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Roni, posted this picture on the Z55 thread
So, the contrast (10 and 20ln/mm) similar to E60, except corners - WRONG
Sorry, Leica have 5 and 10, zeiss 10 only on graphs, so of course Zeiss have contrast more than 2 times better
Resolution - 30 and 40ln/mm, all clear from graphs
Latest samples from fashion show on the end http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlzeisslenses/sets/72157635236491881/with/10305442954/
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So, the contrast (10 and 20ln/mm) similar to E60, except corners - WRONG
Sorry, Leica have 5 and 10, zeiss 10 only on graphs, so of course Zeiss have contrast more than 2 times better
Resolution - 30 and 40ln/mm, all clear from graphs
Latest samples from fashion show on the end http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlzeisslenses/sets/72157635236491881/with/10305442954/
Edited by Guest on Oct 25, 2013 at 01:02 PM · View previous versions
Oct 25, 2013 at 08:04 AM
p.228 #2Leica R Series Lenses
Aren't the Leica MTF lines 5, 10, 20, and 40 lp/mm? If so, then the Otus (Zeiss MTFs are 10, 20, 40 lp/mm) is pretty solidly higher-contrast, too.
Oct 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM
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Taylor Sherman wrote:
Aren't the Leica MTF lines 5, 10, 20, and 40 lp/mm? If so, then the Otus (Zeiss MTFs are 10, 20, 40 lp/mm) is pretty solidly higher-contrast, too.
Absolutely correct Taylor! I'm forgot that Leica started from 5
Aren't the Leica MTF lines 5, 10, 20, and 40 lp/mm? If so, then the Otus (Zeiss MTFs are 10, 20, 40 lp/mm) is pretty solidly higher-contrast, too.
Absolutely correct Taylor! I'm forgot that Leica started from 5
Oct 25, 2013 at 12:57 PM
p.228 #4Leica R Series Lenses
sebboh wrote:
very nice! like the toning too.
+1. I really like the contrast between the old boat and the modern buildings!
JaKo wrote
Fog rolling out.... --->+1. I really like the contrast between the old boat and the modern buildings!
Oct 26, 2013 at 08:40 AM
p.228 #6Leica R Series Lenses
sebboh wrote:
shute – the a7r has continuous focus peaking available during video, and of course an evf, which is very helpful.
canon's actually have better video implementation (peaking, zebras, higher throughput) once you get magic lantern (except that canons don't have evfs of course).
the new nikon sounds very interesting, i'm excited to see what it actually is. the primary difficulty with nikon (and canon to a lessor extent) is that many of the R lenses will interfere with the mirror movements unless you modify portions of the lens, camera mirror, or both. not sure if this is an issue for any of...Show more →
Thanks for letting me know sebbonh. Wen you say Canon has peaking, did you mean with alternative firmware?
zhangyue wrote:
I thought any lens have mirror clearance problem with Nikon, will apply to Canon as well, maybe only Sony is good at that.
Shute, sorry, I totally forget Video. I still recommend Nikon over others. but A7R will be a hard one to resist. I pre-order one, but not sure how I wan use it with my Leica R yet.
As for 80-200, the performace is very good, especially before 150mm, but if I can choose, I will get 135 zeiss or 100 APO instead of 80-200. You gain two stop speed and DOF and can crop to get the...Show more →
Zhangyue, I need the zoom for my architectural, and I don't think I can bring 70-180 everywhere everyday.
Between 80/1.4 and 100 APO, which one would you choose?
Worldinlens wrote:
As I know for this moment there is only few "low-cost" devices for high-quality video capture
Panasonic GH2 - the old king, alternative firmware, almost any lenses
BlackMagic camera - of course uncompressed output, almost any lenses
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagiccinemacamera
Canon 5D3 - the new (full frame) king, alternative firmware, uncompressed output, many lenses
Regarding new sony product line here
http://www.eoshd.com/content/11380/new-sony-a7-a7r-rx10-exclusive-hands-look-video-quality
Want video? RX10
Thanks Worldinlens,
I saw someone using GH2 shot commercial portrait which was very successful. Among these bodies, only 5D3 is full frame. Let me think...
shute – the a7r has continuous focus peaking available during video, and of course an evf, which is very helpful.
canon's actually have better video implementation (peaking, zebras, higher throughput) once you get magic lantern (except that canons don't have evfs of course).
the new nikon sounds very interesting, i'm excited to see what it actually is. the primary difficulty with nikon (and canon to a lessor extent) is that many of the R lenses will interfere with the mirror movements unless you modify portions of the lens, camera mirror, or both. not sure if this is an issue for any of...Show more →
Thanks for letting me know sebbonh. Wen you say Canon has peaking, did you mean with alternative firmware?
zhangyue wrote:
I thought any lens have mirror clearance problem with Nikon, will apply to Canon as well, maybe only Sony is good at that.
Shute, sorry, I totally forget Video. I still recommend Nikon over others. but A7R will be a hard one to resist. I pre-order one, but not sure how I wan use it with my Leica R yet.
As for 80-200, the performace is very good, especially before 150mm, but if I can choose, I will get 135 zeiss or 100 APO instead of 80-200. You gain two stop speed and DOF and can crop to get the...Show more →
Zhangyue, I need the zoom for my architectural, and I don't think I can bring 70-180 everywhere everyday.
Between 80/1.4 and 100 APO, which one would you choose?
Worldinlens wrote:
As I know for this moment there is only few "low-cost" devices for high-quality video capture
Panasonic GH2 - the old king, alternative firmware, almost any lenses
BlackMagic camera - of course uncompressed output, almost any lenses
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagiccinemacamera
Canon 5D3 - the new (full frame) king, alternative firmware, uncompressed output, many lenses
Regarding new sony product line here
http://www.eoshd.com/content/11380/new-sony-a7-a7r-rx10-exclusive-hands-look-video-quality
Want video? RX10
Thanks Worldinlens,
I saw someone using GH2 shot commercial portrait which was very successful. Among these bodies, only 5D3 is full frame. Let me think...
Oct 26, 2013 at 05:04 PM
p.228 #7Leica R Series Lenses
shute wrote:
canon's actually have better video implementation (peaking, zebras, higher throughput) once you get magic lantern (except that canons don't have evfs of course).
the new nikon sounds very interesting, i'm excited to see what it actually is. the primary difficulty with nikon (and canon to a lessor extent) is that many of the R lenses will interfere with the mirror movements unless you modify portions of the lens, camera mirror, or both. not sure if this is an issue for any of the lenses you're interested in though (you should double check).Thanks for letting me know sebbonh. Wen you say Canon has peaking, did you mean with alternative firmware?
yes, magic lantern: http://www.magiclantern.fm/features.html
sebboh wrote
shute – the a7r has continuous focus peaking available during video, and of course an evf, which is very helpful.canon's actually have better video implementation (peaking, zebras, higher throughput) once you get magic lantern (except that canons don't have evfs of course).
the new nikon sounds very interesting, i'm excited to see what it actually is. the primary difficulty with nikon (and canon to a lessor extent) is that many of the R lenses will interfere with the mirror movements unless you modify portions of the lens, camera mirror, or both. not sure if this is an issue for any of the lenses you're interested in though (you should double check).
yes, magic lantern: http://www.magiclantern.fm/features.html
Oct 26, 2013 at 05:29 PM
p.228 #8Leica R Series Lenses
shute wrote:
canon's actually have better video implementation (peaking, zebras, higher throughput) once you get magic lantern (except that canons don't have evfs of course).
the new nikon sounds very interesting, i'm excited to see what it actually is. the primary difficulty with nikon (and canon to a lessor extent) is that many of the R lenses will interfere with the mirror movements unless you modify portions of the lens, camera mirror, or both. not sure if this is an issue for any of the lenses you're interested in though (you should double check).Thanks for letting me know sebbonh. Wen you say Canon has peaking, did you mean with alternative firmware?
Shute, sorry, I totally forget Video. I still recommend Nikon over others. but A7R will be a hard one to resist. I pre-order one, but not sure how I wan use it with my Leica R yet.
As for 80-200, the performace is very good, especially before 150mm, but if I can choose, I will get 135 zeiss or 100 APO instead of 80-200. You gain two stop speed and DOF and can crop to get the FOV with sensor have so many pixel now.....Zhangyue, I need the zoom for my architectural, and I don't think I can bring 70-180 everywhere everyday.
Between 80/1.4 and 100 APO, which one would you choose?
Panasonic GH2 - the old king, alternative firmware, almost any lenses
BlackMagic camera - of course uncompressed output, almost any lenses
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagiccinemacamera
Canon 5D3 - the new (full frame) king, alternative firmware, uncompressed output, many lenses
Regarding new sony product line here
http://www.eoshd.com/content/11380/new-sony-a7-a7r-rx10-exclusive-hands-look-video-quality
Want video? RX10Thanks Worldinlens,
I saw someone using GH2 shot commercial portrait which was very successful. Among these bodies, only 5D3 is full frame. Let me think...
For me, 80lux. But that is totally depend on your personal need. Anything less than f2 is not very practical for me to do fast focus over all condition. If your priority is landscape, macro, than the answer will be different.
On the other hand, 80lux will be a great video lens for sure.
sebboh wrote
shute – the a7r has continuous focus peaking available during video, and of course an evf, which is very helpful.canon's actually have better video implementation (peaking, zebras, higher throughput) once you get magic lantern (except that canons don't have evfs of course).
the new nikon sounds very interesting, i'm excited to see what it actually is. the primary difficulty with nikon (and canon to a lessor extent) is that many of the R lenses will interfere with the mirror movements unless you modify portions of the lens, camera mirror, or both. not sure if this is an issue for any of the lenses you're interested in though (you should double check).
zhangyue wrote
I thought any lens have mirror clearance problem with Nikon, will apply to Canon as well, maybe only Sony is good at that.Shute, sorry, I totally forget Video. I still recommend Nikon over others. but A7R will be a hard one to resist. I pre-order one, but not sure how I wan use it with my Leica R yet.
As for 80-200, the performace is very good, especially before 150mm, but if I can choose, I will get 135 zeiss or 100 APO instead of 80-200. You gain two stop speed and DOF and can crop to get the FOV with sensor have so many pixel now.....
Between 80/1.4 and 100 APO, which one would you choose?
Worldinlens wrote
As I know for this moment there is only few "low-cost" devices for high-quality video capturePanasonic GH2 - the old king, alternative firmware, almost any lenses
BlackMagic camera - of course uncompressed output, almost any lenses
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagiccinemacamera
Canon 5D3 - the new (full frame) king, alternative firmware, uncompressed output, many lenses
Regarding new sony product line here
http://www.eoshd.com/content/11380/new-sony-a7-a7r-rx10-exclusive-hands-look-video-quality
Want video? RX10
I saw someone using GH2 shot commercial portrait which was very successful. Among these bodies, only 5D3 is full frame. Let me think...
For me, 80lux. But that is totally depend on your personal need. Anything less than f2 is not very practical for me to do fast focus over all condition. If your priority is landscape, macro, than the answer will be different.
On the other hand, 80lux will be a great video lens for sure.
Oct 26, 2013 at 06:04 PM
p.228 #9Leica R Series Lenses
The 100mm f2.8 Macro Apo Elmarit is an outstanding lens for close-up, mid distance and even landscape and distance work. However, it is not the easyist lens to focus due to its extremely long focus throw of almost 2 complete revolutions to focus from infinity to 1/2 life size. Still it is one of my favorite lenses though I usually use it on a tripod. It is exceptionally sharp.
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Oct 26, 2013 at 06:12 PM
p.228 #10Leica R Series Lenses
I'm looking at some long lenses for the coming sony a7r. Among other lenses, I've eyed the Leica elmarit 135/2.8. The asking price for this lens is really low now, is that indicative of it's performance?
Oct 26, 2013 at 06:31 PM
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p.228 #11Leica R Series Lenses
ulrikft2 wrote:
I'm looking at some long lenses for the coming sony a7r. Among other lenses, I've eyed the Leica elmarit 135/2.8. The asking price for this lens is really low now, is that indicative of it's performance?
There are several versions of the lens, the last/latter being best. I have never used the Leica 135mm R lenses and I do not believe they were the most popular. I believe that most of us went from 90mm to 180mm.
http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/135mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-R_I
http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/135mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-R_II
Rich
I'm looking at some long lenses for the coming sony a7r. Among other lenses, I've eyed the Leica elmarit 135/2.8. The asking price for this lens is really low now, is that indicative of it's performance?
There are several versions of the lens, the last/latter being best. I have never used the Leica 135mm R lenses and I do not believe they were the most popular. I believe that most of us went from 90mm to 180mm.
http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/135mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-R_I
http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/135mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-R_II
Rich
Oct 26, 2013 at 06:36 PM
p.228 #12Leica R Series Lenses
It is a good lens, but not special like some of the others. I used one with my 5D a few years back, and liked it, but didn't love it. The sharpness isn't up to some of the later lenses.
Oct 26, 2013 at 06:40 PM
p.228 #13Leica R Series Lenses
carstenw wrote:
It is a good lens, but not special like some of the others. I used one with my 5D a few years back, and liked it, but didn't love it. The sharpness isn't up to some of the later lenses.
Agreed, good but not great. Also very heavy and a long-ish minimum focus distance.
It is a good lens, but not special like some of the others. I used one with my 5D a few years back, and liked it, but didn't love it. The sharpness isn't up to some of the later lenses.
Agreed, good but not great. Also very heavy and a long-ish minimum focus distance.
Oct 26, 2013 at 07:41 PM
p.228 #14Leica R Series Lenses
Leica r 100 apo + Elpro
DSC00198-2 by sylimphoto, on Flickr
Btw, i have r 80 lux for sale., no haze, no scratch, no fungus.
Interested pls pm me.
Thanks
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DSC00198-2 by sylimphoto, on Flickr
Btw, i have r 80 lux for sale., no haze, no scratch, no fungus.
Interested pls pm me.
Thanks
:X
Oct 27, 2013 at 07:16 AM
p.228 #15Leica R Series Lenses
Leica r 80 1.4mm
DSC05293 by sylimphoto, on Flickr
DSC05293 by sylimphoto, on Flickr
Oct 27, 2013 at 07:20 AM
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shute wrote:
canon's actually have better video implementation (peaking, zebras, higher throughput) once you get magic lantern (except that canons don't have evfs of course).
the new nikon sounds very interesting, i'm excited to see what it actually is. the primary difficulty with nikon (and canon to a lessor extent) is that many of the R lenses will interfere with the mirror movements unless you modify portions of the lens, camera mirror, or both. not sure if this is an issue for any of the lenses you're interested in though (you should double check).Thanks for letting me know sebbonh. Wen you say Canon has peaking, did you mean with alternative firmware?
Shute, sorry, I totally forget Video. I still recommend Nikon over others. but A7R will be a hard one to resist. I pre-order one, but not sure how I wan use it with my Leica R yet.
As for 80-200, the performace is very good, especially before 150mm, but if I can choose, I will get 135 zeiss or 100 APO instead of 80-200. You gain two stop speed and DOF and can crop to get the FOV with sensor have so many pixel now.....Zhangyue, I need the zoom for my architectural, and I don't think I can bring 70-180 everywhere everyday.
Between 80/1.4 and 100 APO, which one would you choose?
Panasonic GH2 - the old king, alternative firmware, almost any lenses
BlackMagic camera - of course uncompressed output, almost any lenses
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagiccinemacamera
Canon 5D3 - the new (full frame) king, alternative firmware, uncompressed output, many lenses
Regarding new sony product line here
http://www.eoshd.com/content/11380/new-sony-a7-a7r-rx10-exclusive-hands-look-video-quality
Want video? RX10Thanks Worldinlens,
I saw someone using GH2 shot commercial portrait which was very successful. Among these bodies, only 5D3 is full frame. Let me think...
Here one the many videos how much firmware means, for example for 5D3
sebboh wrote
shute – the a7r has continuous focus peaking available during video, and of course an evf, which is very helpful.canon's actually have better video implementation (peaking, zebras, higher throughput) once you get magic lantern (except that canons don't have evfs of course).
the new nikon sounds very interesting, i'm excited to see what it actually is. the primary difficulty with nikon (and canon to a lessor extent) is that many of the R lenses will interfere with the mirror movements unless you modify portions of the lens, camera mirror, or both. not sure if this is an issue for any of the lenses you're interested in though (you should double check).
zhangyue wrote
I thought any lens have mirror clearance problem with Nikon, will apply to Canon as well, maybe only Sony is good at that.Shute, sorry, I totally forget Video. I still recommend Nikon over others. but A7R will be a hard one to resist. I pre-order one, but not sure how I wan use it with my Leica R yet.
As for 80-200, the performace is very good, especially before 150mm, but if I can choose, I will get 135 zeiss or 100 APO instead of 80-200. You gain two stop speed and DOF and can crop to get the FOV with sensor have so many pixel now.....
Between 80/1.4 and 100 APO, which one would you choose?
Worldinlens wrote
As I know for this moment there is only few "low-cost" devices for high-quality video capturePanasonic GH2 - the old king, alternative firmware, almost any lenses
BlackMagic camera - of course uncompressed output, almost any lenses
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagiccinemacamera
Canon 5D3 - the new (full frame) king, alternative firmware, uncompressed output, many lenses
Regarding new sony product line here
http://www.eoshd.com/content/11380/new-sony-a7-a7r-rx10-exclusive-hands-look-video-quality
Want video? RX10
I saw someone using GH2 shot commercial portrait which was very successful. Among these bodies, only 5D3 is full frame. Let me think...
Here one the many videos how much firmware means, for example for 5D3
Oct 27, 2013 at 08:42 AM
p.228 #17Leica R Series Lenses
telyt wrote:
Agreed, good but not great. Also very heavy and a long-ish minimum focus distance.
Thanks guys! The search for a lightweight, nice 135mm continues
carstenw wrote
It is a good lens, but not special like some of the others. I used one with my 5D a few years back, and liked it, but didn't love it. The sharpness isn't up to some of the later lenses.Thanks guys! The search for a lightweight, nice 135mm continues
Oct 27, 2013 at 12:57 PM
p.228 #19Leica R Series Lenses
Taylor, A great one. Nice catch of light beam.
LZ, A very nice catch for the moment. great trap focus skill, as always.
Xenon99, That is a crazy macro.
80lux from weekend
WO
LZ, A very nice catch for the moment. great trap focus skill, as always.
Xenon99, That is a crazy macro.
80lux from weekend
WO
Oct 27, 2013 at 09:46 PM