DR Summicron lens that I have been using for this lens, which I like a lot?
M-Monochrom | DR Summicron-50 | ISO 320 | f/6.3 | 1/125
Bangkok
Feb 04, 2015 at 07:02 PM
p.1089 #19Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Mitch - the tonality of your recent images is gorgeous. I've had very brief experience with the 50 Cron Rigid, and my impression of it was that while not anything special technically at wider apertures, it had a very pleasing, moderate tonality with rich colors and was sharp enough without being harsh. On the MM I would expect its moderate contrast results in file with rich mid tones that offer a lot of post processing leeway. It's a lens I'm keeping on my informal 'to get' list. I suppose waiting for one at a bargain price I can't resist.
Katie, definitely contact them if it has been some time. Unfortunately this is probably the worst aspect of Leica ownership. Yes, the gear can be quirky, but workarounds are possible. It's when service is required that Leica ownership can be the most frustrating, particularly due to the long turnaround times. It's possible they're also inundated with M9/M-E sensor corrosion claims and repairs. But they definitely need to work on turnaround times. Having visited them in person a couple times this year, the CSR I had my face to face with was at pains to apologetically explain they are aware of the problem...
Robert - wow, good to see some numbers, finally! I'd go with the M-P upgrade. If I end up in Asia later this year, I'll be sure to bring my M9 and leave it somewhere really humid.
Very nice Edward. I think the 25 is working really well for you.
Michael - love the second one! Thanks for the tripod info. I've been eyeing the P0 too... seems like a nice, compact head. Should have bought it before the Swiss Franc and USD skyrocketed!
Adam - great expression, tonality, colour... Don't worry about the eyes. We know the images are sharp. Looks fine to me here... It's only the web.
Werner - as Edward said, great use of the geometric shapes!
Allen - I think it's worth trying a 21 or 24/25 for street. I guess it will depend on situations, but I particularly like 21 in very active scenarios when in the middle of the action. While there is greater risk of clutter and messy backgrounds, etc., sometimes you can get really interesting ranges of interaction within the scene. Only thing is then you're carrying more than one lens, so it adds a variable of which to use and there will likely be times when you're 'stuck' with the wrong one. Between 21 and 24, I'd probably go 21 because you can always crop. Not sure how much you like the idea of cropping. As Edward mentioned, I don't even bother with an add-on OVF anymore with 21mm. I guess you're super familiar with 35mm and probably can shoot without looking, if you have to. It's the same thing.
The tripod suggestions are interesting and this is something I've been putting off for over 20 years now. I don't use a tripod much, or often bring it along, perhaps because it's an old, heavy Manfrotto 055... I was thinking of getting one of the RRS, or a Gitzo, for use with the DSLR and an assortment of lenses. But with the current CAD/USD exchange, it's much less appealing, and frankly, don't feel like spending the money. A couple years ago I bought a Sirui carbon monopod that collapses to under 20", yet is long enough for me to use with the Canon 1 series and 400/2.8 or 200-400 while standing (I'm a bit over 6'). It's steady enough and has held up OK. Anyone have any thoughts about going more 'budget' with a brand like Sirui or Induro? Benro? Aluminum vs. carbon, other than the weight savings (and cold to the touch feel in winter)? For the Leica kit I'd want something small and light, that is easy to carry around, and noticed at least Sirui has a selection of tripods that collapse pretty small, under ~20". For this I wouldn't necessarily expect or want 6' extension; the compact size would be of greater value. I can always look down into the tilted EVF in respect to viewing/composing comfort. I'd get an additional, bigger tripod for DSLR use..
More from the YYZ water tank art installation...
M240 & 90AA
Katie, definitely contact them if it has been some time. Unfortunately this is probably the worst aspect of Leica ownership. Yes, the gear can be quirky, but workarounds are possible. It's when service is required that Leica ownership can be the most frustrating, particularly due to the long turnaround times. It's possible they're also inundated with M9/M-E sensor corrosion claims and repairs. But they definitely need to work on turnaround times. Having visited them in person a couple times this year, the CSR I had my face to face with was at pains to apologetically explain they are aware of the problem...
Robert - wow, good to see some numbers, finally! I'd go with the M-P upgrade. If I end up in Asia later this year, I'll be sure to bring my M9 and leave it somewhere really humid.
Very nice Edward. I think the 25 is working really well for you.
Michael - love the second one! Thanks for the tripod info. I've been eyeing the P0 too... seems like a nice, compact head. Should have bought it before the Swiss Franc and USD skyrocketed!
Adam - great expression, tonality, colour... Don't worry about the eyes. We know the images are sharp. Looks fine to me here... It's only the web.
Werner - as Edward said, great use of the geometric shapes!
Allen - I think it's worth trying a 21 or 24/25 for street. I guess it will depend on situations, but I particularly like 21 in very active scenarios when in the middle of the action. While there is greater risk of clutter and messy backgrounds, etc., sometimes you can get really interesting ranges of interaction within the scene. Only thing is then you're carrying more than one lens, so it adds a variable of which to use and there will likely be times when you're 'stuck' with the wrong one. Between 21 and 24, I'd probably go 21 because you can always crop.
Not sure how much you like the idea of cropping. As Edward mentioned, I don't even bother with an add-on OVF anymore with 21mm. I guess you're super familiar with 35mm and probably can shoot without looking, if you have to. It's the same thing.The tripod suggestions are interesting and this is something I've been putting off for over 20 years now. I don't use a tripod much, or often bring it along, perhaps because it's an old, heavy Manfrotto 055... I was thinking of getting one of the RRS, or a Gitzo, for use with the DSLR and an assortment of lenses. But with the current CAD/USD exchange, it's much less appealing, and frankly, don't feel like spending the money. A couple years ago I bought a Sirui carbon monopod that collapses to under 20", yet is long enough for me to use with the Canon 1 series and 400/2.8 or 200-400 while standing (I'm a bit over 6'). It's steady enough and has held up OK. Anyone have any thoughts about going more 'budget' with a brand like Sirui or Induro? Benro? Aluminum vs. carbon, other than the weight savings (and cold to the touch feel in winter)? For the Leica kit I'd want something small and light, that is easy to carry around, and noticed at least Sirui has a selection of tripods that collapse pretty small, under ~20". For this I wouldn't necessarily expect or want 6' extension; the compact size would be of greater value. I can always look down into the tilted EVF in respect to viewing/composing comfort. I'd get an additional, bigger tripod for DSLR use..
More from the YYZ water tank art installation...
M240 & 90AA
Feb 04, 2015 at 07:39 PM
p.1089 #20Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
I think for the street I will still stick with the MM and the 35. Tends to fit with the way I naturally see.
I would be picking up a couple of color bodies and a 21 or 25 and a 75 or 90.
I would be picking up a couple of color bodies and a 21 or 25 and a 75 or 90.
Feb 04, 2015 at 09:07 PM