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p.6 #1Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
Having black curtains in the background will certainly give one dark bokeh. 
Overstock has them BTW: Linky... I have seen them there for less, so maybe a sale will come soon.
Overstock has them BTW: Linky... I have seen them there for less, so maybe a sale will come soon.
May 16, 2010 at 12:30 AM
p.6 #3Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
cogitech wrote:
The "f1.8" is what I question. If that was the case, then I would have difficulty achieving critical focus at f1.2, and I don't.
You will only have difficulty with lenses that shifts focus. Like I said, try the DOF preview. You won't see any difference between f/1.2 and f/1.8.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
So I assume the Maxwell treated screen is supposed to transmit more light while at the same time maintaining a true, accurate representation of the lenses aperture?
I have no idea. The grain on the screen surface can be designed in many ways, but you'll always lose some light with slower lenses, if the screen should show the DOF of large apertures. There simply is no light falling in at those angles with a slow lens. Think of the surface as built up by very small prisms, allowing light to fall through at different angles. Every little grain has its own angle, and a very bright screen has only prisms at steep angles.
The "f1.8" is what I question. If that was the case, then I would have difficulty achieving critical focus at f1.2, and I don't.
You will only have difficulty with lenses that shifts focus. Like I said, try the DOF preview. You won't see any difference between f/1.2 and f/1.8.
Dpic_arctic wrote:
So I assume the Maxwell treated screen is supposed to transmit more light while at the same time maintaining a true, accurate representation of the lenses aperture?
I have no idea. The grain on the screen surface can be designed in many ways, but you'll always lose some light with slower lenses, if the screen should show the DOF of large apertures. There simply is no light falling in at those angles with a slow lens. Think of the surface as built up by very small prisms, allowing light to fall through at different angles. Every little grain has its own angle, and a very bright screen has only prisms at steep angles.
May 16, 2010 at 03:15 AM
p.6 #4Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
I don't know if it's a location thing with my "logged in" account with Amazon but I can't find any in stock at $248. The wife orders frequently from Overstock and she's even returned a few things and their customer service seems good.
Not sure if this has been asked or not, does the lens have any in mid-step f-stops between 1.4 and 2 i.e. does the aperture ring detent any between say f/1.8?
Thanks,
Roy
Not sure if this has been asked or not, does the lens have any in mid-step f-stops between 1.4 and 2 i.e. does the aperture ring detent any between say f/1.8?
Thanks,
Roy
May 16, 2010 at 07:45 AM
p.6 #5Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
lextalionis wrote:
Not sure if this has been asked or not, does the lens have any in mid-step f-stops between 1.4 and 2 i.e. does the aperture ring detent any between say f/1.8?
It has half-stop detents between f/2 and f/22, no detent between f/1.4 and f/2.
Not sure if this has been asked or not, does the lens have any in mid-step f-stops between 1.4 and 2 i.e. does the aperture ring detent any between say f/1.8?
It has half-stop detents between f/2 and f/22, no detent between f/1.4 and f/2.
May 16, 2010 at 07:53 AM
p.6 #6Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
One can still put it at roughly 1.8 even if there isn't any detent.
May 16, 2010 at 09:42 AM
p.6 #7Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
RZetter wrote:
One can still put it at roughly 1.8 even if there isn't any detent.
Or one could make their own detent.
One can still put it at roughly 1.8 even if there isn't any detent.
Or one could make their own detent.
May 16, 2010 at 09:47 AM
p.6 #8Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
Love my Rokinon. Hate the hood! Can anyone recommend a suitable replacement?
May 16, 2010 at 10:16 AM
p.6 #9Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
ScooberJake wrote:
Love my Rokinon. Hate the hood! Can anyone recommend a suitable replacement?
Yes. Get a knock-off of the Nikon HN-20 metal screw-in hood. This hood is for the Nikon 85/1.4 and goes for $32 at B&H http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/37602-REG/Nikon_562_HN_20_Lens_Hood_72mm.html , but you can find Chinese or Hong Kong knock-offs on e-bay for about 1/3rd to 1/2 of that price.
For example, I bought this one from this dealer: http://cgi.ebay.ca/New-Metal-72mm-Screw-In-Lens-Hood-For-Nikon-HN-20_W0QQitemZ160427569472
It is perfect.
Love my Rokinon. Hate the hood! Can anyone recommend a suitable replacement?
Yes. Get a knock-off of the Nikon HN-20 metal screw-in hood. This hood is for the Nikon 85/1.4 and goes for $32 at B&H http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/37602-REG/Nikon_562_HN_20_Lens_Hood_72mm.html , but you can find Chinese or Hong Kong knock-offs on e-bay for about 1/3rd to 1/2 of that price.
For example, I bought this one from this dealer: http://cgi.ebay.ca/New-Metal-72mm-Screw-In-Lens-Hood-For-Nikon-HN-20_W0QQitemZ160427569472
It is perfect.
May 16, 2010 at 11:35 AM
p.6 #10Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
Dpic_arctic wrote:
Is Overstock reputable?
I've purchased plenty from overstock and have been satisfied on every transaction.
Is Overstock reputable?
I've purchased plenty from overstock and have been satisfied on every transaction.
May 16, 2010 at 11:42 AM
p.6 #11Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
Found the Rokinon on Amazon from Cametta for $249.00 plus $9 s&h...got it!
Thanks Cogitech, got the Nikon HN-20 knock-off for $13 and change shipped.
I also ordered the EE-S Focus Screen for the 5DMK2 from B&H.
Can't wait!
Does anyone use ND filters with this lens and it so which ones? I'm actually considering an ND-Fader, this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/Fader-ND-Filter-adjustable-ND2-ND400-72mm-/140360763906?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Camera_Filters&hash=item20ae274a02
A lot of people like these for video, but I'm not sure about stills? I know I would use it for video. Also, I'm not sure how a filter would play with the hood.
-Roy
Thanks Cogitech, got the Nikon HN-20 knock-off for $13 and change shipped.
I also ordered the EE-S Focus Screen for the 5DMK2 from B&H.
Can't wait!
Does anyone use ND filters with this lens and it so which ones? I'm actually considering an ND-Fader, this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/Fader-ND-Filter-adjustable-ND2-ND400-72mm-/140360763906?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Camera_Filters&hash=item20ae274a02
A lot of people like these for video, but I'm not sure about stills? I know I would use it for video. Also, I'm not sure how a filter would play with the hood.
-Roy
May 16, 2010 at 06:26 PM
p.6 #12Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
I would find it hard (and possibly boring?) using a prime for video.
May 17, 2010 at 07:48 AM
p.6 #13Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
Dpic_arctic wrote:
I would find it hard (and possibly boring?) using a prime for video.
It would prevent over-use of zoom, which is good thing, IMO. Zoom-abuse is a sure-fire way to create "amateur" videos.
I would find it hard (and possibly boring?) using a prime for video.
It would prevent over-use of zoom, which is good thing, IMO. Zoom-abuse is a sure-fire way to create "amateur" videos.
May 17, 2010 at 07:59 AM
p.6 #14Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
To my knowledge fast primes are prefered in the DSLR video world.
May 17, 2010 at 08:25 AM
p.6 #15Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
cogitech wrote:
It would prevent over-use of zoom, which is good thing, IMO. Zoom-abuse is a sure-fire way to create "amateur" videos.
Not much of a video authority, but a +1 anyways. I would think a fast prime could take better advantage of the full-frame sensor and separate one's work from the usual handy-cam type movies with it's limitless DOF.
Dpic_arctic wrote
I would find it hard (and possibly boring?) using a prime for video.Not much of a video authority, but a +1 anyways. I would think a fast prime could take better advantage of the full-frame sensor and separate one's work from the usual handy-cam type movies with it's limitless DOF.
May 17, 2010 at 09:26 AM
p.6 #16Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
lextalionis wrote:
To my knowledge fast primes are prefered in the DSLR video world.
There's no point to using DSLRs for video (instead of HD video cameras) except in low-light conditions, so I guess that would make sense to pair it with a fast prime.
To my knowledge fast primes are prefered in the DSLR video world.
There's no point to using DSLRs for video (instead of HD video cameras) except in low-light conditions, so I guess that would make sense to pair it with a fast prime.
May 17, 2010 at 03:53 PM
p.6 #17Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
Dpic_arctic wrote:
I would find it hard (and possibly boring?) using a prime for video.
cogitech wrote:
It would prevent over-use of zoom, which is good thing, IMO. Zoom-abuse is a sure-fire way to create "amateur" videos.
Yes, I can see your point there, but then you go to the other extreme and are locked to one FL with a prime.
I would find it hard (and possibly boring?) using a prime for video.
cogitech wrote:
It would prevent over-use of zoom, which is good thing, IMO. Zoom-abuse is a sure-fire way to create "amateur" videos.
Yes, I can see your point there, but then you go to the other extreme and are locked to one FL with a prime.
May 17, 2010 at 03:57 PM
p.6 #19Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
Yes, right at the climax of the action. Fabulous idea.
May 17, 2010 at 05:43 PM
p.6 #20Canon or Rokinon 85mm?
The assumption, if you are shooting with a dSLR, is that the scenes, lighting, lenses, focus, etc. are planned out well in advance (as when movies are made).
If you are going to shoot "home videos" then get a handy-cam with an 800x zoom lens and go nuts.
If you are going to shoot "home videos" then get a handy-cam with an 800x zoom lens and go nuts.
May 17, 2010 at 06:14 PM