alanwarp wrote:
23.976 fps is more easily converted to NTSC 29.97 fps. I believe 23.976 fps is a very common frame rate, as "the look" is the same as 24.0 fps, but the math works out better for converting to NTSC (standard def. TV format).
Alan
wouldn't the point of using 24fps mode be to match to movie projection, mix in with 24fps stuff, and 24fps input on TVs?
Great for videographers.... Now, for us still shooters, where is the firmware update the shortens the shutter lag and mirror black out time to match that of the 1Ds?
skibum5 wrote:
i get that, i just didn't get the weird value for 24fps since the movie standard i believe is 24.000000000000fps
24fps film needs telecine or conversions (pulldowns etc.) when transferred to NTSC video. 23.976 is ready to go without conversion. When broadcast cameras shoot 24p, they're actually shooting 23.976.
Sal Baker wrote:
24fps film needs telecine or conversions (pulldowns etc.) when transferred to NTSC video. 23.976 is ready to go without conversion. When broadcast cameras shoot 24p, they're actually shooting 23.976.
Sal
I think they actually run the 24 fps movie at 23.976, then they still have to do 3:2 pulldown for NTSC conversion, but the numbers work out well then...
And yes, this is why the cameras just do 23.976 instead...
The new firmware update has already been pulled due to bugs. Many now have dead cameras and have to send them back to Canon for previous FW install. Canon says new updated version of the 5DII FW will be posted soon.
skibum5 wrote:
i get that, i just didn't get the weird value for 24fps since the movie standard i believe is 24.000000000000fps
In the 1950's when NTSC went colour they had to reduce the frame rate by the factor 1000/1001 to avoid interference between chroma and sound channels, this is why the NTSC is now 29.97 and when you do 3:2 pulldown you then end up with 23.97. These are actually the industry standards, not 24 and 30.
Sal Baker wrote:
The new firmware update has already been pulled due to bugs. Many now have dead cameras and have to send them back to Canon for previous FW install. Canon says new updated version of the 5DII FW will be posted soon.
Wow...you are right! Just double-checked Canon's website and found this:
Important Update Information for
Firmware Update Version 2.0.3
Thank you for using Canon products.
We have learned that some users of the Canon EOS 5D Mark II digital SLR camera are experiencing issues with Firmware Update Version 2.0.3.
We are working on a new firmware update to address these phenomena, which will be available soon. If you have not registered your EOS 5D Mark II, please register so we will be able to notify you via email when future firmware updates become available for download.
Canon always strives to provide the highest quality products to our customers. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience these phenomena may have caused. We appreciate your kind patronage and support.
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Obviously a new release is planned due to a severe bug in the audio recording in the custom modes C1-C3.
I was just getting around to installing the firmware on my 2 bodies a few minutes ago when I saw the notice on Canon's site... Glad a waited. I guess we'll see what the update brings.
Sal Baker wrote:
The new firmware update has already been pulled due to bugs. Many now have dead cameras and have to send them back to Canon for previous FW install. Canon says new updated version of the 5DII FW will be posted soon.
Dammit - I updated both my 5D2's. They seem to work OK. I'm not sure that avoiding C modes for video isn't a price I would pay for having 24 and 25 fps though.
Personally, I'd rather have the ability to change sound recording levels than C mode functions. I'll keep the new firmware until the revised one comes out. I don't want to go backwards.
Sal Baker wrote:
The new firmware update has already been pulled due to bugs. Many now have dead cameras and have to send them back to Canon for previous FW install. Canon says new updated version of the 5DII FW will be posted soon.
