Leica R Series Lenses
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Worldinlens wrote:
But even the sharp mind and lenses do not guarantee the sharp images 
Lovely - that quote could be attributable to Confucius !
Almass wrote
Sharpness is a state of mind. Lovely - that quote could be attributable to Confucius !
Feb 06, 2013 at 05:14 AM
p.152 #3Leica R Series Lenses
philip_pj wrote:
'Is the 35mm as sharp as or sharper than the 50mm I already own (sharpness is important for my work)?'
No it's not - even in the centre. Do you need all-of-frame sharpness, what aperture do you shoot at? Most wide angle/normal Leica R lenses have fall-off mid-frame, but strong central sharpness. And lovely bokeh, tonal transitions, colour purity, and much more that make them incomparable to Nikkor lenses IMOm, they are connoisseurs' lenses. Best cross-frame performance at 35mm in Leica R is the 35-70/4 zoom. But what you like/want in the 50/2 the 35/2 has, very likely...
Trade off's between the 35f2 prime and 35-70f4 zoom.
little distortion / distortion at 35
2.0 shooting / only f4
2.0 focusing / only f4 less accurate
corner sharpness: ok \ better
I carry the zoom quite a bit since adding it to my quiver. It really does a lot for me, very convenient. If I could have the performance of the 35 prime as part of the zoom, I would do it without hesitation. I don't find I use it much at f2 but at 2.8 it is great for group portraits.
A few more shots of the 35f2: both close to 100% crop. Ignore exif on 2nd shot, chip was being recognized as a plastic fantastic 50 before I programmed it.
jp
'Is the 35mm as sharp as or sharper than the 50mm I already own (sharpness is important for my work)?'
No it's not - even in the centre. Do you need all-of-frame sharpness, what aperture do you shoot at? Most wide angle/normal Leica R lenses have fall-off mid-frame, but strong central sharpness. And lovely bokeh, tonal transitions, colour purity, and much more that make them incomparable to Nikkor lenses IMOm, they are connoisseurs' lenses. Best cross-frame performance at 35mm in Leica R is the 35-70/4 zoom. But what you like/want in the 50/2 the 35/2 has, very likely...
Trade off's between the 35f2 prime and 35-70f4 zoom.
little distortion / distortion at 35
2.0 shooting / only f4
2.0 focusing / only f4 less accurate
corner sharpness: ok \ better
I carry the zoom quite a bit since adding it to my quiver. It really does a lot for me, very convenient. If I could have the performance of the 35 prime as part of the zoom, I would do it without hesitation. I don't find I use it much at f2 but at 2.8 it is great for group portraits.
A few more shots of the 35f2: both close to 100% crop. Ignore exif on 2nd shot, chip was being recognized as a plastic fantastic 50 before I programmed it.
jp
Feb 06, 2013 at 10:14 AM
p.152 #4Leica R Series Lenses
Thanks for the answers, so between the 50mm and 35, I should go for the 50. The idea was that I need a wide angle lens. Found this Lens Elmarit-R 2,8/28 mm with serial 282... which makes it -77. But for a hefty price, $550usd. I think its little bit too much but anyway, is it worth it? Should i sell the 35 and go for the 28mm?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Feb 06, 2013 at 12:07 PM
p.152 #5Leica R Series Lenses
Just forgot to add that it makes the Elmarit-R 2,8/28 mm version 1 and I red somewhere that in that case it is needed of an extender or something? Won't it be good with the regular leica/nikon-f mount from Leitax?
Feb 06, 2013 at 12:23 PM
p.152 #6Leica R Series Lenses
The 28mm f2.8 everyone raves about is the V2, mehstein - think $$$$$. Most pass by the V1, but perhaps it's better than that?
Might be sacrilege to say so, but I suggest you look for a Contax Distagon 28mm f2.8 MM at the 28mm FL. 35mm is all over the place IMO IF you want/need flat field. Otherwise see comments and Leica R photos above!
Might be sacrilege to say so, but I suggest you look for a Contax Distagon 28mm f2.8 MM at the 28mm FL. 35mm is all over the place IMO IF you want/need flat field. Otherwise see comments and Leica R photos above!
Feb 06, 2013 at 09:39 PM
p.152 #7Leica R Series Lenses
Just wanted to let you folks know that today I listed my R lenses: 100/4 Macro, 135/2.8, 28-70 (latest model) and 2X extender on the FM B&S, if anyone is interested.
Feb 07, 2013 at 01:03 AM
p.152 #8Leica R Series Lenses
An update on the ninja star issue with the AE 180 discussed previously (see below): I just received the lens (S/N 3897xxx), and there is absolutely no sign of the issue. I'll post an image later. My guess is that the design of the aperture assembly changed in the year 2000 (beginning with S/N 3896xxx)...
Almass wrote:
I was just able to purchase an APO-ELMARIT 180/2.8 with S/N 389xxxx at a good price. Below an image of the aperture of this lens at f/8. Looks good to me! Many thanks again for all your help!
Edit: I have the whole series from f/4 through f/11. They all look good. Die, Ninja!
Best,
RonI just looked up my lens sitting on my lap and it is with a S/N 389xxxx.
This is a version 1 serial number.
I also have another APO 180/2.8 which is version 2 but it is in my other house location.
I double checked E.Putts numbers and they list the S/N389xxxx as 1st version as well which is exactly like the one I have.
To cut a long story short, you should have clearly a Ninja aperture and I appreciate you trust your seller but he might have erred on the left side.
According to my modest powers of observations, the shot claimed at...Show more →
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Ron Pfister wrote
Hi all,I was just able to purchase an APO-ELMARIT 180/2.8 with S/N 389xxxx at a good price. Below an image of the aperture of this lens at f/8. Looks good to me! Many thanks again for all your help!
Edit: I have the whole series from f/4 through f/11. They all look good. Die, Ninja!
Best,
Ron
This is a version 1 serial number.
I also have another APO 180/2.8 which is version 2 but it is in my other house location.
I double checked E.Putts numbers and they list the S/N389xxxx as 1st version as well which is exactly like the one I have.
To cut a long story short, you should have clearly a Ninja aperture and I appreciate you trust your seller but he might have erred on the left side.
According to my modest powers of observations, the shot claimed at...Show more →
Feb 07, 2013 at 04:22 AM
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p.152 #9Leica R Series Lenses
Ron Pfister wrote:
An update on the ninja star issue with the AE 180 discussed previously (see below): I just received the lens (S/N 3897xxx), and there is absolutely no sign of the issue. I'll post an image later. My guess is that the design of the aperture assembly changed in the year 2000 (beginning with S/N 3896xxx)...
I was just able to purchase an APO-ELMARIT 180/2.8 with S/N 389xxxx at a good price. Below an image of the aperture of this lens at f/8. Looks good to me! Many thanks again for all your help!
Edit: I have the whole series from f/4 through f/11. They all look good. Die, Ninja!
Best,
RonI just looked up my lens sitting on my lap and it is with a S/N 389xxxx.
This is a version 1 serial number.
I also have another APO 180/2.8 which is version 2 but it is in my other house location.
I double checked E.Putts numbers and they list the S/N389xxxx as 1st version as well which is exactly like the one I have.
To cut a long story short, you should have clearly a Ninja aperture and I appreciate you trust your seller but he might have erred on the left side.
According to my modest powers of observations, the shot claimed at f4 is an f5.6 and the shot claimed at f11 is an f16.
The wall thickness between the glass and the body seems to be thicker than it should be.
Of course, I might be wrong and I hope I am wrong.
I think we better keep the jury out until you get the lens and do your own tests and publish here.
You are mega-lucky man, Ron
Win from this thread have with s/n 38972xx and with terrible ninja!
R80 WO
Edited by Guest on Feb 07, 2013 at 07:54 AM · View previous versions
An update on the ninja star issue with the AE 180 discussed previously (see below): I just received the lens (S/N 3897xxx), and there is absolutely no sign of the issue. I'll post an image later. My guess is that the design of the aperture assembly changed in the year 2000 (beginning with S/N 3896xxx)...
Almass wrote
Ron Pfister wrote
Hi all,I was just able to purchase an APO-ELMARIT 180/2.8 with S/N 389xxxx at a good price. Below an image of the aperture of this lens at f/8. Looks good to me! Many thanks again for all your help!
Edit: I have the whole series from f/4 through f/11. They all look good. Die, Ninja!
Best,
Ron
This is a version 1 serial number.
I also have another APO 180/2.8 which is version 2 but it is in my other house location.
I double checked E.Putts numbers and they list the S/N389xxxx as 1st version as well which is exactly like the one I have.
To cut a long story short, you should have clearly a Ninja aperture and I appreciate you trust your seller but he might have erred on the left side.
According to my modest powers of observations, the shot claimed at f4 is an f5.6 and the shot claimed at f11 is an f16.
The wall thickness between the glass and the body seems to be thicker than it should be.
Of course, I might be wrong and I hope I am wrong.
I think we better keep the jury out until you get the lens and do your own tests and publish here.
You are mega-lucky man, Ron
Win from this thread have with s/n 38972xx and with terrible ninja!
R80 WO
Edited by Guest on Feb 07, 2013 at 07:54 AM · View previous versions
Feb 07, 2013 at 04:46 AM
p.152 #10Leica R Series Lenses
All this talk of Summicrons...
Leica Summicron-R 180/2.0.
Leica Summicron-R 180/2.0.
Feb 07, 2013 at 06:23 AM
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p.152 #11Leica R Series Lenses
Worldinlens wrote:
You are mega-lucky man, Ron
Win from this thread have with s/n 3897234 and with terrible ninja!
I guess this means that my theory about year ≥2000 and S/N ≥3896xxx is wrong. My AE 180 is definitely P/N 11273 (engraved on the barrel), has S/N 38974xx and was made in Germany (also engraved). Could it be that lenses made in Canada used a different aperture assembly?
Worldinlens wrote:
R80 WO
Great image - wonderful bokeh!
Edited on Feb 07, 2013 at 06:45 AM · View previous versions
You are mega-lucky man, Ron
Win from this thread have with s/n 3897234 and with terrible ninja!
I guess this means that my theory about year ≥2000 and S/N ≥3896xxx is wrong. My AE 180 is definitely P/N 11273 (engraved on the barrel), has S/N 38974xx and was made in Germany (also engraved). Could it be that lenses made in Canada used a different aperture assembly?
Worldinlens wrote:
R80 WO
Great image - wonderful bokeh!
Edited on Feb 07, 2013 at 06:45 AM · View previous versions
Feb 07, 2013 at 06:43 AM
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p.152 #12Leica R Series Lenses
JohnJ wrote:
All this talk of Summicrons...
Leica Summicron-R 180/2.0.
http://photocornucopia.com/images/Lenses/Leica/R180Cron/IMG_7808_1_pc_1000.jpg
Carsten, my friend, were are you? )))))
All this talk of Summicrons...
Leica Summicron-R 180/2.0.
http://photocornucopia.com/images/Lenses/Leica/R180Cron/IMG_7808_1_pc_1000.jpg
Carsten, my friend, were are you? )))))
Feb 07, 2013 at 06:44 AM
p.152 #13Leica R Series Lenses
Today: out drinking beer with a couple of friends 
Feb 07, 2013 at 07:10 AM
p.152 #14Leica R Series Lenses
Almass wrote:
According to my modest powers of observations, the shot claimed at f4 is an f5.6 and the shot claimed at f11 is an f16.
The wall thickness between the glass and the body seems to be thicker than it should be.
Of course, I might be wrong and I hope I am wrong.
I think we better keep the jury out until you get the lens and do your own tests and publish here.
The images I posted definitely represent f/4 through f/11 of the lens I received. I think what looks like a large wall thickness at the very front of the lens are actually baffles within the lens. The images I posted were taken with a 135mm lens and flash, and the DOF appears very shallow. As a result, you can't see a clear representation of what the front of the lens looks like. The images were definitely the real deal, though.
All said and done, I'm very happy to have found this particular sample, and I'm very grateful to all of you for your valued input and advice!
Best,
Ron
According to my modest powers of observations, the shot claimed at f4 is an f5.6 and the shot claimed at f11 is an f16.
The wall thickness between the glass and the body seems to be thicker than it should be.
Of course, I might be wrong and I hope I am wrong.
I think we better keep the jury out until you get the lens and do your own tests and publish here.
The images I posted definitely represent f/4 through f/11 of the lens I received. I think what looks like a large wall thickness at the very front of the lens are actually baffles within the lens. The images I posted were taken with a 135mm lens and flash, and the DOF appears very shallow. As a result, you can't see a clear representation of what the front of the lens looks like. The images were definitely the real deal, though.
All said and done, I'm very happy to have found this particular sample, and I'm very grateful to all of you for your valued input and advice!
Best,
Ron
Feb 07, 2013 at 07:17 AM
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carstenw wrote:
Today: out drinking beer with a couple of friends
I just thought it was a good excuse to post it a couple of masterpieces from your 180/2
Have a nice evening
Today: out drinking beer with a couple of friends
I just thought it was a good excuse to post it a couple of masterpieces from your 180/2
Have a nice evening
Feb 07, 2013 at 07:28 AM
p.152 #17Leica R Series Lenses
JohnJ wrote:
All this talk of Summicrons...
Leica Summicron-R 180/2.0.
http://photocornucopia.com/images/Lenses/Leica/R180Cron/IMG_7808_1_pc_1000.jpg
http://photocornucopia.com/images/Lenses/Leica/R180Cron/IMG_7782_1_pc_1000.jpg
Boy, is that a big 35mm format 180mm lens.
Rich
All this talk of Summicrons...
Leica Summicron-R 180/2.0.
http://photocornucopia.com/images/Lenses/Leica/R180Cron/IMG_7808_1_pc_1000.jpg
http://photocornucopia.com/images/Lenses/Leica/R180Cron/IMG_7782_1_pc_1000.jpg
Boy, is that a big 35mm format 180mm lens.
Rich
Feb 07, 2013 at 09:08 AM
p.152 #19Leica R Series Lenses
naturephoto1 wrote:
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Boy, is that a big 35mm format 180mm lens.
Rich
It's a walk-around-lens, for Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Boy, is that a big 35mm format 180mm lens.
Rich
It's a walk-around-lens, for Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Feb 07, 2013 at 08:24 PM
p.152 #20Leica R Series Lenses
The optical equivalent of a sawed-off shotgun.
Feb 08, 2013 at 02:52 AM