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Archive 2010 · Is a Degree Worth the Cost?

  
 
James10013
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p.2 #1 · Is a Degree Worth the Cost?


Peter Figen wrote:
...but online resources, as good as they are will never replace the feedback and criticism you get from the live interaction of a classroom and the friendly competition of twenty students trying to kick each other's ass every week.



I could not agree more.



Jun 25, 2010 at 01:50 PM
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p.2 #2 · Is a Degree Worth the Cost?


Is a degree worth the cost? Yes and no. When we hire a photographer a degree means nothing if your work doesn't stand out. In essence, your history of work is your degree, and if you have testimonials from influential or notable clients that give me assurance that it's low-risk to hire you - then you'll get serious consideration.

Many schools are an excellent place for you to prepare for great things to come.



Jun 29, 2010 at 11:05 AM
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Deezie wrote:
Is a degree worth the cost? Yes and no. When we hire a photographer a degree means nothing if your work doesn't stand out. In essence, your history of work is your degree, and if you have testimonials from influential or notable clients that give me assurance that it's low-risk to hire you - then you'll get serious consideration.

Many schools are an excellent place for you to prepare for great things to come.


Agreed. Going to school for photography, your goal should be to learn, not to use your education to get a job. There are a plethora of so-called photographers that don't know what they are doing. In some ways, school can be used as an inside track, but the most you'll get out is what you put in and the use of equipment and facilities that you otherwise wouldn't have access to easily.



Jul 02, 2010 at 10:35 AM
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p.2 #4 · Is a Degree Worth the Cost?


Online degree for photography is pretty useless, especially at $2,300 a course. I would not pay that much and not have a physical teacher teach me. There are MANY free online info that you can teach yourself.

I am not saying that going to school for photography is bad. I am currently going to school for photography, but NOT for the degree. Yes I will get a degree at the end, but the reason why I am going to school is to NETWORK. I network with the teachers and students on campus. When you network with others, you put yourself out there and you can gain a lot more in learning and future clients.

I am not going to a fancy art school either, I am going to a local community college. Also not all college are the same. Do a little research on the teachers and the class they offer before you take it.



Jul 05, 2010 at 02:34 AM
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p.2 #5 · Is a Degree Worth the Cost?


My friend works for the largest student loan company, and photography school loans are number one on defaults, if that tells you anything.


Jul 07, 2010 at 10:47 PM
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I have just graduated from a UK university with a degree in Digital Photography. I can safely say it'll make no difference to my professional life, what is making a difference is all the classes I skipped to go off on shoots and make new clients. Degree suffered a little, but doing so has set me up much better for life.


Jul 14, 2010 at 02:32 PM
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I'm not sure a BFA is worth the cost. The MFA is another story. I know a couple of people who have graduate degrees and they both are doing very well. One teaches at a university, consults for a museum, ans still has time to pursue his fine art photography. The second is a commercial photographer with a very nice studio and client base. They both earn well above average (for the industry) incomes.

The teaching career path is not for everyone, but the salary, benefits, academic discounts (very significant) are very nice. He has a constant stream of willing assistants (students) who work for him when needed.

All that said. The degree will do NOTHING for you. It is all about what you can do with a degree.



Jul 18, 2010 at 07:33 PM
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Skip the degree and go assist. You'll learn while making money instead of loosing it.


Jul 18, 2010 at 11:06 PM
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p.2 #9 · Is a Degree Worth the Cost?


My experience has led me to form three camps of photographers: 1. the fine art university, 2. a commercial photography school, and 3. the self-taught.


o Personally, I went to a four year fine arts university with a major in photography. The school was close and affordable, which was a major factor in where I chose to attend. Over my four years there I was given plenty of studio time, learned how to take criticisms and critiques without being angered by those who shared their thoughts, and was able to network with many students and instructors (who were also practicing artists all in their own right). I also got a chance to work in other mediums, and take lots of history courses that helped me show where photography has been into where it is going.

The one (arguably) negative aspect about a more "fine arts" education, is the (at least where I was attending at the time) complete lack of any classes that cover business or business management. It also did not cover much in the way of commercial photography or commercial lighting at all. We were taught our basic lighting setups, and the history of these lighting techniques, but anything more than that (multiple setup lighting, etc) wasn't discussed. Also, this type of schooling isn't geared toward commercial jobs; it is more about developing relationships with fine art galleries and finding good matches that will sell your works. I'd say there about 1% of fine artists that can make a living off of gallery works, so there are a lot of fine art students graduating and then not having the ability to find creative-related jobs. A fine art university teaches you ". . . how to live your life enriched with the arts. . .", and doesn't teach you how to get a job to support yourself (more or less told to me by the Dean of Academics.) I've had many graduates of my alma matter contact me after graduating asking how I've gotten to the point where I am at, simply because the very next day after graduating, they haven't the slightest idea of what to do next.

Because of the lack of business instruction and education, I find trying to run my small business a daunting task - marketing is my big fault, and how to market myself has kept me moving slower than others in my area who are more educated with it.

o Commercial Photography schools, like Hallmark, are great intensive schools that teach you how to shoot more commercially, and give you the current tools to do so. They also provide superb (so I've heard) job assistance so that when completing the schooling, you'll be able to land with your feet on the ground running to help pay off the 40,000$ you just spent for the last 10 months of classes This type of avenue gives you access to working commercial photographers, top of the line gear, and keeps you current with advances in technology. The downside of course, is the cost, and that not everyone can find a gig right out of school.

o Then you have the "school-of-hard-knocks" way of learning - no proper schooling, just learning online, reading books, experimenting and if possible, finding a local photographer to work for as an assistant. Being an assistant is great if you can secure that valuable position. Now that digital photography is the norm, there are more and more photographers that are in this group. Seeing instant results helps you learn faster and easier.

I think all three of these venues are good, and it really depends on a few factors; 1. what type of photography you think you will be interested in (fine art, portraiture, commercial, etc), and what your best way of learning is (reading? hands-on? online? assisting? etc), and that is really something only you know.

I see lots of people that poo-poo Universities, and just as many university schooled that poo-poo learning on your own; both of these are valuable ways of educating yourself and helping foster your talents.

But make sure you take some level of business and marketing courses. That old adage of "20% shooting and 80% business management" rings true.

Cheers,
Sid



Jul 26, 2010 at 07:59 AM
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