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p.1 #1 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Never mind!!!!


Apr 28, 2004 at 03:41 PM
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p.1 #2 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Nice kitchen, when we all coming over for dinner?

I gotta look at these with a better monitor than this thing I use at work but the all look pretty impressive to me!



Apr 28, 2004 at 04:11 PM
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p.1 #3 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Hey, for all that work you did on the shots, I'll help make dinner..


Apr 28, 2004 at 04:13 PM
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p.1 #4 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Guy, I'm looking at the last two ... noticed you set the machines in manual but why did you do the mk2 at f/11 and the 1Ds at f/13


Apr 28, 2004 at 04:13 PM
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p.1 #5 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Sheesh Guy. Canon 200 F/1.8L? You are such a tease.


Apr 28, 2004 at 04:16 PM
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p.1 #6 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Thanks Guy! Nice kitchen u have there with the 200 f1.8L
Could u pls post 100% crop for each pic, if it's not too much trouble



Apr 28, 2004 at 04:25 PM
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p.1 #7 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Guy Mancuso wrote:
I have to reprocess not a big deal I will do 100,400,800, and the 1250 1ds and the 1600 MKII. But what section would you like . The noise really show up in the door way. Let me know. I am processing now


A small section on the color chart, and a small section on the door way. Hope this is not too much work for u



Apr 28, 2004 at 04:39 PM
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p.1 #8 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Guy,
I'm glad you finally got the Mk2.
Could you post it on 50 ASA vs 100 ASA 1 DS?
thx

I would have some server space, depends on how big

Edited by montespluga on Apr 28, 2004 at 10:43 PM GMT



Apr 28, 2004 at 05:38 PM
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p.1 #9 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Hi Guy -- any chance of sending me ANY RAW MK II file -- I've downloaded Adobe CS 2.2 upgrade and want to test to see if it works with the MK II RAW.

I've got oodles of bandwidth on a server -- email me off post and I can send you a password to upload it if the file is too big for your email to handle (some email systems limit an attached file to around 4MB or so, in which case I suspect the 8MB file of the 1D MK II probably would be rejected.

I already have the 1Ds -- I know adobe 2.2 works with it but I'd like to try the new .CR2 format of the MK II.

Otherwise interesting test -- thanks.



Apr 28, 2004 at 05:43 PM
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p.1 #10 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Just info Kyle -- the new MK II files DO work on 2.2 -- I downloaded a raw file somewhere and tried it -- and confirm it does work.
Tom



Apr 28, 2004 at 05:50 PM
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p.1 #11 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


400 and 800 would be great as this is where the 1Ds begins to get a bit noisy.

Thanks -- I've PM'ed you -- can send userid and pw for FTP upload.

Cheers
-K



Apr 28, 2004 at 05:55 PM
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p.1 #12 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Guy,
Have you looked at your RGB histogram. If any of the colors are off, have you tried correcting using the White Balance correction (page 52 in the manual) by adjusting the Blue/Amber and Magenta/Green? It is a good way to correct for color.



Apr 28, 2004 at 06:05 PM
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p.1 #13 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


This is going to be an action and low-light shooters' dream machine. Very impressive. And I disagree with the 1Ds having better color, the mk2 looks noticably better to me. The orange looks like an orange. It's going to run circles around the 1Ds on skin tones! Imagine if Canon fit the same capture device in a 16MP FF version in an updated 1Ds and managed to squeeze 4 fps out of it...



Apr 28, 2004 at 06:09 PM
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p.1 #14 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Heh. That's true. I just find that sometimes I'll be shooting at a relatives home and relatives want copies immediately for their own and so I am learning how to take really good jpg photos. I really like this RGB histogram alot.


Apr 28, 2004 at 06:15 PM
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p.1 #15 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


16MP would make sense. The logic of then charging twice as much for the 1D Mark II ($9000) would also be quite legit; 8MP 1 series at $4500 and 16MP 1 series at $9000.

I get the feeling that the 1Ds Mark II is going to be my real dream camera, but as it stands, the 1D Mark II looks like it will have to tide me over for the next few years.

I look forward to seeing more stuff from the lucky owners of these machines. I am looking to pick one up in August or September...

Arka C.



Apr 28, 2004 at 06:17 PM
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p.1 #16 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Oh, so that's a 200/1.8 holding the chart up.... I thought it was a blender

Great series Guy thanks for taking the time to post these.



Apr 28, 2004 at 06:27 PM
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p.1 #17 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


The colors are richer and the pictures are sharper with the 1ds


Apr 28, 2004 at 06:32 PM
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p.1 #18 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


iron wrote:
The colors are richer and the pictures are sharper with the 1ds

Yes, and these are good qualities in output. But we're looking at input here. You can always saturate or increase contrast (either local or global) but taking these out is more difficult. The mk2 has a smaller pixel, so by its nature will get lower local contrast out of lenses. That's a truly trivial matter though as long as the noise levels are low.



Apr 28, 2004 at 06:52 PM
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p.1 #19 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


Iron lets remember there is no sharpening . The 1ds is sharper out of camera but they both need sharpening in post or in camera jpegs. the 1dMKII just needs a little more applied that's it. The 1ds has more detail and it should but sharper is relative to what you do with the file


Makes sense. Thank you for the logical explanation.

This means the only "buyer's remorse" will be the wait for my camera to be available.



Apr 28, 2004 at 06:58 PM
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p.1 #20 · Re: Guy's 1ds VS 1dMKII test


1D II is lower noise at 800 than the 1Ds is at 400 - almost matches 200.

Just an observation, thinking aloud.

BTW, nice kitchen. When's the big FM dinner? I'll do dishes.



Apr 28, 2004 at 07:30 PM
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