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p.84 #1Leica R Series Lenses
Yellow is the color. . .
Leica R 28-70 on 5D2.
Leica R 28-70 on 5D2.
Apr 15, 2012 at 10:45 PM
p.84 #2Leica R Series Lenses
Green, green, the color of Spring.
Leica R 28-70 on 5D2
Leica R 28-70 on 5D2
Apr 15, 2012 at 10:51 PM
p.84 #3Leica R Series Lenses
telyt wrote:
In my experience the f/5.6 is a weaker performer. Aside from detail, it has lower contrast & flares more readily. The f/6.8 isn't without optical quirks but in the central region (at least the area covered by the DMR) it's quite sharp with good color saturation and very little flare. It has some field curvature and color fringes in higher-contrast OOF areas; I've learned to work around these problems.
Thanks for the info, telyt. I thought this 560/5.6 would be a great telephoto on my APSC camera, but it just wasn't quite up to my expectation. Should have bought the f/6.8 version instead.
In my experience the f/5.6 is a weaker performer. Aside from detail, it has lower contrast & flares more readily. The f/6.8 isn't without optical quirks but in the central region (at least the area covered by the DMR) it's quite sharp with good color saturation and very little flare. It has some field curvature and color fringes in higher-contrast OOF areas; I've learned to work around these problems.
Thanks for the info, telyt. I thought this 560/5.6 would be a great telephoto on my APSC camera, but it just wasn't quite up to my expectation. Should have bought the f/6.8 version instead.
Apr 15, 2012 at 10:55 PM
p.84 #4Leica R Series Lenses
crazeazn wrote:
where do u guys find these R lenses, i never see any for sale anywhere. :/ (the good ones at least)
i just set up a email notification for auctions on ebay. got a 50/2 and 50/1.4 for much less than BIN lots.
where do u guys find these R lenses, i never see any for sale anywhere. :/ (the good ones at least)
i just set up a email notification for auctions on ebay. got a 50/2 and 50/1.4 for much less than BIN lots.
Apr 16, 2012 at 07:56 AM
p.84 #5Leica R Series Lenses
Nice, Jim. Congrats. Which version of the 50/1.4?
Apr 16, 2012 at 09:19 AM
p.84 #6Leica R Series Lenses
2Gunzorro: really nice pictures with Leica R 28-70... which version is this lens??
Apr 16, 2012 at 12:27 PM
p.84 #7Leica R Series Lenses
Worldinlens wrote:
What's with the price difference between these two (factoring in the used quality of the lenses too)? Is the ROM version the latest model and the 3rd cam the one that preceded it? And is the difference in price worth it for the latest model? I've read that the earlier 50Cron R's are more contrasty wide open.
I really like what I've seen from the Summicron Leica-R's versus the Zeiss C/Y 50/1.7 I used to own. The Summicrons produce photos much, much more flattering for people. And looking at the MTF of the latest model it maintains a strong plot right out to the edge (where the Zeiss falls off). There's a difference in speed though.Optically these two are the same. ROM might mean it's newer, or might not. The ROM will only matter if you're using the lens on a Leica R8 or R9.From somewhere in the serial numbers 36xxxxx R50/2 were produced in Germany. However, any difference in the coating I have not noticed.
my shop has a cron 50 but wants 1400 for it b/c its new
telyt wrote
bluetsunami wrote
A question about the various Summicron models and updates...What's with the price difference between these two (factoring in the used quality of the lenses too)? Is the ROM version the latest model and the 3rd cam the one that preceded it? And is the difference in price worth it for the latest model? I've read that the earlier 50Cron R's are more contrasty wide open.
I really like what I've seen from the Summicron Leica-R's versus the Zeiss C/Y 50/1.7 I used to own. The Summicrons produce photos much, much more flattering for people. And looking at the MTF of the latest model it maintains a strong plot right out to the edge (where the Zeiss falls off). There's a difference in speed though.
my shop has a cron 50 but wants 1400 for it b/c its new
Apr 16, 2012 at 12:32 PM
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p.84 #8Leica R Series Lenses
1400 - unrealistic high price for the R50/2
Buy the second hand version, just look to the serial number begins with 3xxxxxx and higher
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Buy the second hand version, just look to the serial number begins with 3xxxxxx and higher
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Apr 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM
p.84 #9Leica R Series Lenses
aCIDfire wrote:
2Gunzorro: really nice pictures with Leica R 28-70... which version is this lens??
I'm pretty sure there's only one version of the 28-70. But I stand corrected.
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2Gunzorro: really nice pictures with Leica R 28-70... which version is this lens??
I'm pretty sure there's only one version of the 28-70. But I stand corrected.
Edited on Apr 16, 2012 at 10:25 PM · View previous versions
Apr 16, 2012 at 12:38 PM
p.84 #10Leica R Series Lenses
aCIDfire -- There are two versions, and this is the second version, which reported to be the better of the two. The first version has a wider front focusing ring. You can see examples of the two types on ebay. Prices are very reasonable, and I'm quite impressed with the sharpness and color -- compares well to the Leica 60 macro, if that means anything to you.
Those yellow rocks are wide open around 28mm, the yellow bush is at f/8 at 40mm. The other shots were mostly f/5.6 to 8.0 settings, IIRC.
Those yellow rocks are wide open around 28mm, the yellow bush is at f/8 at 40mm. The other shots were mostly f/5.6 to 8.0 settings, IIRC.
Apr 16, 2012 at 01:14 PM
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p.84 #11Leica R Series Lenses
Worldinlens wrote:
1400 - unrealistic high price for the R50/2
Buy the second hand version, just look to the serial number begins with 3xxxxxx and higher
they also have a new 35 f/2 as well marked at $2899, both lenses have been sitting there for 5+ years but they refuse to budge on price.
1400 - unrealistic high price for the R50/2
Buy the second hand version, just look to the serial number begins with 3xxxxxx and higher
they also have a new 35 f/2 as well marked at $2899, both lenses have been sitting there for 5+ years but they refuse to budge on price.
Apr 16, 2012 at 01:42 PM
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p.84 #12Leica R Series Lenses
$2900 - the price of very-very good R35/1.4 second hand 
Apr 16, 2012 at 02:01 PM
p.84 #13Leica R Series Lenses
exactly, i'd only pay that kind of a price on a 90 AA
Apr 16, 2012 at 02:03 PM
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crazeazn wrote:
exactly, i'd only pay that kind of a price on a 90 AA
But about this lens i don't think seriously... When I have the R80/1.4 for bokeh-games and two Voigtlander-APO, 125 & 180 for extreme optical quality
exactly, i'd only pay that kind of a price on a 90 AA
But about this lens i don't think seriously...
When I have the R80/1.4 for bokeh-games and two Voigtlander-APO, 125 & 180 for extreme optical qualityApr 16, 2012 at 02:29 PM
p.84 #15Leica R Series Lenses
leica R prices may go up b/c of speculation on the MIL camera right?
Apr 16, 2012 at 02:30 PM
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p.84 #16Leica R Series Lenses
The prices for exellent Leica-R lenses continuously increased from year to year. However, as in all good manual lenses from other brands, which is no longer available.
P.S. Second hand prices, of course
http://test.www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/35mm_f/2_Summicron-R_II
Price of the new lens was $2995 in 2008. And this price is in general not reduced. Just R35 You can buy much cheaper now in excellent condition on eBay or or somewhere else
P.S. Second hand prices, of course
http://test.www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/35mm_f/2_Summicron-R_II
Price of the new lens was $2995 in 2008. And this price is in general not reduced. Just R35 You can buy much cheaper now in excellent condition on eBay or or somewhere else
Apr 16, 2012 at 02:38 PM
p.84 #17Leica R Series Lenses
Wow! You guys are too rich for my blood!
A few more from the humble 28-70.
BTW -- I'm really impressed how little (almost zero) CA this lens has, and not even a lot of distortion. The biggest difference between OOC and using the Canon 28-70L profile in LR4 is the removal of some vignetting and a bit of distortion -- but it's not outrageous.
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28-70L lens profile
A few more from the humble 28-70.
BTW -- I'm really impressed how little (almost zero) CA this lens has, and not even a lot of distortion. The biggest difference between OOC and using the Canon 28-70L profile in LR4 is the removal of some vignetting and a bit of distortion -- but it's not outrageous.
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28-70L lens profile
Apr 16, 2012 at 07:51 PM
p.84 #18Leica R Series Lenses
Gunzorro wrote:
aCIDfire -- There are two versions, and this is the second version, which reported to be the better of the two. The first version has a wider front focusing ring. You can see examples of the two types on ebay. Prices are very reasonable, and I'm quite impressed with the sharpness and color -- compares well to the Leica 60 macro, if that means anything to you.
Those yellow rocks are wide open around 28mm, the yellow bush is at f/8 at 40mm. The other shots were mostly f/5.6 to 8.0 settings, IIRC.
I got both versions. The 1st version (V1) is an excellent choice for cropped body, very good resolution at the center. In fact, if you look at the MTF (Leica Lens Compendium 2011), the V1 has higher resolution at the center, but weaker at the edge. In addition, the V1 is based on a 9 elements design. That's unusual for Leica, so I guess they did put a lot of effort on this one in 60's. On the other hand, the V2 has only 6 elements.
aCIDfire -- There are two versions, and this is the second version, which reported to be the better of the two. The first version has a wider front focusing ring. You can see examples of the two types on ebay. Prices are very reasonable, and I'm quite impressed with the sharpness and color -- compares well to the Leica 60 macro, if that means anything to you.
Those yellow rocks are wide open around 28mm, the yellow bush is at f/8 at 40mm. The other shots were mostly f/5.6 to 8.0 settings, IIRC.
I got both versions. The 1st version (V1) is an excellent choice for cropped body, very good resolution at the center. In fact, if you look at the MTF (Leica Lens Compendium 2011), the V1 has higher resolution at the center, but weaker at the edge. In addition, the V1 is based on a 9 elements design. That's unusual for Leica, so I guess they did put a lot of effort on this one in 60's. On the other hand, the V2 has only 6 elements.
Apr 16, 2012 at 09:48 PM
p.84 #19Leica R Series Lenses
phuang3 -- Only six elements?! I've never heard of a zoom having so few elements. Even the 35-70 f/4 has eight elements. Very interesting. I'll need some corroborating data on that.
Here's one of the articles I read while waiting for my lens to arrive. Mine is the later version, unveiled in 1997- made by Kyocera. I can't fault the optics, and the mechanics are impressive.
http://www.nemeng.com/leica/019c.shtml
Here's one of the articles I read while waiting for my lens to arrive. Mine is the later version, unveiled in 1997- made by Kyocera. I can't fault the optics, and the mechanics are impressive.
http://www.nemeng.com/leica/019c.shtml
Apr 16, 2012 at 10:24 PM
