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p.2 #1Missing my 50/1.2L...
i really hope that the rumored 50mm 1.4 replacement materializes this time. and is good.
Jun 20, 2010 at 02:18 PM
p.2 #2Missing my 50/1.2L...
rhorta wrote:
...is something I'd never imagine I'd write, but here it is.
A couple of weeks ago I decided to give up trying with my current 50/1.2 and asked for a replacement. That request has a very high chance of being honored, but the show ain't over until the fat lady sings.
During the last 6-7 months I've been using that 50/1.2L almost exclusively, with a fair amount of frustration, but in the mean time also getting a feel for its quirks etc, so also learning to control it.
Now I miss the lens.
I miss the focal length (which I always thought of as...Show more →
Aren't you one who didn't suggested this lens to anyone arguing with me?
Actually I sold mine too since ...
...is something I'd never imagine I'd write, but here it is.
A couple of weeks ago I decided to give up trying with my current 50/1.2 and asked for a replacement. That request has a very high chance of being honored, but the show ain't over until the fat lady sings.
During the last 6-7 months I've been using that 50/1.2L almost exclusively, with a fair amount of frustration, but in the mean time also getting a feel for its quirks etc, so also learning to control it.
Now I miss the lens.
I miss the focal length (which I always thought of as...Show more →
Aren't you one who didn't suggested this lens to anyone arguing with me?
Actually I sold mine too since ... Jun 20, 2010 at 04:02 PM
p.2 #3Missing my 50/1.2L...
Breitling65 wrote:
Aren't you one who didn't suggested this lens to anyone arguing with me? Actually I sold mine too since ...
Don't know, doesn't ring a bell.
OTOH, I didn't sell mine, I am in the process of getting a replacement from Canon (knock on wood and chanting some spells and walking around three times etc etc etc).
I like the lens enough to persist.
Ruy
Aren't you one who didn't suggested this lens to anyone arguing with me?
Actually I sold mine too since ... Don't know, doesn't ring a bell.
OTOH, I didn't sell mine, I am in the process of getting a replacement from Canon (knock on wood and chanting some spells and walking around three times etc etc etc).
I like the lens enough to persist.
Ruy
Jun 21, 2010 at 01:44 AM
p.2 #4Missing my 50/1.2L...
So, I've been using the 50 1.2 heavily recently (4 engagement sessions, 3 weddings, 1 fashion shoot) and the thing seems to focus just fine at all distances, similarly to my Sigma but faster to focus. Very enjoyable, I have a 2009 date code I believe. I should have specified, that image posted above was @ 1.2 but it was also studio lit so the effect is a bit more dramatic.
Long story short - I've maybe had great luck, but both my Sigma and Canon 50mm's have been great.
Long story short - I've maybe had great luck, but both my Sigma and Canon 50mm's have been great.
Jun 21, 2010 at 09:50 AM
p.2 #5Missing my 50/1.2L...
rhorta wrote:
Actually I sold mine too since ...Don't know, doesn't ring a bell.
Ruy
Are you sure? Lets read these words than, ring something?
"..Based on *my* experience I wouldn't readily recommend this lens to anyone, even if I manage to get good images out of it. ..."
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/901584/0#8495787
Breitling65 wrote
Aren't you one who didn't suggested this lens to anyone arguing with me? Actually I sold mine too since ...Ruy
Are you sure?
Lets read these words than, ring something? "..Based on *my* experience I wouldn't readily recommend this lens to anyone, even if I manage to get good images out of it. ..."
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/901584/0#8495787
Jun 21, 2010 at 07:16 PM
p.2 #6Missing my 50/1.2L...
I I sold my 1.2 and miss it, but I am getting better consistency with my new sigma, and have used it exclusively with four engagement shoots. It is so easy, reliable, and amazingly good looking!!!
Jun 21, 2010 at 07:22 PM
p.2 #7Missing my 50/1.2L...
patrickphoto wrote:
I I sold my 1.2 and miss it, but I am getting better consistency with my new sigma, and have used it exclusively with four engagement shoots. It is so easy, reliable, and amazingly good looking!!!
Intriguing, then - why do you miss the L again? Is it the difficulty, unreliability or bad looks?
I I sold my 1.2 and miss it, but I am getting better consistency with my new sigma, and have used it exclusively with four engagement shoots. It is so easy, reliable, and amazingly good looking!!!
Intriguing, then - why do you miss the L again? Is it the difficulty, unreliability or bad looks?
Jun 21, 2010 at 07:30 PM
p.2 #8Missing my 50/1.2L...
I like the look Stan! I think it looks very 'classic'. It does piss me off at times though.
After you waxed lyrical about the 24L II I got that and it's way easier to use and focus is totally consistent but I prefer the 'look' of the 50L, when I get an in-focus shot.
I'm getting a lot better with it now so I know when it's the lens and not me now and the 24L has kinda taken it's place a lot of the time. I would never sell the 50L though.
After you waxed lyrical about the 24L II I got that and it's way easier to use and focus is totally consistent but I prefer the 'look' of the 50L, when I get an in-focus shot.
I'm getting a lot better with it now so I know when it's the lens and not me now and the 24L has kinda taken it's place a lot of the time. I would never sell the 50L though.
Jun 21, 2010 at 08:30 PM
p.2 #9Missing my 50/1.2L...
My above comment was aimed at patrickphoto, specifically aiming at his three comparisons to the Sigma - and mainly intended as the (usual, unavoidable) stab.
Jun 21, 2010 at 11:40 PM
p.2 #10Missing my 50/1.2L...
I miss the feel of focus, af speed, and when focus is nachieved wide open, it was very sharp.
Jun 22, 2010 at 01:31 AM
p.2 #11Missing my 50/1.2L...
rhorta wrote:
What can I say the @*%@#&&@ grew on me
it grew on you...like a slime mold on a dead tree.
I kid, I kid.
On a more serious note, I do recall how intensely frustrated you were about the 50/1.2L. And no, I did not think you would ever say such a thing. But if anything, this thread says more about you and your willingness to accept challenges to work with and grow beyond the limitations of your tools, than it says about the lens itself.
I think that attitude is more indicative of a good photographer than any dollar amount of sales or number of gallery showings.
What can I say the @*%@#&&@ grew on me
it grew on you...like a slime mold on a dead tree.
I kid, I kid.
On a more serious note, I do recall how intensely frustrated you were about the 50/1.2L. And no, I did not think you would ever say such a thing. But if anything, this thread says more about you and your willingness to accept challenges to work with and grow beyond the limitations of your tools, than it says about the lens itself.
I think that attitude is more indicative of a good photographer than any dollar amount of sales or number of gallery showings.
Jun 22, 2010 at 01:45 AM
p.2 #12Missing my 50/1.2L...
mttran wrote:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/196/img0620editweb.jpg+1, the 3rd dimension of Canon light an unique look from the 50f1.2
You should show this to some of the turkeys in the alt forum. If you said it was from a Zeiss or Leica they'd piss their pants and tell you why Canon could never make a lens with such 3D capabilities.
Superb shot.
Edited on Jun 22, 2010 at 08:00 AM · View previous versions
jeremy_clay wrote
Quirks, like being awesome @ 1.2?http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/196/img0620editweb.jpg
an unique look from the 50f1.2You should show this to some of the turkeys in the alt forum. If you said it was from a Zeiss or Leica they'd piss their pants and tell you why Canon could never make a lens with such 3D capabilities.
Superb shot.
Edited on Jun 22, 2010 at 08:00 AM · View previous versions
Jun 22, 2010 at 04:19 AM
p.2 #13Missing my 50/1.2L...
jeremy_clay wrote:
So, I've been using the 50 1.2 heavily recently (4 engagement sessions, 3 weddings, 1 fashion shoot) and the thing seems to focus just fine at all distances, similarly to my Sigma but faster to focus. Very enjoyable, I have a 2009 date code I believe. I should have specified, that image posted above was @ 1.2 but it was also studio lit so the effect is a bit more dramatic.
Long story short - I've maybe had great luck, but both my Sigma and Canon 50mm's have been great.
How about showing us a shot from 5-6 feet away at f/2.5, or f/2.8, or....
Sure would like to see even one example that isn't soft (as in Vaseline soft). And NO PP, in ACR turn sharpening off completely. Let's see the unvarnished truth as it were.
Use a tripod if you want. I did.. Absolutely no difference. Use 1 series AF, 5 series, or even the new 7 series... It was so bad I couldn't believe it at first, but I eventually came around to acknowledging it.. I still can't accept it though..
So, I've been using the 50 1.2 heavily recently (4 engagement sessions, 3 weddings, 1 fashion shoot) and the thing seems to focus just fine at all distances, similarly to my Sigma but faster to focus. Very enjoyable, I have a 2009 date code I believe. I should have specified, that image posted above was @ 1.2 but it was also studio lit so the effect is a bit more dramatic.
Long story short - I've maybe had great luck, but both my Sigma and Canon 50mm's have been great.
How about showing us a shot from 5-6 feet away at f/2.5, or f/2.8, or....
Sure would like to see even one example that isn't soft (as in Vaseline soft). And NO PP, in ACR turn sharpening off completely. Let's see the unvarnished truth as it were.
Use a tripod if you want. I did.. Absolutely no difference. Use 1 series AF, 5 series, or even the new 7 series... It was so bad I couldn't believe it at first, but I eventually came around to acknowledging it.. I still can't accept it though..
Jun 22, 2010 at 07:51 AM
p.2 #14Missing my 50/1.2L...
Pixel Perfect wrote:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/196/img0620editweb.jpg+1, the 3rd dimension of Canon light an unique look from the 50f1.2You should show this to some of the turkeys in the alt forum. If you said it was from a Zeiss or Leica they'd piss their pants and tell why Canon could never make a lens with such 3D capabilities.
Superb shot.
Yes really good Leica/Zeiss glass. Canon could never do that
mttran wrote
jeremy_clay wrote
Quirks, like being awesome @ 1.2?http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/196/img0620editweb.jpg
an unique look from the 50f1.2Superb shot.
Yes really good Leica/Zeiss glass. Canon could never do that
Jun 22, 2010 at 07:58 AM
p.2 #15Missing my 50/1.2L...
I love my 50L.
The most important thing to me to come out of the lens is how the photos look as a whole... and I love the look! I'm happy to lose a little sharpness (which can be added in again) to get the bokeh and feel of the shots from it at f1.2.
I'll be using mine for years!
The most important thing to me to come out of the lens is how the photos look as a whole... and I love the look! I'm happy to lose a little sharpness (which can be added in again) to get the bokeh and feel of the shots from it at f1.2.
I'll be using mine for years!
Jun 22, 2010 at 08:02 AM
p.2 #16Missing my 50/1.2L...
jamesf99 wrote:
Long story short - I've maybe had great luck, but both my Sigma and Canon 50mm's have been great.How about showing us a shot from 5-6 feet away at f/2.5, or f/2.8, or....
Sure would like to see even one example that isn't soft (as in Vaseline soft). And NO PP, in ACR turn sharpening off completely. Let's see the unvarnished truth as it were.
Use a tripod if you want. I did.. Absolutely no difference. Use 1 series AF, 5 series, or even the new 7 series... It was so bad I couldn't believe it at first, but I eventually came around to acknowledging it.. I still can't accept it though..
So it's *no* sharp stopped down, you mean? I have a servo series all in great focus, but they're @ 1.4
jeremy_clay wrote
So, I've been using the 50 1.2 heavily recently (4 engagement sessions, 3 weddings, 1 fashion shoot) and the thing seems to focus just fine at all distances, similarly to my Sigma but faster to focus. Very enjoyable, I have a 2009 date code I believe. I should have specified, that image posted above was @ 1.2 but it was also studio lit so the effect is a bit more dramatic.Long story short - I've maybe had great luck, but both my Sigma and Canon 50mm's have been great.
Sure would like to see even one example that isn't soft (as in Vaseline soft). And NO PP, in ACR turn sharpening off completely. Let's see the unvarnished truth as it were.
Use a tripod if you want. I did.. Absolutely no difference. Use 1 series AF, 5 series, or even the new 7 series... It was so bad I couldn't believe it at first, but I eventually came around to acknowledging it.. I still can't accept it though..
So it's *no* sharp stopped down, you mean? I have a servo series all in great focus, but they're @ 1.4
Jun 22, 2010 at 08:07 AM
p.2 #18Missing my 50/1.2L...
Is this 6 ft? Is servo @ 1.2 good or bad (honestly, I'm not sure what the story is behind 1.2's aside from 'focus shift', but I do not know the details about what that is)
walking fairly briskly towards cam, servo, @ 1.2. USMed for the web resize but no other fixes/adjustments (the watch shows some of that 1.2 purple fringing
the shirt, too, a wee bit)
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6692/img0709edit.jpg
walking fairly briskly towards cam, servo, @ 1.2. USMed for the web resize but no other fixes/adjustments (the watch shows some of that 1.2 purple fringing
the shirt, too, a wee bit)http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6692/img0709edit.jpg
Jun 22, 2010 at 08:18 AM
p.2 #19Missing my 50/1.2L...
I find servo with the 5dii on centre point at 1.2 is fine - not tack sharp all the time (unsurprising), but fine.
Jun 22, 2010 at 08:28 AM
p.2 #20Missing my 50/1.2L...
So what is the issue? 2.0? 2.8? +? Just so I know as I don't often use any super fast lenses outside of their superfast apertures.
Jun 22, 2010 at 08:29 AM