Leica R Series Lenses
p.57 #1Leica R Series Lenses
For portrait I like the Contax N 85/1.4 and ZA 135/1.8. 
Sep 21, 2011 at 10:56 PM
p.57 #2Leica R Series Lenses
nixland wrote:
Yes, the glow is nice for general portrait. Below is the sample of Lux 80 glow at f1.4.
You call it "glow", to me it's just kind of ugly softness...
Sorry, but many of those lenses shown here are really not that great.
Yes, the glow is nice for general portrait. Below is the sample of Lux 80 glow at f1.4.
You call it "glow", to me it's just kind of ugly softness...
Sorry, but many of those lenses shown here are really not that great.
Sep 21, 2011 at 11:50 PM
p.57 #3Leica R Series Lenses
Well, the DOF is very thin though, the bottom eyelash was sharp but the eyeball was out of focus
Sep 21, 2011 at 11:58 PM
p.57 #4Leica R Series Lenses
snowboarder wrote:
You call it "glow", to me it's just kind of ugly softness...
I have to agree. With the 5.6 shot, it's clear that some parts of the dragonfly are in focus (even though they're not sharp and there's very little detail), whereas with the 1.4 shot the entire image is hazy and blurred--almost like it was taken with a fogged lens.
nixland wrote
Yes, the glow is nice for general portrait. Below is the sample of Lux 80 glow at f1.4.I have to agree. With the 5.6 shot, it's clear that some parts of the dragonfly are in focus (even though they're not sharp and there's very little detail), whereas with the 1.4 shot the entire image is hazy and blurred--almost like it was taken with a fogged lens.
Sep 22, 2011 at 09:55 AM
p.57 #5Leica R Series Lenses
Hmm, that looks softer than my (ex-) copy of the 80 Lux. Could she have been moving a bit?
Sep 22, 2011 at 02:31 PM
p.57 #6Leica R Series Lenses
Spoke to a few (former) owners and while they rave over its sharpness at ~5.6 and smaller, they all mentioned that sharpness wasn't why they bought it in the first place.
I guess if you want sharp wide-open above all, the 90 AA is where it's at.
I guess if you want sharp wide-open above all, the 90 AA is where it's at.
Sep 22, 2011 at 03:38 PM
p.57 #7Leica R Series Lenses
Sure, I own that too (M mount), but my 80 Lux was definitely sharper than the photo/crop you have shown.
Sep 22, 2011 at 03:49 PM
p.57 #8Leica R Series Lenses
nixland wrote:
I think if the 80 were sharp wide open, it would lose some of it's appeal as a portrait lens. A friend of mine wouldn't let me take her picture unless I was using "the crow's feet eraser." And with my copy, I found it was sharper in the center than my 85LII when both were shot at f/2. By f/2.8, it was razor sharp across the frame.Could it be that my lens is the first version of Lux 80? (Leitz Wetzlar name on the front ring instead of Leica)
I haven't tried it at f/2 or f/2.8 yet because I always shoot at wide open But I tried once at f5.6 and it's very very sharp (see below).
Mine has the Leitz Wetzlar name on it as well. Are you having any problems focusing? If you tripod mount it and use magnified LV, is that as sharp as you can get it? It may be a problem with the lens if you can't.
freaklikeme wrote
nixland wrote
If only Lux 80 is as sharp as Zeiss/Samyang wide open with no glow, I will sell bothI haven't tried it at f/2 or f/2.8 yet because I always shoot at wide open
But I tried once at f5.6 and it's very very sharp (see below).Mine has the Leitz Wetzlar name on it as well. Are you having any problems focusing? If you tripod mount it and use magnified LV, is that as sharp as you can get it? It may be a problem with the lens if you can't.
Sep 22, 2011 at 08:12 PM
p.57 #9Leica R Series Lenses
nixland wrote:
carstenw: that's why I ask in the previous page if the latest Lux 80 is sharper than what I have (first version with Leitz Wetzlar name on the front lens)
I don't think there are any optical differences between versions. Maybe the coating was improved along the way, but not the lens itself.
carstenw: that's why I ask in the previous page if the latest Lux 80 is sharper than what I have (first version with Leitz Wetzlar name on the front lens)
I don't think there are any optical differences between versions. Maybe the coating was improved along the way, but not the lens itself.
Sep 23, 2011 at 01:11 AM
p.57 #10Leica R Series Lenses
They talk about it here:
Leica R 80 Summilux; ROM vs 3-CAM
LEICA vs. LEITZ Summilux-R 80 f/1,4
Leica R 80 Summilux; ROM vs 3-CAM
LEICA vs. LEITZ Summilux-R 80 f/1,4
Sep 23, 2011 at 01:45 AM
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p.57 #11Leica R Series Lenses
freaklikeme wrote:
Nixland, here are the crops. I'm curious, on you shot, is the mouth any more in-focus than the eyes? It seems like the focus starts to get better on your crop on the extreme right side going down to the corner.
Here's crops of the wide open shots above.
Thanks for the crop sample.
No, the sharpest part was her cheek The eyeball and the mouth is OOF.
carstenw wrote:
I don't think there are any optical differences between versions. Maybe the coating was improved along the way, but not the lens itself.
I'll try to borrow my friend's latest Lux 80 to take a comparison shots. He is in different town so I'll find time to meet him. Wish me luck.
Parid wrote:
They talk about it here:
Leica R 80 Summilux; ROM vs 3-CAM
LEICA vs. LEITZ Summilux-R 80 f/1,4
Thanks for the link, Parid.
Nixland, here are the crops. I'm curious, on you shot, is the mouth any more in-focus than the eyes? It seems like the focus starts to get better on your crop on the extreme right side going down to the corner.
Here's crops of the wide open shots above.
Thanks for the crop sample.
No, the sharpest part was her cheek
The eyeball and the mouth is OOF.carstenw wrote:
nixland wrote
carstenw: that's why I ask in the previous page if the latest Lux 80 is sharper than what I have (first version with Leitz Wetzlar name on the front lens)I'll try to borrow my friend's latest Lux 80 to take a comparison shots. He is in different town so I'll find time to meet him. Wish me luck.
Parid wrote:
They talk about it here:
Leica R 80 Summilux; ROM vs 3-CAM
LEICA vs. LEITZ Summilux-R 80 f/1,4
Thanks for the link, Parid.
Sep 23, 2011 at 01:55 AM
p.57 #13Leica R Series Lenses
nixland,
Have you checked your R80 yet? Any haze on the edge of the glass? I was told by an expert that it is so common in old leica lenses.
Have you checked your R80 yet? Any haze on the edge of the glass? I was told by an expert that it is so common in old leica lenses.
Sep 23, 2011 at 08:44 AM
p.57 #14Leica R Series Lenses
nixland,
I don't think your lens is unsharp. I like the lens rendering style. It's great!
Enjoy to watch your pictures. Hope you can take more and share with us.
Thanks!
I don't think your lens is unsharp. I like the lens rendering style. It's great!
Enjoy to watch your pictures. Hope you can take more and share with us.
Thanks!
Sep 24, 2011 at 05:55 AM
p.57 #15Leica R Series Lenses
nixland,
And I don't think you should get another one. This lens is amazing!
And I don't think you should get another one. This lens is amazing!
Sep 24, 2011 at 05:57 AM
p.57 #16Leica R Series Lenses
nixland, it renders beautifully, even if it isn't as sharp as the latest copies. I wouldn't switch when you already have one.
Sep 24, 2011 at 12:39 PM
p.57 #18Leica R Series Lenses
Yeah, I don't see anything wrong in those samples. I think it's fine.
Sep 24, 2011 at 09:27 PM
p.57 #19Leica R Series Lenses
nixland -- Thanks for the comparisons. Great work.
Here are some from today with the 60/2.8 macro on the 1D2.
Here are some from today with the 60/2.8 macro on the 1D2.
Sep 27, 2011 at 05:02 PM
p.57 #20Leica R Series Lenses
Some more with the 60/2.8 R macro.
Weekend carnival pack-up.
(BTW, Carsten -- I saw your derelict Berlin amusement park this last weekend featured at the end of the movie of "Hanna". You really covered that place well -- I knew it immediately!)
Weekend carnival pack-up.
(BTW, Carsten -- I saw your derelict Berlin amusement park this last weekend featured at the end of the movie of "Hanna". You really covered that place well -- I knew it immediately!)
Sep 27, 2011 at 05:10 PM