Samuli Vahonen
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AhamB wrote:
@Samuli: Interesting findings with the APO-Elmarit-R 180. I have the Mamiya 645 200/2.8 APO, which some have compared to the Leica and said that it favourably compares to it. The Leica's bokeh reminds me of the APO-Macro-Elmarit 100, which displays the same bright edges at times. The Mamiya certainly doesn't have this, but probably has a bit less "bite"/acutance too. Ok, didn't know about APO 100 had the same. I have noticed that the Mamiya 200APO bokeh is almost always very smooth (on the few hundred images I have seen from it).
AhamB wrote:
Are you taking any countermeasures to prevent your sharpening routine from making the bright edged bokeh too strong? I've found that the step sharpening method can have a huge impact on bokeh, so I either use layer masks or the history brush to remove excessive hardening of the bokeh.No, I don't work that way.
First of all I'm lazy and I really really hate sitting in computer and doing something like that.
Second I have learned hard way (close to 20kEUR investment on L-glass etc. stupid) that "sh#t in = sh#t out". No matter how much you massage it, it will never be same as the stuff, which is shoot right in the first place.
So the way how I compensate for this is that I don't shoot the way it will bring ugliness (=subjective) to bokeh. These were initial test shots of the lens and idea is to show the nature of the lens - internet is full of pictures showing only the best side of equipment. My personal preference is always to have little rough bokeh, all smooth is just boring. Depending on lens I may learn it in few days or they may take months or even years before I get the feeling I get predictable results.
I could compensate using "softer" step sharpening algorithm, but there is no way to compensate for this expect getting soft photo (no sharpening or poor sharpening technique, which also would not help since these bokeh ring edges are also enhanced by traditional edge sharpening algorithms) or doing some masking (too much work, boring an I just feel fake doing it).
Grenache wrote:
Samuli, the 80-200 shots are really lovely. Hope it found a good home. What was its weight like? I also mainly shoot primes, but a zoom in that range would be nice. Since I shoot almost exclusively outdoors, f/4 would not be a problem.
I have not sold 80-200, I may use it as 135-150mm f/4, I have never seen anything like it in this focal length range. But it's awful heavy for such limited use and I have hard time justifying carrying it so I doubt it will see much use. Have to get Leitax for it, the 180APO is really good after Leitaxing it; no "play" at all, I have always hated the "play" lenses have when they have adapter.
Weight, about 1kg, quite much of the weight in front - not ideal lens with small and light cameras like 5DmkII, it may feel much better with pro-bodies.
Nice flowers, specially the "jellyfish" some parts of the flower don't even like flower, more like somebody would have put small paper streamers into huge flower...
Sebboh & Telyt, I see the difficulty in bird photography , in Saturday big bird happened to come to tree in my back yard (quite close to house, about 6m/18ft), but even I shoot it with 500mm it wasn't so big I imagined, only filling in 1/4 of the width of frame (and it was big bird). Naturally my Sigma 150-500 isn't very good @ 500mm, I usually try to avoid using anything over 400mm, and I doubt shooting through window (I opened the inner door so there was only one glass, but still it must have bad effect to image quality) helped either. I would never have patience for bird photography, or I would sleep after I would get bored waiting the birds, not my thing...
carstenw wrote:
One from the Hansa Kokerei. Leica Summilux-R 35mm f/1.4 @ f/8, I believe. 8 shot HDR
Wow, really good "look" again, well done HDR.
Worldinlens, liked the 35mm photos, thanks for showing them.
Few more studies of 180APO rendering - I doubt I will shoot this much wide open when I really start to use the lens.
f/2.8
f/2.8 - really liking the quite lively bokeh
f/2.8
f/4 - larger
f/2.8 - rather difficult photo to bring same "depth" as the fullscreen (2560x1600 monitor), but the larger is much better than thumbnail shown below
f/2.8 - not very good test photo, could have shoot with almost any lens, but I kind of liked it...
Samuli
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