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p.45 #1C/Y Zeiss Image Post
carstenw wrote:
Wilhelm, FM search does not work. To search for something, go to Google and type something like:
site:fredmiranda.com zeiss contax 85 85mm
FM search does work if you know how to operate it. Google search isn't perfect either for searching on FM.
Wilhelm, FM search does not work. To search for something, go to Google and type something like:
site:fredmiranda.com zeiss contax 85 85mm
FM search does work if you know how to operate it. Google search isn't perfect either for searching on FM.
Feb 24, 2012 at 05:30 AM
p.45 #2C/Y Zeiss Image Post
Thanks all for the help - but the thread still eludes me :-S
Helimat: what is an MMG-version?
Helimat: what is an MMG-version?
Feb 24, 2012 at 06:08 AM
p.45 #3C/Y Zeiss Image Post
@wfrank: MM Germany. You know about the AE and MM versions? There are AE and MM lenses made in Germany and Japan, so AEG/AEJ/MMG/MMJ are used to indicate this (not by Zeiss themselves, they just use AE and MM to indicate the type).
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Feb 24, 2012 at 06:52 AM
p.45 #4C/Y Zeiss Image Post
Aham, no I dont I'm afraid. Is there a significant difference between the four? I do not know which version I am offered - can you tell by some marking somewhere?
Feb 24, 2012 at 07:00 AM
p.45 #5C/Y Zeiss Image Post
You can see the difference between AE and MM here: http://www.pebbleplace.com/Personal/Contax_db_Comments.html
I'm surprised that the page doesn't explain this, but MM stands for Multi Mode, meaning that the camera can set the aperture on its own when the camera is in shutter speed priority mode. AE lenses don't support this because they don't have the MM tab that communicates the biggest aperture to the camera. This is only relevant when using the lenses on Contax and Yashica camera bodies though.
A couple of the MM lenses were optically improved over the AE versions. I believe the only ones confirmed by Zeiss to have these improvements were the 25/2.8, 28/2.8 and 135/2.8. There are rumours that the 85/1.4 MMG is the best performing version; no idea if it's true. I think that the AE version was slightly less sharp than the MM and ZE in a comparison. Edit: found the one I remembered: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1009161/39#9952859 (some more comments about the lens further up on that page too)
I'm surprised that the page doesn't explain this, but MM stands for Multi Mode, meaning that the camera can set the aperture on its own when the camera is in shutter speed priority mode. AE lenses don't support this because they don't have the MM tab that communicates the biggest aperture to the camera. This is only relevant when using the lenses on Contax and Yashica camera bodies though.
A couple of the MM lenses were optically improved over the AE versions. I believe the only ones confirmed by Zeiss to have these improvements were the 25/2.8, 28/2.8 and 135/2.8. There are rumours that the 85/1.4 MMG is the best performing version; no idea if it's true. I think that the AE version was slightly less sharp than the MM and ZE in a comparison. Edit: found the one I remembered: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1009161/39#9952859 (some more comments about the lens further up on that page too)
Feb 24, 2012 at 07:17 AM
p.45 #6C/Y Zeiss Image Post
Also note that only the MM lenses can be Leitaxed. The mounts are slightly different.
Feb 24, 2012 at 07:47 AM
p.45 #7C/Y Zeiss Image Post
carstenw wrote:
Also note that only the MM lenses can be Leitaxed. The mounts are slightly different.
Not true for the Leitax mounts for Canon.
Also note that only the MM lenses can be Leitaxed. The mounts are slightly different.
Not true for the Leitax mounts for Canon.
Feb 24, 2012 at 10:38 AM
p.45 #8C/Y Zeiss Image Post
Thanks again guys. The lenses seem pretty equal to me so any version will do if the price is right.
Feb 24, 2012 at 10:52 AM
p.45 #9C/Y Zeiss Image Post
first post - 5DII + 35-70
http://jjcpa.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v44/p125345617-5.jpg
http://jjcpa.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v44/p125345617-5.jpg
Feb 24, 2012 at 06:35 PM
p.45 #11C/Y Zeiss Image Post
AhamB wrote:
... MM stands for Multi Mode, meaning that the camera can set the aperture on its own when the camera is in shutter speed priority mode. AE lenses don't support this because they don't have the MM tab that communicates the biggest aperture to the camera.
For a lens to support MultiMode, its stop-down lever must move proportionally to the taking aperture. After the 159MM was released in 1985, CZ lenses with this property were considered MM (green aperture marking, MM tab on the mount). This tab is detected by a switch at 4 o'clock on MM camera mounts, and you can hold this switch with your fingernail to get instant MM capability from your AE lenses.
Meanwhile, biggest aperture of a mounted lens is sensed by a moving lever at 12 o'clock on any Contax body (MM or not): this is necessary to perform open-aperture metering.
... MM stands for Multi Mode, meaning that the camera can set the aperture on its own when the camera is in shutter speed priority mode. AE lenses don't support this because they don't have the MM tab that communicates the biggest aperture to the camera.
For a lens to support MultiMode, its stop-down lever must move proportionally to the taking aperture. After the 159MM was released in 1985, CZ lenses with this property were considered MM (green aperture marking, MM tab on the mount). This tab is detected by a switch at 4 o'clock on MM camera mounts, and you can hold this switch with your fingernail to get instant MM capability from your AE lenses.
Meanwhile, biggest aperture of a mounted lens is sensed by a moving lever at 12 o'clock on any Contax body (MM or not): this is necessary to perform open-aperture metering.Feb 25, 2012 at 12:52 AM
p.45 #13C/Y Zeiss Image Post
HI Johann,
Don't know why the flower seems to glow. Taken during mid-day harsh sun. The lens is quite sharp! Nice colors too.
Don't know why the flower seems to glow. Taken during mid-day harsh sun. The lens is quite sharp! Nice colors too.
Feb 25, 2012 at 10:35 AM
p.45 #14C/Y Zeiss Image Post
cross post. Just received from Jotdeh a 35-70.. Having fun with macro mode..
@3.4 hand held Iso 200 Sony NEX-5N
contax35-70 by AustinIsWeird, on Flickr
@3.4 hand held Iso 200 Sony NEX-5N
contax35-70 by AustinIsWeird, on Flickr
Feb 29, 2012 at 09:17 PM
p.45 #15C/Y Zeiss Image Post
35-70 Macro mode on the 5D
http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Nature/Wildlife/i-4xdgwss/0/XL/Grasshopper-XL.jpg
JayT
http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Nature/Wildlife/i-4xdgwss/0/XL/Grasshopper-XL.jpg
JayT
Feb 29, 2012 at 11:54 PM
p.45 #16C/Y Zeiss Image Post
Sweet shots from the 5N Dale!
What adapter are you using for the Contax?
Thanks,
JayT
What adapter are you using for the Contax?
Thanks,
JayT
Mar 01, 2012 at 12:01 AM
p.45 #17C/Y Zeiss Image Post
Thanks! The Contax is the C/Y, so I use a rainbow imaging adapter. Quite generic. a little play, but not too bad. I use with the 50/1.7 planar as well.
Mar 01, 2012 at 10:41 AM
p.45 #18C/Y Zeiss Image Post
First image post ever! But after looking at 40 pages of this thread, i have picked up a 50mm f1.4 and loving it! Now i want to buy an 85 1.4 and 135 2.8 
Mar 02, 2012 at 12:04 AM
p.45 #19C/Y Zeiss Image Post
Glad to see you enjoying the 35-70 Dale! Really starting to miss it, even when I don't have a camera to shoot with right now... I can see myself picking up another one.
How do you find the handling on Nex 5N?
How do you find the handling on Nex 5N?
Mar 02, 2012 at 07:20 AM
p.45 #20C/Y Zeiss Image Post
BryantFC wrote:
First image post ever! But after looking at 40 pages of this thread, i have picked up a 50mm f1.4 and loving it! Now i want to buy an 85 1.4 and 135 2.8
Love the shot of the tree trunk! I love my 50/1.4 too but haven't had much opportunities to use it yet.
First image post ever! But after looking at 40 pages of this thread, i have picked up a 50mm f1.4 and loving it! Now i want to buy an 85 1.4 and 135 2.8
Love the shot of the tree trunk! I love my 50/1.4 too but haven't had much opportunities to use it yet.
Mar 02, 2012 at 08:41 AM