Leica R Series Lenses
p.248 #1Leica R Series Lenses
Depends on how much caffeine one has had, among other factors 
I haven't used a stabilized lens recently but I do think it could help at medium tele and longer FLs.
Lieutenant Z wrote:
Fantastic shot! Did you use a tripod for this shot? How about the handling with this combination (handheld)?Thank you for looking and commenting on my shot.
I never use tripod (or very rarely and only for night shots). The 180/3.4 Apo telyt handles well with the D700 even if it is not the easiest lens to focus.Thanks for your immediate answer. But I thought, you used an A7/A7r like most of the others here at the moment.
Anyway, it is a great lens and I am wondering if stabilisation like IS or VR would improve the performance in this focal range?IMHO, stabilisation is just a gadget. For a 180 mm telephoto you just need a steady hand and a minimum speed of 1/250 s.
I haven't used a stabilized lens recently but I do think it could help at medium tele and longer FLs.Lieutenant Z wrote:
Toys6 wrote
Lieutenant Z wrote
Toys6 wrote
Lieutenant Z wrote
Cathedral of Reims with 180/3.4 Apo Telyt :I never use tripod (or very rarely and only for night shots). The 180/3.4 Apo telyt handles well with the D700 even if it is not the easiest lens to focus.
Anyway, it is a great lens and I am wondering if stabilisation like IS or VR would improve the performance in this focal range?
Dec 15, 2013 at 03:44 PM
p.248 #2Leica R Series Lenses
saph wrote:
Depends on how much caffeine one has had, among other factors I haven't used a stabilized lens recently but I do think it could help at medium tele and longer FLs.
Fantastic shot! Did you use a tripod for this shot? How about the handling with this combination (handheld)?Thank you for looking and commenting on my shot.
I never use tripod (or very rarely and only for night shots). The 180/3.4 Apo telyt handles well with the D700 even if it is not the easiest lens to focus.Thanks for your immediate answer. But I thought, you used an A7/A7r like most of the others here at the moment.
Anyway, it is a great lens and I am wondering if stabilisation like IS or VR would improve the performance in this focal range?IMHO, stabilisation is just a gadget. For a 180 mm telephoto you just need a steady hand and a minimum speed of 1/250 s.
worked great for me with my 350mm all the way down to 1/125 handheld using an olympus and kept giving me a high percentage of keepers all the way down to 1/20. i'm pretty sure i can't get anything critically sharp using a 700mm equivalent lens at 1/20 without image stabilization.
Depends on how much caffeine one has had, among other factors
I haven't used a stabilized lens recently but I do think it could help at medium tele and longer FLs.Lieutenant Z wrote
Toys6 wrote
Lieutenant Z wrote
Toys6 wrote
Lieutenant Z wrote
Cathedral of Reims with 180/3.4 Apo Telyt :I never use tripod (or very rarely and only for night shots). The 180/3.4 Apo telyt handles well with the D700 even if it is not the easiest lens to focus.
Anyway, it is a great lens and I am wondering if stabilisation like IS or VR would improve the performance in this focal range?
worked great for me with my 350mm all the way down to 1/125 handheld using an olympus and kept giving me a high percentage of keepers all the way down to 1/20. i'm pretty sure i can't get anything critically sharp using a 700mm equivalent lens at 1/20 without image stabilization.
Dec 15, 2013 at 05:52 PM
p.248 #3Leica R Series Lenses
The bench and the triad formation of geese is superb!
svmnb wrote:
All shot with Summicron R-50mm on EOS 6D
http://i.imgur.com/BG84uF0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oL91SWn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/d53vYAk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JkAddtl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CP0ljcK.jpg
svmnb wrote:
All shot with Summicron R-50mm on EOS 6D
http://i.imgur.com/BG84uF0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oL91SWn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/d53vYAk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JkAddtl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CP0ljcK.jpg
Dec 15, 2013 at 06:12 PM
p.248 #4Leica R Series Lenses
Very nice yet again Philippe, it seems you are able to previsualize the scene and then just wait for the right moment for it to materialize.
Lieutenant Z wrote:
The Sacré-Coeur, Paris, 50 cron :
Lieutenant Z wrote:
The Sacré-Coeur, Paris, 50 cron :
Dec 15, 2013 at 06:15 PM
p.248 #5Leica R Series Lenses
Then maybe I need to cut out tea and coffee 1/20th is quite amazing at that FL to get a high percentage. With my 400 5.6 manual Nikon I get good success, but I depend on keeping the shutter usually 1/400 or higher.
sebboh wrote:
I haven't used a stabilized lens recently but I do think it could help at medium tele and longer FLs.
Thank you for looking and commenting on my shot.
I never use tripod (or very rarely and only for night shots). The 180/3.4 Apo telyt handles well with the D700 even if it is not the easiest lens to focus.Thanks for your immediate answer. But I thought, you used an A7/A7r like most of the others here at the moment.
Anyway, it is a great lens and I am wondering if stabilisation like IS or VR would improve the performance in this focal range?IMHO, stabilisation is just a gadget. For a 180 mm telephoto you just need a steady hand and a minimum speed of 1/250 s.worked great for me with my 350mm all the way down to 1/125 handheld using an olympus and kept giving me a high percentage of keepers all the way down to 1/20. i'm pretty sure i can't get anything critically sharp using a 700mm equivalent lens at 1/20 without image stabilization.
1/20th is quite amazing at that FL to get a high percentage. With my 400 5.6 manual Nikon I get good success, but I depend on keeping the shutter usually 1/400 or higher.sebboh wrote:
saph wrote
Depends on how much caffeine one has had, among other factors I haven't used a stabilized lens recently but I do think it could help at medium tele and longer FLs.Lieutenant Z wrote
Toys6 wrote
Lieutenant Z wrote
Toys6 wrote
Fantastic shot! Did you use a tripod for this shot? How about the handling with this combination (handheld)?I never use tripod (or very rarely and only for night shots). The 180/3.4 Apo telyt handles well with the D700 even if it is not the easiest lens to focus.
Anyway, it is a great lens and I am wondering if stabilisation like IS or VR would improve the performance in this focal range?
Dec 15, 2013 at 06:18 PM
p.248 #6Leica R Series Lenses
Very nice, particularly the red berry surrounded by creamy bokeh. Congrats on the sweet acquisition!
Taylor Sherman wrote:
Got an 80 Lux this week. So far, I think it's a keeper. Much more compact than my ZF 100/2, and easier to focus IMO. More character too.
Not any great pictures so far, but here are some from today on the A7. First three WO, fourth at f/4 or maybe f/2.8 -- it's pretty sharp by f/2.8 at infinity.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7456/11375791673_a8e6f370cd_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5483/11375811653_b44628a2af_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3734/11375691765_b6bc8d42b3_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5514/11375953993_541c9d78d2_b.jpg
And a bonus 35/2 shot - I have to give credit to LR for the PP on this, I hit "auto" and wow, it hit the nail on the head.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/11375696265_b49a5c8619_b.jpg
Taylor Sherman wrote:
Got an 80 Lux this week. So far, I think it's a keeper. Much more compact than my ZF 100/2, and easier to focus IMO. More character too.
Not any great pictures so far, but here are some from today on the A7. First three WO, fourth at f/4 or maybe f/2.8 -- it's pretty sharp by f/2.8 at infinity.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7456/11375791673_a8e6f370cd_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5483/11375811653_b44628a2af_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3734/11375691765_b6bc8d42b3_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5514/11375953993_541c9d78d2_b.jpg
And a bonus 35/2 shot - I have to give credit to LR for the PP on this, I hit "auto" and wow, it hit the nail on the head.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/11375696265_b49a5c8619_b.jpg
Dec 15, 2013 at 06:20 PM
p.248 #7Leica R Series Lenses
saph wrote:
Then maybe I need to cut out tea and coffee 1/20th is quite amazing at that FL to get a high percentage. With my 400 5.6 manual Nikon I get good success, but I depend on keeping the shutter usually 1/400 or higher.
I haven't used a stabilized lens recently but I do think it could help at medium tele and longer FLs.
I never use tripod (or very rarely and only for night shots). The 180/3.4 Apo telyt handles well with the D700 even if it is not the easiest lens to focus.Thanks for your immediate answer. But I thought, you used an A7/A7r like most of the others here at the moment.
Anyway, it is a great lens and I am wondering if stabilisation like IS or VR would improve the performance in this focal range?IMHO, stabilisation is just a gadget. For a 180 mm telephoto you just need a steady hand and a minimum speed of 1/250 s.worked great for me with my 350mm all the way down to 1/125 handheld using an olympus and kept giving me a high percentage of keepers all the way down to 1/20. i'm pretty sure i can't get anything critically sharp using a 700mm equivalent lens at 1/20 without image stabilization.
yeah, with the same lens without image stabilization on i pretty much have to shoot 1/500 or faster.
Then maybe I need to cut out tea and coffee
1/20th is quite amazing at that FL to get a high percentage. With my 400 5.6 manual Nikon I get good success, but I depend on keeping the shutter usually 1/400 or higher.sebboh wrote
saph wrote
Depends on how much caffeine one has had, among other factors I haven't used a stabilized lens recently but I do think it could help at medium tele and longer FLs.Lieutenant Z wrote
Toys6 wrote
Lieutenant Z wrote
Thank you for looking and commenting on my shot.I never use tripod (or very rarely and only for night shots). The 180/3.4 Apo telyt handles well with the D700 even if it is not the easiest lens to focus.
Anyway, it is a great lens and I am wondering if stabilisation like IS or VR would improve the performance in this focal range?
yeah, with the same lens without image stabilization on i pretty much have to shoot 1/500 or faster.
Dec 15, 2013 at 06:26 PM
p.248 #8Leica R Series Lenses
waterden wrote:
I have just found this link which is an interesting commentary on R lenses if you havent seen it
http://www.overgaard.dk/Leica-M-Type-240-aka-Leica-M10-digital-rangefinder-camera-page-33-The-Leica-R-Lenses-on-Leica-M240-Catwalk.html
Finally had time to read it; it's an interesting article. Thank you.
I am still wondering where the M and R price differences come from (more work to squeeze glass into smaller enclosure or demand/marketing?) Nevertheless, the write-up is a good guideline to get few R jewels from the past (I have a link to more detailed coverage of selected R glass - will try to find it after dinner)
Few wide open shots from Summilux-R 80 to welcome Vancouver's sky brightening weather.
I have just found this link which is an interesting commentary on R lenses if you havent seen it
http://www.overgaard.dk/Leica-M-Type-240-aka-Leica-M10-digital-rangefinder-camera-page-33-The-Leica-R-Lenses-on-Leica-M240-Catwalk.html
Finally had time to read it; it's an interesting article. Thank you.
I am still wondering where the M and R price differences come from (more work to squeeze glass into smaller enclosure or demand/marketing?) Nevertheless, the write-up is a good guideline to get few R jewels from the past (I have a link to more detailed coverage of selected R glass - will try to find it after dinner)
Few wide open shots from Summilux-R 80 to welcome Vancouver's sky brightening weather.
Dec 15, 2013 at 07:24 PM
p.248 #9Leica R Series Lenses
Wow Jako, that first one 80 lux image of the blue walkway grille brightened by sunlight is delightful!
Here's a couple with the Summicron 90 f2.
Leaves
Leaves by maryland_photos, on Flickr
Lichen
Lichen by maryland_photos, on Flickr
Elephants
Elephants by maryland_photos, on Flickr
Here's a couple with the Summicron 90 f2.
Leaves
Leaves by maryland_photos, on Flickr
Lichen
Lichen by maryland_photos, on Flickr
Elephants
Elephants by maryland_photos, on Flickr
Dec 15, 2013 at 07:33 PM
p.248 #10Leica R Series Lenses
@Jako...superb shots with the 80! What beautiful rendering! Love the first shot the most..I'm a sucker for wide open/tons of buttery bokeh!!
@saph...really like the leaves...I just got the 50 Lux, and I think the 90 Cron will be my next...but I have been using the 90 Elmarit, and really enjoy the colors from it...we'll see.
Gregg
@saph...really like the leaves...I just got the 50 Lux, and I think the 90 Cron will be my next...but I have been using the 90 Elmarit, and really enjoy the colors from it...we'll see.
Gregg
Dec 15, 2013 at 07:52 PM
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p.248 #13Leica R Series Lenses
Thank you saph, Gregg & Manu.
Summilux-R 80 suppose to shine mid/far distances. Once excitement of shotting WO fades I will put it to land/cityscape use.
Summicron-R 50; great lens but it's hard (for me at least) to capture non-flat images with it.
@f/5.6
@f/2.8
Summilux-R 80 suppose to shine mid/far distances. Once excitement of shotting WO fades I will put it to land/cityscape use.
Summicron-R 50; great lens but it's hard (for me at least) to capture non-flat images with it.
@f/5.6
@f/2.8
Dec 16, 2013 at 12:13 AM
p.248 #16Leica R Series Lenses
Greggf wrote:
^^^^^Stunning shot!!! Jako
Gregg
+1, incredible clarity. A7R or D800E?
I am curious to hear your opinion between the two, Jack.
^^^^^Stunning shot!!! Jako
Gregg
+1, incredible clarity. A7R or D800E?
I am curious to hear your opinion between the two, Jack.
Dec 16, 2013 at 12:32 AM
p.248 #17Leica R Series Lenses
Hard to post a pic after that above shot, Jack!!
Gregg
50 Lux WO into the sunlight
Gregg
50 Lux WO into the sunlight
Dec 16, 2013 at 12:46 AM
p.248 #18Leica R Series Lenses
Thanks guys.
I only shot +/- 350 frames with A7r including 50 or so frames of shutter sound comparison with another photog using A7, but few shots between A7R/D800E show slight sharpness increase most likely due to true AA-less design of A7r. Both cameras are built differently and for different use. From image output perspective I am pleased with A7R and honestly I didn't even bother going into details to compare it extensively to D800E. A7R has all I needed (no IQ compromise if giving up on D800E) so it becomes my primary digital camera from now on.
As for Summicron-R 35; I mostly use it between f/2.8 -4.0 but this lens is very sharp when stopped down. From my tests it slightly outperforms Zeiss Distagon 2/35 at least in the center.
area.
I only shot +/- 350 frames with A7r including 50 or so frames of shutter sound comparison with another photog using A7, but few shots between A7R/D800E show slight sharpness increase most likely due to true AA-less design of A7r. Both cameras are built differently and for different use. From image output perspective I am pleased with A7R and honestly I didn't even bother going into details to compare it extensively to D800E. A7R has all I needed (no IQ compromise if giving up on D800E) so it becomes my primary digital camera from now on.
As for Summicron-R 35; I mostly use it between f/2.8 -4.0 but this lens is very sharp when stopped down. From my tests it slightly outperforms Zeiss Distagon 2/35 at least in the center.
area.
Dec 16, 2013 at 12:51 AM
p.248 #19Leica R Series Lenses
Thanks Samy. Like the leaves & the éléphants.
street scene from Montmartre, 50 cron :
street scene from Montmartre, 50 cron :
Dec 16, 2013 at 11:58 AM
p.248 #20Leica R Series Lenses
^^^^nice shot, LTZ! Great foreground and background bokeh!
Gregg
Gregg
Dec 16, 2013 at 02:19 PM